So another "chemical" attack in Syria?

[barbos]

I think you'd agree that's a gross oversimplification of the facts.

At the risk of evoking trump, by this logic Putin is no more a genocidal madman than any of our presidents in the last 60-80 years.

There is a difference other than degrees. Our recent historical complicity is a result from tensions between a Democrat President and a Republican Congress whose stated mission was to keep the President from doing anything. Ever. Even if it was what they wanted. Putin's complicity has been continuously and autocratically dictated.

What about not so recent historical complicity? Iran-Contras era, then Iran itself, then Saddam who was gassing people left and right using West provided chemical weapons, then coups in Iran, then coups in the rest of the world.

 

[Elixir]

There is a difference other than degrees. Our recent historical complicity is a result from tensions between a Democrat President and a Republican Congress whose stated mission was to keep the President from doing anything. Ever. Even if it was what they wanted. Putin's complicity has been continuously and autocratically dictated.

What about not so recent historical complicity?

Doesn't bear at all on Putin's corruption and murderous activities.
Are you happy with your oligarchy?

 

[Horatio Parker]

There is a difference other than degrees. Our recent historical complicity is a result from tensions between a Democrat President and a Republican Congress whose stated mission was to keep the President from doing anything. Ever. Even if it was what they wanted. Putin's complicity has been continuously and autocratically dictated.

What about not so recent historical complicity? Iran-Contras era, then Iran itself, then Saddam who was gassing people left and right using West provided chemical weapons, then coups in Iran, then coups in the rest of the world.

Might as well go back to '56 when we put the Shah in.

 

[barbos]

What about not so recent historical complicity?

Doesn't bear at all on Putin's corruption and murderous activities.
Are you happy with your oligarchy?

Still beating your wife?

 

[barbos]

What about not so recent historical complicity? Iran-Contras era, then Iran itself, then Saddam who was gassing people left and right using West provided chemical weapons, then coups in Iran, then coups in the rest of the world.

Might as well go back to '56 when we put the Shah in.

US messed up Iran, then when they had their islamic revolution and you started supporting Saddam in order to screw Iran, it failed and Saddam was no use and went rogue, you kicked him out, and messed up Iraq......

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Might as well go back to '56 when we put the Shah in.

US messed up Iran, then when they had their islamic revolution and you started supporting Saddam in order to screw Iran, it failed and Saddam was no use and went rogue, you kicked him out, and messed up Iraq......

Yeah, that didn't go well. American involvement in the Middle East has been about as successful as European involvement. Though the first Gulf War went well. We'll always have that. In general, the US has been in a war like state in the Middle East since Reagan. Periodic wars and bombings here and there. Not much went well. I'm surprised you didn't mention the black op CIA camps interrogating "terrorists" that the W Admin had in Syria.

And of course, the US isn't alone. The British, French, and Turks did a good job of fucking up the Middle East before we started fucking it up.

Regardless, what does this have to do with the Syrian President gassing his own citizens?

 

[barbos]

US messed up Iran, then when they had their islamic revolution and you started supporting Saddam in order to screw Iran, it failed and Saddam was no use and went rogue, you kicked him out, and messed up Iraq......

Yeah, that didn't go well. American involvement in the Middle East has been about as successful as European involvement. Though the first Gulf War went well.

Relatively well, It's still had a good deal flat out lies going into it.

We'll always have that. In general, the US has been in a war like state in the Middle East since Reagan. Periodic wars and bombings here and there. Not much went well. I'm surprised you didn't mention the black op CIA camps interrogating "terrorists" that the W Admin had in Syria.

And of course, the US isn't alone. The British, French, and Turks did a good job of fucking up the Middle East before we started fucking it up.

Regardless, what does this have to do with the Syrian President gassing his own citizens?

Nothing, because Syrian President most likely did not do it.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Yeah, that didn't go well. American involvement in the Middle East has been about as successful as European involvement. Though the first Gulf War went well.

Relatively well, It's still had a good deal flat out lies going into it.

We'll always have that. In general, the US has been in a war like state in the Middle East since Reagan. Periodic wars and bombings here and there. Not much went well. I'm surprised you didn't mention the black op CIA camps interrogating "terrorists" that the W Admin had in Syria.

And of course, the US isn't alone. The British, French, and Turks did a good job of fucking up the Middle East before we started fucking it up.

Regardless, what does this have to do with the Syrian President gassing his own citizens?

Nothing, because Syrian President most likely did not do it.

Oh that's right. The Russians say it was chemical weapons the rebels or ISIS had, but apparently never bothered to use while you say it was Qatari or Saudi Intelligence that planted the gases at the exact location of a bombing attack.

 

[barbos]

Relatively well, It's still had a good deal flat out lies going into it.

We'll always have that. In general, the US has been in a war like state in the Middle East since Reagan. Periodic wars and bombings here and there. Not much went well. I'm surprised you didn't mention the black op CIA camps interrogating "terrorists" that the W Admin had in Syria.

And of course, the US isn't alone. The British, French, and Turks did a good job of fucking up the Middle East before we started fucking it up.

Regardless, what does this have to do with the Syrian President gassing his own citizens?

Nothing, because Syrian President most likely did not do it.

Oh that's right. The Russians say it was chemical weapons the rebels or ISIS had, but apparently never bothered to use while you say it was Qatari or Saudi Intelligence that planted the gases at the exact location of a bombing attack.

Yes, Russians saw something was going on and suggested to bomb it, turned out that something did in fact go on and it was poison or something.
What's wrong with my theory? I already told you what is wrong with yours.

 

[Elixir]

What's wrong with my theory?

Your HYPOTHESIS assumes that anti-Asshat entities had chemical weapons, and fails to explain why they have never been used against Asshat's asshats.

Who is Barbie?

That's my nickname for you, since you are Putin's bitch.

 

[barbos]

Your HYPOTHESIS assumes that anti-Asshat entities had chemical weapons,

Not a big assumption. Saudi Arabia is perfectly capable of producing Sarin.

and fails to explain why they have never been used against Asshat's asshats.

They just did.

 

[Elixir]

Not a big assumption. Saudi Arabia is perfectly capable to producing Sarin.

Irrelevant. So is the US. But there is no evidence linking the US or SA to use of chemical weapons against Asshat.

and fails to explain why they have never been used against Asshat's asshats.

They just did.

Bullshit - you are indeed being Putin's bitch making such an assertion. Show me where any Syrian government troops were hurt in any gas attack.

 

[barbos]

Irrelevant. So is the US. But there is no evidence linking the US or SA to use of chemical weapons against Asshat.

How do you know? Did you have investigation?

and fails to explain why they have never been used against Asshat's asshats.

They just did.

Bullshit - you are indeed being Putin's bitch making such an assertion. Show me where any Syrian government troops were hurt in any gas attack.

Well, few jet planes were destroyed and few soldiers as well as a result of this latest gas attack.

 

[Elixir]

How do you know? Did you have investigation?

Do you have any evidence of the US or SA using chemical weapons against Asshat? You know, like the evidence that Asshat had chemical weapons that Putin promised to get rid of?
No.

Well, few jet planes were destroyed and few soldiers as well as a result of this latest gas attack.

Cry me a river... that was in REPRISAL for Putin/Asshat's chemical attack. Quit being Putin's bitch.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Quit being Putin's bitch.

Dude, that's out of line. The man has a job and this job has certain requirements. If you're being paid to spread Kremlin propaganda, you spread Kremlin propaganda. He may not like it, but it's an income and Putin and his oligarch cronies have sucked so many countless billions out of the Russian economy that you do what you have to do in order to make ends meet.

It's a shitty situation for someone to find himself in, but when it's the least bad of the available options, you have to take it.

 

[Elixir]

Quit being Putin's bitch.

Dude, that's out of line. The man has a job and this job has certain requirements. If you're being paid to spread Kremlin propaganda, you spread Kremlin propaganda. He may not like it, but it's an income and Putin and his oligarch cronies have sucked so many countless billions out of the Russian economy that you do what you have to do in order to make ends meet.

It's a shitty situation for someone to find himself in, but when it's the least bad of the available options, you have to take it.

Does Uncle Vlad do the performance reviews? If so, someone is likely due for a reprimand or demotion (if there is any position beneath "bitch").
I suppose you're right though - I should be more charitable, as people under autocrats often have little choice,

 

[funinspace]

Well, Spicey really stepped in some Dino sized caca.

Lesson to Repugs, you shouldn't talk about Hitler in addition to rape, before your words are tripple checked by sane people:
http://thehill.com/homenews/news/328306-spicer-even-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons

ERTISEMENT
The embarrassing gaffe from the White House podium threatened to derail the administration’s tough talk toward Russia over its role in Syrian civil war on the same day that secretary of State Rex Tillerson landed in Moscow for high-level meetings.
Spicer was trying to pressure Russia to abandon Syrian president Bashar Assad, whose Sarin gas attack last week provoked President Trump to retaliate with a missile strike on a Syrian airfield.

But Spicer’s Wednesday remarks quickly became the story on a slow news day with Congress out of town.

I wonder if Russia's leadership will figure out to mention the US complicity when Saddam Hussein used chemical weapons on Iran in their war killing thousands...

 

[whichphilosophy]

It's not impossible to manufacture Sarin. Aum Shinrikyo released Sarin into the Japanese underground system killing 12 people and injuring 50
It's possible to manufacture this at home.
No on is disputing that the chemical was SARIN so Turkey's 'discovery' that it was should not come as a shock.

So far there is no clear evidence who used this and no investigation into this has been convened. Meanwhile the UK and its British poodle are 'certain' the Syrian government did this. Perhaps it did or perhaps it did not.

So rather than speculate, an impartial investigation should proceed.

 

[whichphilosophy]

Do you have any evidence of the US or SA using chemical weapons against Asshat? You know, like the evidence that Asshat had chemical weapons that Putin promised to get rid of?
No.

Well, few jet planes were destroyed and few soldiers as well as a result of this latest gas attack.

Cry me a river... that was in REPRISAL for Putin/Asshat's chemical attack. Quit being Putin's bitch.

It was a simple asinine response to an incident where no one has established who perpetuated this attack. In fact this whole war is a chain reaction caused by US foreign policy.

 

[laughing dog]

Do you have any evidence of the US or SA using chemical weapons against Asshat? You know, like the evidence that Asshat had chemical weapons that Putin promised to get rid of?
No.



Cry me a river... that was in REPRISAL for Putin/Asshat's chemical attack. Quit being Putin's bitch.

It was a simple asinine response to an incident where no one has established who perpetuated this attack. In fact this whole war is a chain reaction caused by US foreign policy.

Where do you get this nonsense?