Woman threatens cops with a rock, is not killed.

[Jason Harvestdancer]

Guess the woman's race! Go on, I bet you'll never guess!

Please contain your white supremacist joy.

 

[Worldtraveller]

In that situation the rock is unlikely to be a lethal threat.

Completely unarmed (but black) individuals are seen as a threat, and often killed by cops, and you defend that action. So what's the difference? Hrmm....I wonder...

Completely unarmed individuals trying to take a cop's weapon are a lethal threat.

I don't think that: running away, lying prone on the ground, on their knees with their hands in the air, or a dozen other situations that are documented, are "trying to take a cop's weapon". But you go ahead and pick the one situation and apply that to everything. That's totally honest.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

You realize the ones that get shot are doing things like dropping big concrete blocks on soldiers?

I realize you will say anything to justify views. This https://www.timesofisrael.com/palestinian-teen-suspected-of-throwing-rocks-shot-by-idf-near-ramallah/ proves your claim wrong.

According to your many posts, the police are justified in killing anyone who is reasonable threat to their lives. We all know that a rock can be a lethal weapon. So why are you now saying this woman was not a reasonable threat?

Once again, a failure to understand how the situations differ.

Note that the rock thrower in this case was throwing rocks at vehicles. That adds the speed of the vehicle to the speed of the rock and thus makes it vastly more dangerous.

 

[laughing dog]

You realize the ones that get shot are doing things like dropping big concrete blocks on soldiers?

I realize you will say anything to justify views. This https://www.timesofisrael.com/palestinian-teen-suspected-of-throwing-rocks-shot-by-idf-near-ramallah/ proves your claim wrong.

According to your many posts, the police are justified in killing anyone who is reasonable threat to their lives. We all know that a rock can be a lethal weapon. So why are you now saying this woman was not a reasonable threat?

Once again, a failure to understand how the situations differ.

Your response is a perfect example. This teenager was not dropping concrete blocks onto soldiers - the teenage was not dropping concrete blocks. He was doing nothing of the kind.

These examples are not hard to find - http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/world/palestinian-shot-dead-after-throwing-rock-at-israeli-soldier-army/article/523980). Now if you defend that soldier, then clearly this officer in the OP was in mortal danger and should have blown that woman away. Why are you now saying this woman was not a reasonable threat?[/I]

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Completely unarmed individuals trying to take a cop's weapon are a lethal threat.

I don't think that: running away, lying prone on the ground, on their knees with their hands in the air, or a dozen other situations that are documented, are "trying to take a cop's weapon". But you go ahead and pick the one situation and apply that to everything. That's totally honest.

Most of the "unarmed" (note that this includes those with fake weapons and those with objects that are mistaken for weapons) people who got shot are very much responsible for getting shot.

 

[laughing dog]

Completely unarmed individuals trying to take a cop's weapon are a lethal threat.

I don't think that: running away, lying prone on the ground, on their knees with their hands in the air, or a dozen other situations that are documented, are "trying to take a cop's weapon". But you go ahead and pick the one situation and apply that to everything. That's totally honest.

Most of the "unarmed" (note that this includes those with fake weapons and those with objects that are mistaken for weapons) people who got shot are very much responsible for getting shot.

It is insane to hold the unarmed victims with objects that the police mistake for weapons responsible for their killings.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Most of the "unarmed" (note that this includes those with fake weapons and those with objects that are mistaken for weapons) people who got shot are very much responsible for getting shot.

It is insane to hold the unarmed victims with objects that the police mistake for weapons responsible for their killings.

When they are pretending the items are real weapons it's quite reasonable to hold them responsible.

 

[laughing dog]

Most of the "unarmed" (note that this includes those with fake weapons and those with objects that are mistaken for weapons) people who got shot are very much responsible for getting shot.

It is insane to hold the unarmed victims with objects that the police mistake for weapons responsible for their killings.

When they are pretending the items are real weapons it's quite reasonable to hold them responsible.

Not if they are in plain view nor when they are not pretending they are weapons.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

I think its clear that there is a bias against black people, especially in the USA, that they are more often seen as threats.

I also think its clear that there is a bias against men (as opposed to women), and they are more often seen as threats.

Now put a black man and white woman in contrast? Yeah. You've got a double bias at work there. Hardly news, is it?

 

[Angry Floof]

I think its clear that there is a bias against black people, especially in the USA, that they are more often seen as threats.

I also think its clear that there is a bias against men (as opposed to women), and they are more often seen as threats.

Now put a black man and white woman in contrast? Yeah. You've got a double bias at work there. Hardly news, is it?

Congrats, Captain Obvious. The fact that it's not news isn't doing anything to stop police from murdering unarmed black people, is it? That's the point here, not that someone's claiming it's news.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

When they are pretending the items are real weapons it's quite reasonable to hold them responsible.

Not if they are in plain view nor when they are not pretending they are weapons.

But how many cases are like that??

 

[laughing dog]

When they are pretending the items are real weapons it's quite reasonable to hold them responsible.

Not if they are in plain view nor when they are not pretending they are weapons.

But how many cases are like that??

More than enough of them and they are easy to find on the internet. Here are but a few examples found by Googling unarmed man shot by police:

The

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2018/11/23/milwaukee-crime-police-bodycam-video-details-shooting-unarmed-man/2091908002/

https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/national-international/Video-Shows-Chicago-Cop-Fatally-Shooting-Man-as-He-Climbs-Fence-489167811.html and
https://abcnews.go.com/US/police-officer-arrested-fatal-shooting-unarmed-man/story?id=56230904 and

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-texas-shooting/dallas-police-identify-officer-in-shooting-of-unarmed-man-in-his-own-apartment-idUSKCN1LP03H and

https://whyy.org/articles/witness-vineland-police-shot-and-killed-unarmed-black-man-like-he-wasnt-human/ and
https://whyy.org/articles/witness-vineland-police-shot-and-killed-unarmed-black-man-like-he-wasnt-human/ and
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/philly-cop-is-fired-for-fatally-shooting-unarmed-man-20181031.html.

 

[ruby sparks]

When they are pretending the items are real weapons it's quite reasonable to hold them responsible.

Not if they are in plain view nor when they are not pretending they are weapons.

But how many cases are like that??

Most aren't, according to you. And I'm sure you've checked. You always do.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

But how many cases are like that??

More than enough of them and they are easy to find on the internet. Here are but a few examples found by Googling unarmed man shot by police:

The

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2018/11/23/milwaukee-crime-police-bodycam-video-details-shooting-unarmed-man/2091908002/

In other words, don't make sudden movements towards a place of concealment when cops have guns pointed at you.

https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/national-international/Video-Shows-Chicago-Cop-Fatally-Shooting-Man-as-He-Climbs-Fence-489167811.html

A gun was found nearby.

and
https://abcnews.go.com/US/police-officer-arrested-fatal-shooting-unarmed-man/story?id=56230904 and

Note that the officer was charged.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-texas-shooting/dallas-police-identify-officer-in-shooting-of-unarmed-man-in-his-own-apartment-idUSKCN1LP03H and

Arrested for murder.

https://whyy.org/articles/witness-vineland-police-shot-and-killed-unarmed-black-man-like-he-wasnt-human/ and
https://whyy.org/articles/witness-vineland-police-shot-and-killed-unarmed-black-man-like-he-wasnt-human/ and

So utterly one-sided that the article is useless. Looking for the truth I find it was a suicide by cop in which he claimed he had a bomb. Thus, a simulated weapon.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/philly-cop-is-fired-for-fatally-shooting-unarmed-man-20181031.html.

He fled from the cops then wouldn't show his hand after he crashed. Sounds like a simulated weapon to me.

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But how many cases are like that??

Most aren't, according to you. And I'm sure you've checked. You always do.

It's been done by others and discussed on here. Over 90% of police shootings are clear to anyone but a BLM idiot.

 

[laughing dog]

In other words, don't make sudden movements towards a place of concealment when cops have guns pointed at you.

Irrelevant to your claim.

A gun was found nearby.

Irrelevant to your claim.

Note that the officer was charged.

Note - irrelevant to your claim,.

Arrested for murder.

Irrelevant to your claim.

So utterly one-sided that the article is useless. Looking for the truth I find it was a suicide by cop in which he claimed he had a bomb. Thus, a simulated weapon.

Claiming you have a weapon is not a simulated weapon (i.e. something that exists).

He fled from the cops then wouldn't show his hand after he crashed. Sounds like a simulated weapon to me.

He had nothing in his hand, so your observation is ridiculous.

But, I will give you credit - you are consistent in your willingness to literally make stuff up to justify your faith-based belief, just like a YECer.

But let's get back to the actual OP - why do you feel this woman was not credible threat when you think other people with rocks are credible threats?