Trump caught on a hot mic talking about groping women

[Elixir]

I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy of at least one Hillary Clinton fan.

Why? To negate the hypocrisy of millions of trumpsuckers?
Again, Trump sexually assaulted women and bragged about it. Hillary said mean things about Jennifer.
It takes some might deep dishonesty and/or ethical blindness to equivocate the two.
Trump has said mean things about numerous people, but let's let that go, right?
I am trying to show you how giving Trump a pass of every transgression on the level of what you accuse Hillary of, does not assign them both to the same moral/ethical stratum. Not that any trumpsuckers can find the honesty to admit that, but the facts are the facts.

 

[ZiprHead]

Will Wiley epic fail.

 

[Elixir]

Will Wiley epic fail.

Well yeah... the interesting part is how that failure totally escapes WW. Reminiscent of Trumples himself.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

It looks like the GOP is giving Trump until tonight. If he ... somehow ... manages to crush Clinton in the debate, there will still be a Trump campaign. If not, the GOP is going to pull all the resources from him and try to save down ballot candidates.

The problem with that is that Trump will not step aside and will spend the next month attacking the GOP even more than he attacks Clinton. His campaign managers will stop even giving a shit and trying to hold him back and it will just be a month long meltdown of epic proportions. Given that the risk of a Trump presidency has pretty much been set to zero, we can just spend that time laughing without any worries.

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

What a great, lasting insight into how Trump supporters view women.

Women who support Trump must be some kind of whores at heart. Men who support trump must see women as some kind of whores. Maybe it goes through religious and cultural and subconscious filters first but in the end women must be seen as something akin to sexual fodder in the minds of these folks. Behavior ultimately reveals all.

And there are obviously tens of millions of them.

Fascinating, but not surprising.

 

[SLD]

^^^ that

I'm trying to figure out what is so different about this one compared to the 6,546,982,174 previous disgusting revelations about this moron.

What are the conservative media outlets saying about it? Besides claiming Bill Clinton is worse, how are they spinning it?

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You casually discuss sexually assaulting women... grabbing their genitals without their permission?

I, for one, have never said anything nearly like this about women.

No. I've never assaulted or bragged about that, but I've said crude things I'd like to do to various women. And bragged about a few conquests. That's how I took his comments. My wife and daughter though have told me I'm wrong to defend the comments. Sigh.

Have any women come forward and claimed he groped them without permission? I know there's a lawsuit from the girl who claims complete rape, but I was wondering about the claims of grabbing them by the pussy.

SLD

 

[Elixir]

It looks like the GOP is giving Trump until tonight. If he ... somehow ... manages to crush Clinton in the debate, there will still be a Trump campaign. If not, the GOP is going to pull all the resources from him and try to save down ballot candidates.

The problem with that is that Trump will not step aside and will spend the next month attacking the GOP even more than he attacks Clinton. His campaign managers will stop even giving a shit and trying to hold him back and it will just be a month long meltdown of epic proportions. Given that the risk of a Trump presidency has pretty much been set to zero, we can just spend that time laughing without any worries.

Yup.

 

[ZiprHead]

Have any women come forward and claimed he groped them without permission? I know there's a lawsuit from the girl who claims complete rape, but I was wondering about the claims of grabbing them by the pussy.

SLD

Yes, there was a woman who sued him for just that behavior.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/09/opinion/sunday/donald-trump-groper-in-chief.html

 

[repoman]

I think that there are some aspects of personality, mental skills, and true (not faked) compassion that are need for a good manager or leader.

Trump is like Clinton with none of the charm, intelligence or common sense to be ashamed of his dark lust for for power, money or women regardless of what the women want. He can't even fake his compassion like Clinton - who I think has a fair amount of real compassion with the fake.

Even Jimmy Carter said "I have lust in my heart". Nothing wrong with that. But I can just not even imagine Carter even at 30 talking like that. He would have been more worshipful and respecting of female beauty like this:

 

[RavenSky]

I, for one, have never said anything nearly like this about women.

No. I've never assaulted or bragged about that, but I've said crude things I'd like to do to various women. And bragged about a few conquests. That's how I took his comments. My wife and daughter though have told me I'm wrong to defend the comments. Sigh.

Have any women come forward and claimed he groped them without permission? I know there's a lawsuit from the girl who claims complete rape, but I was wondering about the claims of grabbing them by the pussy.

SLD

Yes. Jill Harth. Temple Taggart. Erin Burnett's friend (who wishes to remain anonymous). Those are just a few we know about. He, of course, denies it.

 

[Toni]

No. I've never assaulted or bragged about that, but I've said crude things I'd like to do to various women. And bragged about a few conquests. That's how I took his comments. My wife and daughter though have told me I'm wrong to defend the comments. Sigh.

Have any women come forward and claimed he groped them without permission? I know there's a lawsuit from the girl who claims complete rape, but I was wondering about the claims of grabbing them by the pussy.

SLD

Yes. Jill Harth. Temple Taggart. Erin Burnett's friend (who wishes to remain anonymous). Those are just a few we know about. He, of course, denies it.

Then there's this:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...nald-trump-made-feel-violated-during-sex.html

It was an unfortunate turn of phrase for Trump—in more ways than one. Not only does the current frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination have a history of controversial remarks about sexual assault, but as it turns out, his ex-wife Ivana Trump once used “rape” to describe an incident between them in 1989. She later said she felt “violated” by the experience.

Michael Cohen, special counsel at The Trump Organization, defended his boss, saying, “You’re talking about the frontrunner for the GOP, presidential candidate, as well as a private individual who never raped anybody. And, of course, understand that by the very definition, you can’t rape your spouse.”
“It is true,” Cohen added. “You cannot rape your spouse. And there’s very clear case law.”
Ivana Trump’s assertion of “rape” came in a deposition—part of the early ’90s divorce case between the Trumps, and revealed in the 1993 book Lost Tycoon: The Many Lives of Donald J. Trump.
The book, by former Texas Monthly and Newsweek reporter Harry Hurt III, described a harrowing scene. After a painful scalp reduction surgery to remove a bald spot, Donald Trump confronted his then-wife, who had previously used the same plastic surgeon.
“Your fucking doctor has ruined me!” Trump cried.
What followed was a “violent assault,” according to Lost Tycoon. Donald held back Ivana’s arms and began to pull out fistfuls of hair from her scalp, as if to mirror the pain he felt from his own operation. He tore off her clothes and unzipped his pants.

“Then he jams his penis inside her for the first time in more than sixteen months. Ivana is terrified… It is a violent assault,” Hurt writes. “According to versions she repeats to some of her closest confidantes, ‘he raped me.’”
Following the incident, Ivana ran upstairs, hid behind a locked door, and remained there “crying for the rest of night.” When she returned to the master bedroom in the morning, he was there.
“As she looks in horror at the ripped-out hair scattered all over the bed, he glares at her and asks with menacing casualness: ‘Does it hurt?’” Hurt writes.
Donald Trump has previously denied the allegation. In the book, he denies having had the scalp reduction surgery.

By 1993, marital rape was outlawed in all 50 states.

Real sweet guy.

 

[ZiprHead]

Their divorce was granted on the ground of “cruel and inhuman treatment”.

 

[Deepak]

And that's just the ones who have publicly come forward. Considering Trump's track record of lawsuits and retaliatory behaviour in business, I could see some women being very nervous about speaking publicly about similar situations.

 

[ZiprHead]

And that's just the ones who have publicly come forward. Considering Trump's track record of lawsuits and retaliatory behaviour in business, I could see some women being very nervous about speaking publicly about similar situations.

My guess is by the end of next week there will be a lot more reports.

 

[SLD]

Yes. Jill Harth. Temple Taggart. Erin Burnett's friend (who wishes to remain anonymous). Those are just a few we know about. He, of course, denies it.

Then there's this:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...nald-trump-made-feel-violated-during-sex.html

It was an unfortunate turn of phrase for Trump—in more ways than one. Not only does the current frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination have a history of controversial remarks about sexual assault, but as it turns out, his ex-wife Ivana Trump once used “rape” to describe an incident between them in 1989. She later said she felt “violated” by the experience.

Michael Cohen, special counsel at The Trump Organization, defended his boss, saying, “You’re talking about the frontrunner for the GOP, presidential candidate, as well as a private individual who never raped anybody. And, of course, understand that by the very definition, you can’t rape your spouse.”
“It is true,” Cohen added. “You cannot rape your spouse. And there’s very clear case law.”
Ivana Trump’s assertion of “rape” came in a deposition—part of the early ’90s divorce case between the Trumps, and revealed in the 1993 book Lost Tycoon: The Many Lives of Donald J. Trump.
The book, by former Texas Monthly and Newsweek reporter Harry Hurt III, described a harrowing scene. After a painful scalp reduction surgery to remove a bald spot, Donald Trump confronted his then-wife, who had previously used the same plastic surgeon.
“Your fucking doctor has ruined me!” Trump cried.
What followed was a “violent assault,” according to Lost Tycoon. Donald held back Ivana’s arms and began to pull out fistfuls of hair from her scalp, as if to mirror the pain he felt from his own operation. He tore off her clothes and unzipped his pants.

“Then he jams his penis inside her for the first time in more than sixteen months. Ivana is terrified… It is a violent assault,” Hurt writes. “According to versions she repeats to some of her closest confidantes, ‘he raped me.’”
Following the incident, Ivana ran upstairs, hid behind a locked door, and remained there “crying for the rest of night.” When she returned to the master bedroom in the morning, he was there.
“As she looks in horror at the ripped-out hair scattered all over the bed, he glares at her and asks with menacing casualness: ‘Does it hurt?’” Hurt writes.
Donald Trump has previously denied the allegation. In the book, he denies having had the scalp reduction surgery.

By 1993, marital rape was outlawed in all 50 states.

Real sweet guy.

Thanks. I was unaware of all of these. I knew about the thirteen year old girl allegations and something about an accusation from his wife, but not the others. I wasn't aware of the details with Ivana. I though I read something that part of the divorce required her to retract that statement? Is that true?

SLD

 

[Tom Sawyer]

And that's just the ones who have publicly come forward. Considering Trump's track record of lawsuits and retaliatory behaviour in business, I could see some women being very nervous about speaking publicly about similar situations.

My guess is by the end of next week there will be a lot more reports.

Well, ya. Note that the main defence is "It was 11 years ago". That means that the next batch will within that 11 year period so that Trump will need to come up with something else. It's not like there's some kind of dearth of videos so that they'll be out of bombshells to drop three weeks from now.

 

[repoman]

The irony here is that Trump was looking for acceptance and adulation from another man (something that men should mature out of by their mid 20s in an ideal world and 40s even in this world) and now has lost acceptance by many more by this release.

Seeking acceptance and adulation at the expense of crapping on others is a bad sign. I do it more than I should being honest...

At work I was hearing guys talking about other guys bragging of the amounts they could squat - truly dangerous weights. No concern amount back or knee problems from it - only trying to get adulation...

 

[SLD]

From Trump supporters on Facebook:

 

[Trausti]

So much hypocrisy.

At one point, the President inserted a cigar into Ms. Lewinsky's vagina, then put the cigar in his mouth and said: "It tastes good."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/icreport/srprintable.htm

 

[Tom Sawyer]

So much hypocrisy.

At one point, the President inserted a cigar into Ms. Lewinsky's vagina, then put the cigar in his mouth and said: "It tastes good."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/icreport/srprintable.htm

Explain the hypocrisy. At what point did Clinton sexually assault Lewinsky? Trump is bragging about just going up and groping women he meets. Clinton was engaging in consensual sex with another adult. I really don't see what the comparison is that you're drawing to have attitudes be hypocritical.