Berkeley "liberals" contra free speech

[Elixir]

An inability to do that reflects the extremist nature of their views.

On the contrary. The unwillingness of the Left to oppose extremism from the Left or even extremism from organizations like "Nation of Islam" (which are right-wing but not opposed by the Left because of their racial identity) shows the moral bankruptcy of the modern Left.

Call the WAaaaaambulance... I don't see your right-winger buddies protesting alt-right nonsense, so it it is utterly hypocritical to expect the reverse,

 

[Derec]

As usual, you miss the point. There is no reason to name the student.

Perhaps not. On the other hand, I do not think there is any reason not to name him. When I first read that he shamed a transgender student I thought he took a) an actual transgender student and b) picked her at random to shame her. But that is not what happened.

Just like there is no reason to question whether the student looks like the appropriate gender because neither is germane to the issue of who should be allowed in a gender-specific locker room or rest room.

What should be go by? If not by genitals, and not by the way the person presents itself, should we just go by whatever a person says? If we are going to have gender-segregated locker rooms and saunas, then surely there needs to be some objective criterion. Like if one presents as female. Like these two ladies.

 

[ronburgundy]

Talking about a policy issue isn't the same as what he did, which is show a pic of the person for the sole purpose of publicly humilating them and mocking their appearance and gender identify. No legitimate discussion of the politics related to that restroom issue would even require mentioning any individuals name, let alone what he did.

Again, he placed himself in the public sphere already. Note that Milo used a screen grab from the same news report I did. He did not violate his privacy or anything.

And I think the way Kramer looks does have a bearing. If we separate locker rooms by gender, then there must be reasonable standards as to who should qualify as a man or woman. Putting on a dress on and adding an "e" to the end of your name does not a woman make.

Even with Freddie's mustache, they look much more like women than Kramer, especially Roger Taylor, lol.

Note that locker rooms are more difficult that restrooms, where you have stalls and some privacy.

So whether Milo personally wants to fuck someone is relevant to what facility they should be allowed to use?
His argument means that unattractive women that most hetero men don't want to fuck should not be allowed to use the women's restroom. There was no serious argument there. It was purely an attempt to publicly humiliate.

Should I be able to go your school and use their equipment to put up a public domain pic of you and under the guise of a discussion about rape laws, say "Geez, how fugly. If you had that face you might also constantly argue for legalizing rape."

 

[laughing dog]

Perhaps not. On the other hand, I do not think there is any reason not to name him.

And the benefit from the extra effort of naming this student is....?

When I first read that he shamed a transgender student I thought he took a) an actual transgender student and b) picked her at random to shame her. But that is not what happened.

How do you know?

What should be go by? If not by genitals, and not by the way the person presents itself, should we just go by whatever a person says? If we are going to have gender-segregated locker rooms and saunas, then surely there needs to be some objective criterion. Like if one presents as female. Like these two ladies.

You confuse the issue of who should be permitted into a gender-specific area with the problem of creating identification protocols and their enforcement. The appearance of a person is not relevant to theformer but it may be relevant to the latter.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

Why couldn't she use the restroom?

She?

This is supposed to be an argument? And why do you care where someone wants to drop a load?

 

[Derec]

This is supposed to be an argument?

Words have meanings, even pronouns.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

This is supposed to be an argument?

Words have meanings, even pronouns.

Could you use some? Maybe tell me why she can't use the ladies restroom?

 

[ronburgundy]

I'm starting to warm to Milo.

Not at all surprising. In case you haven't already, you should read Mein Kampf and subscribe the the The Crusader to get up to speed and be able to chat with his fellow fans during intermission.

Do you ever stop to wonder why people that have no interest in Milo now have their curiosity piqued ?

There is nothing mysterious about some people being drawn to hateful tribalism that rationalizes oppressive violence towards others. The Milo and Trump phenomena are the same and nothing new.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

There is nothing mysterious about some people being drawn to hateful tribalism that rationalizes oppressive violence towards others. The Milo and Trump phenomena are the same and nothing new.

There's also no mystery to "this guy is in the news, I wonder who is, I guess I'll read up on him."

 

[TSwizzle]

Not at all surprising. In case you haven't already, you should read Mein Kampf and subscribe the the The Crusader to get up to speed and be able to chat with his fellow fans during intermission.

There is nothing mysterious about some people being drawn to hateful tribalism that rationalizes oppressive violence towards others. The Milo and Trump phenomena are the same and nothing new.

#Go_Team_Milo !!

 

[Trausti]

 

[Sarpedon]

Its amusing to see certain people quake in their boots when 'generation snowflake' shows they are perfectly capable of violence. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: there is nothing more pointless and boring than listening to old people complain about young people. I keep repeating that to myself as I get old.

It has been the narrative that young people are passive, spoiled, and not as good as the generation before it for generations. And every time, the oldsters are surprised and frightened when the young people show their fangs. First rule of lying, have a good memory. Second rule, never believe your own lies.

 

[Trausti]

Its amusing to see certain people quake in their boots when 'generation snowflake' shows they are perfectly capable of violence. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: there is nothing more pointless and boring than listening to old people complain about young people. I keep repeating that to myself as I get old.

It has been the narrative that young people are passive, spoiled, and not as good as the generation before it for generations. And every time, the oldsters are surprised and frightened when the young people show their fangs. First rule of lying, have a good memory. Second rule, never believe your own lies.

Yeah. Like when those old folks in China got scared of the young folks in the Red Guards. Get with the program, grandpa! Or else!

 

[dismal]

Its amusing to see certain people quake in their boots when 'generation snowflake' shows they are perfectly capable of violence. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: there is nothing more pointless and boring than listening to old people complain about young people. I keep repeating that to myself as I get old.

It has been the narrative that young people are passive, spoiled, and not as good as the generation before it for generations. And every time, the oldsters are surprised and frightened when the young people show their fangs. First rule of lying, have a good memory. Second rule, never believe your own lies.

People are "quaking in their boots"? You actually think that?

Wow. You are pretty out of touch.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

Its amusing to see certain people quake in their boots when 'generation snowflake' shows they are perfectly capable of violence. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: there is nothing more pointless and boring than listening to old people complain about young people. I keep repeating that to myself as I get old.

It has been the narrative that young people are passive, spoiled, and not as good as the generation before it for generations. And every time, the oldsters are surprised and frightened when the young people show their fangs. First rule of lying, have a good memory. Second rule, never believe your own lies.

People are "quaking in their boots"? You actually think that?

Wow. You are pretty out of touch.

"Sharting their shorts" is more literate.

 

[TSwizzle]

Its amusing to see certain people quake in their boots when 'generation snowflake' shows they are perfectly capable of violence.

I was informed that the violence was perpetrated by about 150 outsiders that had latched on to the protest. "Generation snowflake" are too busy fighting about which restroom is appropriate for the "non binary' and looking for their safe space. They would shit in their pants in a real old school demo.

 

[Trausti]

Its amusing to see certain people quake in their boots when 'generation snowflake' shows they are perfectly capable of violence.

I was informed that the violence was perpetrated by about 150 outsiders that had latched on to the protest. "Generation snowflake" are too busy fighting about which restroom is appropriate for the "non binary' and looking for their safe space. They would shit in their pants in a real old school demo.

No kidding.

 

[PyramidHead]

[stupid meme that misunderstands the meaning of 'free speech']

Which Berkeley students rioted?

 

[Nice Squirrel]

What is the right-wing's fascination with bathrooms? And transgender people?

Anyway Snowflake-in-chief Donald Trump threatens to take away all funding from Berkeley.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-california-ucberkeley-protests-idUSKBN15H1R5

 

[Trausti]

[stupid meme that misunderstands the meaning of 'free speech']

Which Berkeley students rioted?

If the Antifa doucebags didn't cover their faces then we'd know them.