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Note from the above-linked article that some bacteria have a generation time of just t5 minutes (!)

Guess what that means.
What does it mean? That everyone will get sick from that generation of bacteria if exposed? Are we all doomed? It’s true that antibiotics have saved so many, but if used incorrectly they stop working. Could too many vaccines produce unpredictable side-effects when overused? I’m just asking so don’t pounce on me, which is your MO. .

Peacegirl, you see, is just “asking questions.” :rolleyes: The usual mantra from the ill-informed or the deliberately deceitful. “Is the earth really not flat? I’m not saying it IS flat, but I’m just asking questions.” :rolleyes:
 
Note from the above-linked article that some bacteria have a generation time of just t5 minutes (!)

Guess what that means.
What does it mean? That everyone will get sick from that generation of bacteria if exposed? Are we all doomed? It’s true that antibiotics have saved so many, but if used incorrectly they stop working. Could too many vaccines produce unpredictable side-effects when overused? I’m just asking so don’t pounce on me, which is your MO. .

Peacegirl, you see, is just “asking questions.” :rolleyes: The usual mantra from the ill-informed or the deliberately deceitful. “Is the earth really not flat? I’m not saying it IS flat, but I’m just asking questions.” :rolleyes:
There is nothing wrong with questioning something. I hope you’re not relating this to the senses! 🤔
 
Do you believe in 7 years, they will be selected and be even more aggressive than the pandemic of 2020?
No. Pathogens tend to be selected for sub-lethality; A vector who dies stops spreading his germs.

You really should stop JAQing off, and learn at least some basic facts about disease, before holding forth with your thinly veiled and utterly absurd opinions.
 
I am not afraid to admit I don’t know, and there’s nothing wrong with that.
Yeah, there really is.

You don't know, but you nevertheless want public policy to conform to your ignorant desires.

There's a LOT wrong with that.

The correct course is either to admit you don't know and SHUT UP; Or to admit you don't know and GO AND LEARN.

Or both.
 
This may interest some. A lot can be learned from animal science.


More evil disinformation pretending to be compassionate questioning and concern. The grifters make far more money off of this disinformation than veterinarians ever make off of vaccines. If veterinarians just wanted money over pet health then they'd discourage lepto and Lymes vaccines. Treating diseases like that is very profitable if a vet could ignore the heart break of suffering or having to euthanize a pet because the owner can't afford hospitalization. The grifters are real sickos and I really feel bad for the people that fall for the scam.
 
Vaccines are still available for those who want them.
Vaccines are a community level protection.

How would you feel about optional DUI guidelines - you drive at less than 0.08 BAC if you want, but don't impose on other people's freedom of choice.

While we are at it, we can have speed limits that are only applicable "for those that want them".

This kind of libertarian horseshit doesn't stand a moment of rational thought. Though it seems that you take the position that you can opt out of rationality too.
These people are breathtakingly bad at math and basic logic.
 
I am not afraid to admit I don’t know, and there’s nothing wrong with that.
Yeah, there really is.

You don't know, but you nevertheless want public policy to conform to your ignorant desires.
Public policy can make recommendations, but they cannot punish people for not doing what they want done without there being serious consequences. That crosses a line from freedom (which my countriy stands for) to despotism.
There's a LOT wrong with that.

The correct course is either to admit you don't know and SHUT UP; Or to admit you don't know and GO AND LEARN.
You do the same. You’re not god the last time I checked, and you’re attitude sucks! 🫤
I will not SHUT UP!
 
I will not SHUT UP!

Of course you won’t. You have a compulsion to spread misinformation that will lead to the deaths of both children and adults. Does that give you a sense of power?
Huh? You are stretching it now. You keep using the blame game as if I’m the cause of horrible deaths by not doing what the government wants. This has not been close to proving. It’s a fear tactic. If I’m wrong I’ll change my mind but don’t bank on it! Bilby is full of himself. I can’t stomach his pride over nothing but hot air and a threatening warning! 😠
 
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I will not SHUT UP!

Of course you won’t. You have a compulsion to spread misinformation that will lead to the deaths of both children and adults. Does that give you a sense of power?
Huh? You are stretching it now. You keep using the blame game as if I’m the cause of horrible deaths by not doing what the government wants.

Actually what pood wrote was that "spread[ing] misinformation" leads to deaths. Read the post again: "You have a compulsion to spread misinformation that will lead to the deaths of both children and adults."
 

Study finds risk of serious blood clots up to six months after covid-19


Risk higher for patients with underlying conditions and more severe covid-19

A study from Sweden published by The BMJ today finds an increased risk of deep vein thrombosis (a blood clot in the leg) up to three months after covid-19 infection, pulmonary embolism (a blood clot in the lung) up to six months, and a bleeding event up to two months.

The findings also show a higher risk of events in patients with underlying conditions (comorbidities), patients with more severe covid-19, and during the first pandemic wave compared with the second and third waves.

The researchers say these results support measures to prevent thrombotic events (thromboprophylaxis), especially for high risk patients, and strengthen the importance of vaccination against covid-19.
 

Study finds risk of serious blood clots up to six months after covid-19


Risk higher for patients with underlying conditions and more severe covid-19

A study from Sweden published by The BMJ today finds an increased risk of deep vein thrombosis (a blood clot in the leg) up to three months after covid-19 infection, pulmonary embolism (a blood clot in the lung) up to six months, and a bleeding event up to two months.

The findings also show a higher risk of events in patients with underlying conditions (comorbidities), patients with more severe covid-19, and during the first pandemic wave compared with the second and third waves.

The researchers say these results support measures to prevent thrombotic events (thromboprophylaxis), especially for high risk patients, and strengthen the importance of vaccination against covid-19.
Let's compare notes, not throw out real-life testimonials from doctors, just because you don't like what they had to say.
 

Study finds risk of serious blood clots up to six months after covid-19


Risk higher for patients with underlying conditions and more severe covid-19

A study from Sweden published by The BMJ today finds an increased risk of deep vein thrombosis (a blood clot in the leg) up to three months after covid-19 infection, pulmonary embolism (a blood clot in the lung) up to six months, and a bleeding event up to two months.

The findings also show a higher risk of events in patients with underlying conditions (comorbidities), patients with more severe covid-19, and during the first pandemic wave compared with the second and third waves.

The researchers say these results support measures to prevent thrombotic events (thromboprophylaxis), especially for high risk patients, and strengthen the importance of vaccination against covid-19.
Let's compare notes, not throw out real-life testimonials from doctors, just because you don't like what they had to say.

I'm not throwing out testimonials. There are statistics: those say the blood clots are more correlated to covid than the vaccines. You were unaware so I let you know. Now you know. What will you do?
 
Blood clots surge



What if this is misinformation and you are spreading it? Do you think that would be proper for you to spread misinformation?

This was a live Senate hearing, allowing for both sides of the aisle to speak their minds. This has nothing to do with my spreading anything.


Republicans hold the majority and set the agenda. And there is a giant misinformed title on your video.
 
I read about this in Scientific American but they don't allow shared articles. I was happy to find the one I'm going to link below about some previously unknown long term benefits of vaccines.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/03/...e_code=1.b1A.akBI.EDBJEPystsMy&smid=url-share

Let’s be clear. The primary reason to be vaccinated against shingles is that two shots provide 90 percent protection against a painful, blistering disease that a third of Americans will suffer in their lifetimes, one that can cause lingering nerve pain and other nasty long-term consequences.

The most important reason for older adults to be vaccinated against the respiratory infection R.S.V. is that their risk of being hospitalized with it declines by almost 70 percent in the year they get the shot, and by nearly 60 percent over two years.

And the main reason to roll up a sleeve for an annual flu shot is that when people do get infected, it also reliably reduces the severity of illness, though its effectiveness varies by how well scientists have predicted which strain of influenza shows up.

But other reasons for older people to be vaccinated are also emerging. They are known, in doctor-speak, as off-target benefits, meaning that the shots do good things beyond preventing the diseases they were designed to avert.

The list of off-target benefits is lengthening as “the research has accumulated and accelerated over the last 10 years,” said Dr. William Schaffner, an infectious disease specialist at Vanderbilt University Medical Center.

Some of these protections have been established by years of data; others are the subjects of more recent research, and the payoff is not yet as clear. The R.S.V. vaccine, for example, became available only in 2023.

Still, the findings “are really very consistent,” said Dr. Stefania Maggi, a geriatrician and senior fellow at the Institute of Neuroscience at the National Research Council in Padua, Italy.

She is the lead author of a recent meta-analysis, published in the British journal Age and Ageing, that found reduced risks of dementia after vaccination for an array of diseases. Given those “downstream effects,” she said, vaccines “are key tools to promote healthy aging and prevent physical and cognitive decline.”

Yet too many older adults, whose weakening immune systems and high rates of chronic illness put them at higher risk of infectious disease, have not taken advantage of vaccination.

There is more information in the article, if anyone wishes to read it. It's not behind a paywall. Only a fool refuses to be vaccinated. This is one area where the government is protecting citizens against potentially deadly diseases and giving citizens potential other benefits. Vaccine deniers may not mean any harm, but they are victims of a vast amount of disinformation which causes potentially causes harm. What a tragedy.
 
Blood clots surge



What if this is misinformation and you are spreading it? Do you think that would be proper for you to spread misinformation?

This was a live Senate hearing, allowing for both sides of the aisle to speak their minds. This has nothing to do with my spreading anything.


Republicans hold the majority and set the agenda. And there is a giant misinformed title on your video.

I don't believe that's true. There were both sides there. Watch it, and you'll see for yourself.
 
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