Confirmed, Russian hackers ARE NOT the source behind the recent WikiLeaks

[repoman]

More leads on the killers of the young boy in Syria:





So Mahmoud is a reporter who was not on the scene of the beheading, but has met at least two of the killers.

http://www.geopolmonitor.com/aleppo-boy-photographer-responds-to-allegations-of-beheading-involvment/



below is not really related, but interesting

 

[KeepTalking]

I'm not sure what any of this has to do with the OP, but as far as the final CNN picture of the girl being rescued 3 times, which you declared "interesting"...

The man in the first picture is wearing a hardhat, which makes it likely he was working in an area in which there might be falling debris, so he probably pulled her from the rubble of wherever she was found. The second man is wearing scrubs, and a belt pack, which indicates he is a medical worker who likely took the girl from the person who rescued her, and provided a medical assessment. The final picture shows a man in civilian clothes, which makes it harder to identify why he might be holding the girl, but my guess is that he is a relative who picked up the girl after the medical assessment was complete.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

below is not really related, but interesting
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It's not really CNN doing this, but local stringers that pull things like this. The stringers actually work for one of the sides. This is very common in Gaza, I'm not one bit surprised the same tactics have spread to Syria.

 

[KeepTalking]

below is not really related, but interesting
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It's not really CNN doing this, but local stringers that pull things like this. The stringers actually work for one of the sides. This is very common in Gaza, I'm not one bit surprised the same tactics have spread to Syria.

It doesn't appear to be anyone doing this, as I noted in my previous post on this, there is a perfectly reasonable explanation for why 3 different men are seen holding this child: rescue worker hands off to medical worker who hands off to a relative.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

It's not really CNN doing this, but local stringers that pull things like this. The stringers actually work for one of the sides. This is very common in Gaza, I'm not one bit surprised the same tactics have spread to Syria.

It doesn't appear to be anyone doing this, as I noted in my previous post on this, there is a perfectly reasonable explanation for why 3 different men are seen holding this child: rescue worker hands off to medical worker who hands off to a relative.

There have been plenty of examples of the same prop (including people) being used for many shots. I see no reason to think this isn't more of the same.

Furthermore, if your scenario is right why would the reporter have published three different shots of the same rescue.

 

[barbos]

It's not really CNN doing this, but local stringers that pull things like this. The stringers actually work for one of the sides. This is very common in Gaza, I'm not one bit surprised the same tactics have spread to Syria.

It doesn't appear to be anyone doing this, as I noted in my previous post on this, there is a perfectly reasonable explanation for why 3 different men are seen holding this child: rescue worker hands off to medical worker who hands off to a relative.

Did you read the caption to the picture?

 

[KeepTalking]

It doesn't appear to be anyone doing this, as I noted in my previous post on this, there is a perfectly reasonable explanation for why 3 different men are seen holding this child: rescue worker hands off to medical worker who hands off to a relative.

There have been plenty of examples of the same prop (including people) being used for many shots. I see no reason to think this isn't more of the same.

I gave you a reason to think that the girl was no mere prop, and the photos not fake. Take another look at the first one in the series, the guy with the hardhat is holding another child in his other arm, and someone else is helping with another child behind him. It makes perfect sense that someone else would relieve him of half his burden, and/or that he handed the girl off to the guy dressed in scrubs who appears to be a medical worker.

Furthermore, if your scenario is right why would the reporter have published three different shots of the same rescue.

Perhaps a string of photos to show the entire story of how these children were rescued? You have no idea of the original context in which these photos were presented. You are being manipulated by the person who constructed the meme that repoman posted.

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It doesn't appear to be anyone doing this, as I noted in my previous post on this, there is a perfectly reasonable explanation for why 3 different men are seen holding this child: rescue worker hands off to medical worker who hands off to a relative.

Did you read the caption to the picture?

Yes. Why do you suppose that the meme presented in that caption bears any resemblance to reality?

 

[barbos]

It doesn't appear to be anyone doing this, as I noted in my previous post on this, there is a perfectly reasonable explanation for why 3 different men are seen holding this child: rescue worker hands off to medical worker who hands off to a relative.

Did you read the caption to the picture?

Yes. Why do you suppose that the meme presented in that caption bears any resemblance to reality?

I don't suppose anything. I merely point out that your rational explanation ignores the claim, which could be false or true I don't know.

 

[KeepTalking]

It doesn't appear to be anyone doing this, as I noted in my previous post on this, there is a perfectly reasonable explanation for why 3 different men are seen holding this child: rescue worker hands off to medical worker who hands off to a relative.

Did you read the caption to the picture?

Yes. Why do you suppose that the meme presented in that caption bears any resemblance to reality?

I don't suppose anything. I merely point out that your rational explanation ignores it.

As well it should, because the meme is nowhere near a primary source for information on this incident. I note that CNN is a News Network, and they present news via video 24 hours a day, yet this meme is merely 3 heavily cropped images. Where is the video, if this is accurately portraying something that was shown on CNN?

 

[barbos]

It doesn't appear to be anyone doing this, as I noted in my previous post on this, there is a perfectly reasonable explanation for why 3 different men are seen holding this child: rescue worker hands off to medical worker who hands off to a relative.

Did you read the caption to the picture?

Yes. Why do you suppose that the meme presented in that caption bears any resemblance to reality?

I don't suppose anything. I merely point out that your rational explanation ignores it.

As well it should, because the meme is nowhere near a primary source for information on this incident. I note that CNN is a News Network, and they present news via video 24 hours a day, yet this meme is merely 3 heavily cropped images. Where is the video, if this is accurately portraying something that was shown on CNN?

Your rational explanation was pointless because it did not address the problem.
Of course same girl can be photographed few times, there is no crime in that and you explanation is not required.

 

[KeepTalking]

It doesn't appear to be anyone doing this, as I noted in my previous post on this, there is a perfectly reasonable explanation for why 3 different men are seen holding this child: rescue worker hands off to medical worker who hands off to a relative.

Did you read the caption to the picture?

Yes. Why do you suppose that the meme presented in that caption bears any resemblance to reality?

I don't suppose anything. I merely point out that your rational explanation ignores it.

As well it should, because the meme is nowhere near a primary source for information on this incident. I note that CNN is a News Network, and they present news via video 24 hours a day, yet this meme is merely 3 heavily cropped images. Where is the video, if this is accurately portraying something that was shown on CNN?

Your rational explanation was pointless because it did not address the problem.

Then please explain the problem.

Of course same girl can be photographed few times, there is no crime in that and you explanation is not required.

Then why was the meme presented in this thread as evidence of some sort of nefarious activity?

 

[Elixir]

I see no reason to think this isn't more of the same.

Well, that's a problem. Very few suckers for the Russian-led campaign to discredit MSM would see any reason to listen to the rational explanation either.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

There have been plenty of examples of the same prop (including people) being used for many shots. I see no reason to think this isn't more of the same.

I gave you a reason to think that the girl was no mere prop, and the photos not fake.

Being a person doesn't make her not a prop. If the photos are staged she's a prop.

Furthermore, if your scenario is right why would the reporter have published three different shots of the same rescue.

Perhaps a string of photos to show the entire story of how these children were rescued? You have no idea of the original context in which these photos were presented. You are being manipulated by the person who constructed the meme that repoman posted.

CNN doesn't tell long stories.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I see no reason to think this isn't more of the same.

Well, that's a problem. Very few suckers for the Russian-led campaign to discredit MSM would see any reason to listen to the rational explanation either.

I don't see it as an effort to discredit the MSM. This doesn't prove CNN is no good, it simply shows they can be manipulated by local stringers.

It's far more an issue about the reporting of the situation there than of the organization doing the reporting.

 

[Elixir]

Well, that's a problem. Very few suckers for the Russian-led campaign to discredit MSM would see any reason to listen to the rational explanation either.

I don't see it as an effort to discredit the MSM. This doesn't prove CNN is no good, it simply shows they can be manipulated by local stringers.

"Stringers"? Typo?
I don't see how this indicates any manipulation by "strangers" (or stringers). The process of putting together news segments probably does not include exhaustive searches of past segments that might include pictures of the same child in the hands of different agencies...
IOW, I see it as an outgrowth of the very nature of MSM/soundbyte-ism.

It's far more an issue about the reporting of the situation there than of the organization doing the reporting.

Not sure how you are separating the two, unless you're saying the same thing that I am.

 

[KeepTalking]

I gave you a reason to think that the girl was no mere prop, and the photos not fake.

Being a person doesn't make her not a prop. If the photos are staged she's a prop.

There is no reason to think that the photos are staged. There is plenty of reason to think that they show the normal way a rescue operation of this type is carried out.

Furthermore, if your scenario is right why would the reporter have published three different shots of the same rescue.

Perhaps a string of photos to show the entire story of how these children were rescued? You have no idea of the original context in which these photos were presented. You are being manipulated by the person who constructed the meme that repoman posted.

CNN doesn't tell long stories.

So what (even though you are wrong)? There is absolutely nothing other than a meme caption that indicates this came from CNN at all. Show me the original story or stories from CNN, or stfu about CNN.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I don't see it as an effort to discredit the MSM. This doesn't prove CNN is no good, it simply shows they can be manipulated by local stringers.

"Stringers"? Typo?
I don't see how this indicates any manipulation by "strangers" (or stringers). The process of putting together news segments probably does not include exhaustive searches of past segments that might include pictures of the same child in the hands of different agencies...
IOW, I see it as an outgrowth of the very nature of MSM/soundbyte-ism.

It's far more an issue about the reporting of the situation there than of the organization doing the reporting.

Not sure how you are separating the two, unless you're saying the same thing that I am.

I'm saying reports from stringers in areas like the Middle East are unreliable regardless of who is doing the reporting.

And "stringers" isn't a typo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stringer_(journalism)

 

[bilby]

"Stringers"? Typo?
I don't see how this indicates any manipulation by "strangers" (or stringers). The process of putting together news segments probably does not include exhaustive searches of past segments that might include pictures of the same child in the hands of different agencies...
IOW, I see it as an outgrowth of the very nature of MSM/soundbyte-ism.

It's far more an issue about the reporting of the situation there than of the organization doing the reporting.

Not sure how you are separating the two, unless you're saying the same thing that I am.

I'm saying reports from stringers in areas like the Middle East are unreliable regardless of who is doing the reporting.

And "stringers" isn't a typo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stringer_(journalism)

Reports from stringers in the Middle East are unreliable.

Therefore we cannot know what is really happening.

Therefore Loren Pechtel's guesses about what is happening are as valid as any guesses.

Therefore we must agree with Loren Pechtel.

That's some impeccable logic you've got going there Loren.

 

[barbos]

"Stringers"? Typo?
I don't see how this indicates any manipulation by "strangers" (or stringers). The process of putting together news segments probably does not include exhaustive searches of past segments that might include pictures of the same child in the hands of different agencies...
IOW, I see it as an outgrowth of the very nature of MSM/soundbyte-ism.

It's far more an issue about the reporting of the situation there than of the organization doing the reporting.

Not sure how you are separating the two, unless you're saying the same thing that I am.

I'm saying reports from stringers in areas like the Middle East are unreliable regardless of who is doing the reporting.

And "stringers" isn't a typo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stringer_(journalism)

Reports from stringers in the Middle East are unreliable.

Therefore we cannot know what is really happening.

Well, let's check. Do you think Assad have used chemical weapons?

 

[bilby]

"Stringers"? Typo?
I don't see how this indicates any manipulation by "strangers" (or stringers). The process of putting together news segments probably does not include exhaustive searches of past segments that might include pictures of the same child in the hands of different agencies...
IOW, I see it as an outgrowth of the very nature of MSM/soundbyte-ism.

It's far more an issue about the reporting of the situation there than of the organization doing the reporting.

Not sure how you are separating the two, unless you're saying the same thing that I am.

I'm saying reports from stringers in areas like the Middle East are unreliable regardless of who is doing the reporting.

And "stringers" isn't a typo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stringer_(journalism)

Reports from stringers in the Middle East are unreliable.

Therefore we cannot know what is really happening.

Well, let's check. Do you think Assad have used chemical weapons?

Read my post in its entirety.

Any ideas you might glean from reading only a part of it have only a coincidental relationship to my point.

Any questions you have that don't concern it's entire content are irrelevant.

Quoting only a part of it is pointless.