Crazy Bible Stories

[skepticalbip]

Well since there has and only ever will be one Noachian Flood it stands to reason that they wouldn't cause anything like that event.

WTF?

Are you just making up your own idea of 'the flood' while ignoring how the Bible describes it?

 

[DBT]

Do you have examples?

You can pretty much get the context by the full verse or several verses together. Even if one was to mix a variant of the word, it would probably still make sense.. that is to say that if it doesn't make sense then its probably the wrong variant. Not a real issue. You seem to have deduced a few in context yourself??

There is no need to deduce...the essential meaning of faith is to believe something is true without the support of evidence. That is what religion is based on. Equivocation doesn't help. Trust is not the same as faith, neither is hope. Justified belief is not faith, neither is knowledge.

 

[atrib]

The early human population was likely centred in a relatively small geographic area close to sea level which, if flooded, would all be wiped out.

That's not true. There were people living all over the world at the time the Biblical flood allegedly happened. From Australia to the Americas, from Egypt to China. I am certain you knew that before you posted.

 

[atrib]

Well since there has and only ever will be one Noachian Flood it stands to reason that they wouldn't cause anything like that event.

WTF?

Are you just making up your own idea of 'the flood' while ignoring how the Bible describes it?

Yes he is.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Well since there has and only ever will be one Noachian Flood it stands to reason that they wouldn't cause anything like that event.

WTF?

Are you just making up your own idea of 'the flood' while ignoring how the Bible describes it?

Yes he is.

Well, he has to. It's not like science is carrying any water to support the actual biblical narrative.

 

[Lion IRC]

Well since there has and only ever will be one Noachian Flood it stands to reason that they wouldn't cause anything like that event.

WTF?

Are you just making up your own idea of 'the flood' while ignoring how the Bible describes it?

No.
This is basic logic.
If all the exact same events as occurred in the Noachian Flood occurred again at a subsequent time, then another global flood would take place.

Has there been TWO equally destructive global floods? No.

God promised it wouldn't happen twice. Read the bible.

 

[skepticalbip]

Well since there has and only ever will be one Noachian Flood it stands to reason that they wouldn't cause anything like that event.

WTF?

Are you just making up your own idea of 'the flood' while ignoring how the Bible describes it?

No.
This is basic logic.
If all the exact same events as occurred in the Noachian Flood occurred again at a subsequent time, then another global flood would take place.

Has there been TWO equally destructive global floods? No.

God promised it wouldn't happen twice. Read the bible.

You are intentionally missing the point. The Bible gives a quite detailed description of how the flood happened. You are ignoring the Bible's description so I have to assume that you recognize it as stupid. Instead, you pull a tsunami out of your ass to offer a way it could have happened (which is even more stupid) just so there could be a flood. So I have to take that as you saying that the Bible's detailed story is nonsense since you are aware that there isn't that much water.

Since you claim to be religious, it would seem that you are digging a religious hole you will need to atone for.

 

[Lion IRC]

That's a pretty lame tactic - accuse me of not really believing what I state.
Plus, last time I checked, you were the one trying to take the most advantage of what the Bible doesn't say.

 

[bigfield]

The early human population was likely centred in a relatively small geographic area close to sea level which, if flooded, would all be wiped out.

But even IF a small handful of humans were living on a mountain top on the opposite side of the globe far away from Noah's Ark, a huge tidal swell or tsunami could reach them too.

You have to be pretty ignorant of science to find such theories convincing.

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

The early human population was likely centred in a relatively small geographic area close to sea level which, if flooded, would all be wiped out.

But even IF a small handful of humans were living on a mountain top on the opposite side of the globe far away from Noah's Ark, a huge tidal swell or tsunami could reach them too.

You have to be pretty ignorant of science to find such theories convincing.

It's not even a theory because there isn't any evidence supporting such a conclusion. As it stands, based on a person's very limited knowledge, it's a hypothesis, something like barnacle geese or Santa belief in a five-year-old. With additional investigation the hypothesis fails.

Of course, one can always sprinkle around religious magic and then all hypotheses are the truth.

 

[skepticalbip]

The really weird bit is that the Bible spells out a fairly detailed description of how 'The Flood' happened. The Bible is supposedly the 'word of god'. Lion claims to believe the Bible and yet, in this case, he decides that the Bible doesn't really mean what it says. However for some reason he claims to know what god really meant to say.

Neither story makes any sense but the one offered by Lion seems to be the most wacky.

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

The really weird bit is that the Bible spells out a fairly detailed description of how 'The Flood' happened. The Bible is supposedly the 'word of god'. Lion claims to believe the Bible and yet, in this case, he decides that the Bible doesn't really mean what it says. However for some reason he claims to know what god really meant to say.

Neither story makes any sense but the one offered by Lion seems to be the most wacky.

People naturally make their gods like themselves.

 

[Lion IRC]

The early human population was likely centred in a relatively small geographic area close to sea level which, if flooded, would all be wiped out.

But even IF a small handful of humans were living on a mountain top on the opposite side of the globe far away from Noah's Ark, a huge tidal swell or tsunami could reach them too.

You have to be pretty ignorant of science to find such theories convincing.

Despite my meagre understanding of the highly complex science of drowning, Im fairly certain that a small human population centred in a relatively small geographic area close to sea level would all be wiped out in a mega-tsunami/flood.
I imagine that would have something to do with humans not having gills.

 

[Lion IRC]

The really weird bit is that the Bible spells out a fairly detailed description of how 'The Flood' happened. The Bible is supposedly the 'word of god'. Lion claims to believe the Bible and yet, in this case, he decides that the Bible doesn't really mean what it says. However for some reason he claims to know what god really meant to say.

Neither story makes any sense but the one offered by Lion seems to be the most wacky.

Hello!!!
I'm the fundy here. Not you.
I'm the one who takes the bible literally.
I don't need a "wacky theory" to get around inconvenient biblical texts regarding the Flood.

 

[bigfield]

The early human population was likely centred in a relatively small geographic area close to sea level which, if flooded, would all be wiped out.

But even IF a small handful of humans were living on a mountain top on the opposite side of the globe far away from Noah's Ark, a huge tidal swell or tsunami could reach them too.

You have to be pretty ignorant of science to find such theories convincing.

Despite my meagre understanding of the highly complex science of drowning, Im fairly certain that a small human population centred in a relatively small geographic area close to sea level would all be wiped out in a mega-tsunami/flood.
I imagine that would have something to do with humans not having gills.

Perfect illustration that "you don't know what you don't know."

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Did the fundamentalist just say that there is Biblical text that is inconvenient?

The inerrant and literal word of god is inconvenient?

 

[ideologyhunter]

Egypt has a continuous written history going back to about 3100 BCE, and no known text saying, 'We just paused for a station break because a big flood just killed everybody but now we're somehow back and writing in our old language.'

 

[atrib]

Learner can attempt to engage if he wants.

Learner is a good guy. He may have a wild imagination, but I have never seen him be rude or insulting to atheists. I have never seen him try to label pedophile Catholic priests as atheists, or categorize atheists as drug users or mentally ill. We can all learn a thing or two about civility from Learner.

As for me I don't think there's any point engaging with people who spitefully use the negative rep system after feigning an interest in sincere dialogue.
Neither do I think anyone benefits from engaging with someone they have labelled a troll.

I call you out on the nonsense you post because I think it is important that people stand up for the truth. And you are wrong, I am interested in sincere dialogue with people who holds opinions different from mine, but dialogue is a two-way street.

 

[Learner]

The Earth has a circumference of approximately 25,000 miles. According to the Noah Fable the earth became dry again after 370 days. Therefore the tsunami speed and height can be calculated. 30,000 feet of water which rose at a rate of 725 feet per day then circled the globe in 370 days. So the giant tsunami moved at a speed of 1000 miles per hour around the earth.

That's a real wow story. Tsunamis a pittance that tall and moving much slower do horrendous damage. Noah sure was a good boat builder.

This could be a little misleading because you have set the scene shall we say and we would have to abide by the way you propose it, shown in your quote above, directing some response to your thought-exercise of sorts in that proposed direction. I would have probably tried the puzzle myself, straight away, after you would have posted it but now I won't abide to your proposed tsunami scene, If you don't mind.

Water coming from below is not from one individual source like one single gargantuan tap or that there is one-only great-drain when water could easily finds it's way throught the cracks of the earth e.g. levels receding all over the place.

There would be tsunami like forces on EVERY coastline when waters rise up. I would assume valleys below sea-level, would have similar effects like dams bursting. We know the devastation effects of heavy rain in just a few days in low-lands and large area flat-lands that are known to have monsoons.

 

[skepticalbip]

The really weird bit is that the Bible spells out a fairly detailed description of how 'The Flood' happened. The Bible is supposedly the 'word of god'. Lion claims to believe the Bible and yet, in this case, he decides that the Bible doesn't really mean what it says. However for some reason he claims to know what god really meant to say.

Neither story makes any sense but the one offered by Lion seems to be the most wacky.

Hello!!!
I'm the fundy here. Not you.
I'm the one who takes the bible literally.
I don't need a "wacky theory" to get around inconvenient biblical texts regarding the Flood.

I suggest you read back over your posts. You have been writing your own bible because none of the shit you are claiming is in the Bible. You may need to read the Bible too if you are as unaware of its description of the flood as you seem to be.