California Doing California Things

[TV and credit cards]

These unelected busybodies have decided what tires you can put on your vehicle.

California regulators on Monday approved new rules that will restrict what tires you can buy when it's time to replace them on your car. In a unanimous vote, the California Energy Commission voted to adopt new rules that will phase out the sale of replacement tires that don't meet certain energy efficiency standards.

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Looking at their list of exceptions, what's left? What's getting restricted?

I would think by and large we are talking about brodozers rolling M/T or aggressive A/T tires on the street or tuner cars with soft compound racing tires. Both of which suck on wet roads.

Or are you now advocating for tuner cars doing donuts in the intersections?

In Northern states and Alaska there are laws about studded tires. Is that state overreach?

Not in my opinion. They tear up the roads.

 

[Bomb#20]

So, Swiz. What US states do you actually like? Which states do you feel are run well, and what do you like about them?

Can anyone guess Swiz’s fav?
I think TEXAS.
They have a venerable tradition since the 1820s, of holding the line against conferring rights to non-whites. Last to get rid of slavery, ...

Not so. Kentucky, Delaware and New Jersey all kept slavery in force for another six months after it was abolished in Texas, right up until the 13th Amendment was ratified by 3/4 of the states. (New Jersey is commonly but inaccurately described as a "free state" because it had a gradual emancipation law in effect. By 1865 it was down to sixteen remaining slaves.)

 

[Elixir]

Not so. Kentucky, Delaware and New Jersey all kept slavery in force for another six months after it was abolished in Texas, right up until the 13th Amendment was ratified by 3/4 of the states.

Right. My sloppiness. Texas was the last confederate State to have emancipation enforced by troops. I think.

 

[Politesse]

Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, South Carolina, and Texas still use slave labor via their prison systems, taking advantage of the exception clause in the Amendment. Yes, yes, I know, that "doesn't count as slavery" (tm)(big wink towards audience). But you know, most countries that have banned slavery, have banned all slavery. Not just most slavery, with a massive asterisk.

 

[Politesse]

Incidentally, California's record is hardly spotless on this front. Not only was there mass enslavement for centuries in this supposedly free state, voters continue to oppose full emancipation here as well. Despite fervent campaigning on the issue by my organization and many others, two years ago voters strongly rejected a measure that would have ended forced (compensated, though severely undercompensated) labor in the prison system. A similar measure had been attempted two years before that, with the same result. California voters demand that the state put out wildfires when they threaten their homes, but they don't give a flying shit about the wellbeing of the prison labor that prevents the fires from starting in the first place. Fuck those people, right? They did some sort of crime or other, that should void any and all rights. Apparently. Many of our "not slaves" are performing forced manual labor for private corporations, at less than 75 cents an hour.

 

[scombrid]

This is what we have to put up with in the fourth largest economy in the world.

That's a city problem, not a state problem.

It's representative of what's happening and has been happening in the populous areas of California for far too long. L.A. and. the L.A. area in general is a big part of what makes California what it is. Watching it steadily go to pot while so many overly idealistic people pretend everything's fine is maddening. It's a refusal to acknowledge just bad things have gotten and the basis for that refusal to admit it is baffling in the highest.

The problem of derelict buildings and the issues they cause (including fire) is not unique to LA or to California. Unfortunately.

I agree that nationwide, cities and municipalities need to look at how derelict or abandoned buildings are dealt with and preventing abandoned buildings. Unfortunately, that will cost money and everybody is all about not spending money but some problems can only be solved with money and if you aren't willing to spend the money, then you will have those problems.

It is quite tragic, especially given the shortage of housing in the US that buildings are left derelict and not rehabbed for low income housing where appropriate or otherwise re-utilized. Even if they do not burn down, such buildings can cause dangers to neighboring properties.

Derelict buildings? A girl just fell through the roof of one and died here in Florida. It was a condo project abandoned in 2008. Then there’s “The Compound” in Palm Bay…

 

[ZiprHead]

This is what we have to put up with in the fourth largest economy in the world.

That's a city problem, not a state problem.

It's representative of what's happening and has been happening in the populous areas of California for far too long. L.A. and. the L.A. area in general is a big part of what makes California what it is. Watching it steadily go to pot while so many overly idealistic people pretend everything's fine is maddening. It's a refusal to acknowledge just bad things have gotten and the basis for that refusal to admit it is baffling in the highest.

The problem of derelict buildings and the issues they cause (including fire) is not unique to LA or to California. Unfortunately.

I agree that nationwide, cities and municipalities need to look at how derelict or abandoned buildings are dealt with and preventing abandoned buildings. Unfortunately, that will cost money and everybody is all about not spending money but some problems can only be solved with money and if you aren't willing to spend the money, then you will have those problems.

It is quite tragic, especially given the shortage of housing in the US that buildings are left derelict and not rehabbed for low income housing where appropriate or otherwise re-utilized. Even if they do not burn down, such buildings can cause dangers to neighboring properties.

Derelict buildings? A girl just fell through the roof of one and died here in Florida. It was a condo project abandoned in 2008. Then there’s “The Compound” in Palm Bay…

Liar! That would never happen in a Republican run state.

 

[Colonel Sanders]

This is what we have to put up with in the fourth largest economy in the world.

That's a city problem, not a state problem.

It's representative of what's happening and has been happening in the populous areas of California for far too long. L.A. and. the L.A. area in general is a big part of what makes California what it is. Watching it steadily go to pot while so many overly idealistic people pretend everything's fine is maddening. It's a refusal to acknowledge just bad things have gotten and the basis for that refusal to admit it is baffling in the highest.

The problem of derelict buildings and the issues they cause (including fire) is not unique to LA or to California. Unfortunately.

I agree that nationwide, cities and municipalities need to look at how derelict or abandoned buildings are dealt with and preventing abandoned buildings. Unfortunately, that will cost money and everybody is all about not spending money but some problems can only be solved with money and if you aren't willing to spend the money, then you will have those problems.

It is quite tragic, especially given the shortage of housing in the US that buildings are left derelict and not rehabbed for low income housing where appropriate or otherwise re-utilized. Even if they do not burn down, such buildings can cause dangers to neighboring properties.

Derelict buildings? A girl just fell through the roof of one and died here in Florida. It was a condo project abandoned in 2008. Then there’s “The Compound” in Palm Bay…

Liar! That would never happen in a Republican run state.

I don't think anyone said it wouldn't happen in a Republican state. I no longer live in California, but I did for 55 years of my life. To see L.A. and Hollywood go to pot is heartbreaking for a lot of us and it's frustrating to hear others hand wave the problem away like it's no big deal, or something that we should just accept as a new and unchangeable reality; and that to disagree with that means we're Trump supporters or something vile like that.

I used to be able to take my kids to the Walk of Fame, Venice Beach, the La Brea Tarpits, and pretty much anywhere else worth visiting, and feel safe in doing so. I wouldn't consider taking my grandkids to any of those places anymore.

 

[Politesse]

I don't think anyone said it wouldn't happen in a Republican state. I no longer live in California, but I did for 55 years of my life. To see L.A. and Hollywood go to pot is heartbreaking for a lot of us and it's frustrating to hear others hand wave the problem away like it's no big deal, or something that we should just accept as a new and unchangeable reality; and that to disagree with that means we're Trump supporters or something vile like that.

When was California unpotted, to you? What was its best year?

If you're avoiding Venice Beach because you're pretending it is unsafe, you're only hurting yourself. 10 million people visit every year, and there's next to no serious crime.

 

[TSwizzle]

I don't think anyone said it wouldn't happen in a Republican state. I no longer live in California, but I did for 55 years of my life. To see L.A. and Hollywood go to pot is heartbreaking for a lot of us and it's frustrating to hear others hand wave the problem away like it's no big deal, or something that we should just accept as a new and unchangeable reality; and that to disagree with that means we're Trump supporters or something vile like that.

Yes, it can be changed if people stop voting for the lunatic democrats who are hell bent on punishing ordinary working people. Take the LA mayor race for example. Rick Caruso ran for mayor and lost out to Marxist Karen Bass and things keep getting worse. Bass is running for re-election against an equally unhinged, incompetent and commie Nithya Raman. Raman isn't even popular in her own district. This is what we are left with after Spencer Pratt was squeezed out.

I used to be able to take my kids to the Walk of Fame, Venice Beach, the La Brea Tarpits, and pretty much anywhere else worth visiting, and feel safe in doing so. I wouldn't consider taking my grandkids to any of those places anymore.

I wouldn't say these places are necessarily unsafe in that you are in danger of being assaulted or robbed but these areas are not pleasant anymore. Venice stinks of urine and weed, La Brea Tarpits (just closed for renovations) has a load of junkie zombies wandering around and encampments. The Walk Of Fame has a lot of junkie zombies wandering around and sleeping in doorways etc. That part of Hollywood was actually pretty nice up until 10~ years ago. But it is going downhill. I drive through that area daily and it look terrible, trash everywhere, junkie zombies lying around. Some of them sitting in their piss and shit in the bus stops. Tragic.

 

[Politesse]

Anyone who thinks Hollywood is a "bad neighborhood" should at all costs avoid visiting East LA.

 

[thebeave]

The Walk Of Fame has a lot of junkie zombies wandering around and sleeping in doorways etc. That part of Hollywood was actually pretty nice up until 10~ years ago. But it is going downhill. I drive through that area daily and it look terrible, trash everywhere, junkie zombies lying around. Some of them sitting in their piss and shit in the bus stops. Tragic.

You're not kidding:

 

[brewer]

Any talk of Cali building desalination plants?

 

[Colonel Sanders]

The Walk Of Fame has a lot of junkie zombies wandering around and sleeping in doorways etc. That part of Hollywood was actually pretty nice up until 10~ years ago. But it is going downhill. I drive through that area daily and it look terrible, trash everywhere, junkie zombies lying around. Some of them sitting in their piss and shit in the bus stops. Tragic.

You're not kidding:

Aaaaaaaaaand that's why I'd never take my grandkids there.

 

[Politesse]

Any talk of Cali building desalination plants?

If curious you can read about our desalinization facilities on the state water board website, here:

Experience

gispublic.waterboards.ca.gov

Because much of our coastline is tied up in either protected commercial and military lanes, or adjacent to protected marine life districts, we tend not to have giant, hulking facilities such as you see in places like Mauritania or Saudi Arabia, but they do supply many of our smaller water districts on the coast. The largest, which is in Carlsbad, opened about a decade ago and is still regarded as one of the most cutting edge, energy efficent plants in the world. Despite that, it has been extremely controversial, both because of environmental concerns, and because running it still costs more than importing water into the same water district. It's a sacrifice of greater cost in favor of long term sustainability, and a sizeable minority of voters feel pretty miffed about their concerns being overruled in that regard.

Desal may be about to become a major topic of interest to our member Tswizzle, as there's been a proposal to build a new deep sea facility just a few miles off the coast of Santa Monica, CA, near his adoptive home.

Small note: no Californian ever talks about "Cali" doing anything. Aside from turncoat Republican types, we all love the place that we live, and prefer to say its name in full if we're going to say it at all.

 

[brewer]

If curious you can read about our desalinization facilities on the state water board website, here:

Experience

gispublic.waterboards.ca.gov

Because much of our coastline is tied up in either protected commercial and military lanes, or adjacent to protected marine life districts, we tend not to have giant, hulking facilities such as you see in places like Mauritania or Saudi Arabia, but they do supply many of our smaller water districts on the coast. The largest, which is in Carlsbad, opened about a decade ago and is still regarded as one of the most cutting edge, energy efficent plants in the world. Despite that, it has been extremely controversial, both because of environmental concerns, and because running it still costs more than importing water into the same water district. It's a sacrifice of greater cost in favor of long term sustainability, and a sizeable minority of voters feel pretty miffed about their concerns being overruled in that regard.

Desal may be about to become a major topic of interest to our member Tswizzle, as there's been a proposal to build a new deep sea facility just a few miles off the coast of Santa Monica, CA, near his adoptive home.

Small note: no Californian ever talks about "Cali" doing anything. Aside from turncoat Republican types, we all love the place that we live, and prefer to say its name in full if we're going to say it at all.

That's what my CA transplant neighbor calls it. No offense meant.

 

[thebeave]

If curious you can read about our desalinization facilities on the state water board website, here:

Experience

gispublic.waterboards.ca.gov

Because much of our coastline is tied up in either protected commercial and military lanes, or adjacent to protected marine life districts, we tend not to have giant, hulking facilities such as you see in places like Mauritania or Saudi Arabia, but they do supply many of our smaller water districts on the coast. The largest, which is in Carlsbad, opened about a decade ago and is still regarded as one of the most cutting edge, energy efficent plants in the world. Despite that, it has been extremely controversial, both because of environmental concerns, and because running it still costs more than importing water into the same water district. It's a sacrifice of greater cost in favor of long term sustainability, and a sizeable minority of voters feel pretty miffed about their concerns being overruled in that regard.

Desal may be about to become a major topic of interest to our member Tswizzle, as there's been a proposal to build a new deep sea facility just a few miles off the coast of Santa Monica, CA, near his adoptive home.

Small note: no Californian ever talks about "Cali" doing anything. Aside from turncoat Republican types, we all love the place that we live, and prefer to say its name in full if we're going to say it at all.

That's what my CA transplant neighbor calls it. No offense meant.

Feel free to call San Francisco, "Frisco" though. Everyone loves that.

 

[Colonel Sanders]

If curious you can read about our desalinization facilities on the state water board website, here:

Experience

gispublic.waterboards.ca.gov

Because much of our coastline is tied up in either protected commercial and military lanes, or adjacent to protected marine life districts, we tend not to have giant, hulking facilities such as you see in places like Mauritania or Saudi Arabia, but they do supply many of our smaller water districts on the coast. The largest, which is in Carlsbad, opened about a decade ago and is still regarded as one of the most cutting edge, energy efficent plants in the world. Despite that, it has been extremely controversial, both because of environmental concerns, and because running it still costs more than importing water into the same water district. It's a sacrifice of greater cost in favor of long term sustainability, and a sizeable minority of voters feel pretty miffed about their concerns being overruled in that regard.

Desal may be about to become a major topic of interest to our member Tswizzle, as there's been a proposal to build a new deep sea facility just a few miles off the coast of Santa Monica, CA, near his adoptive home.

Small note: no Californian ever talks about "Cali" doing anything. Aside from turncoat Republican types, we all love the place that we live, and prefer to say its name in full if we're going to say it at all.

That's what my CA transplant neighbor calls it. No offense meant.

Feel free to call San Francisco, "Frisco" though. Everyone loves that.

I'm from SoCal and I've always called it SoCal, so if anyone doesn't want to hear "SoCal" then they shouldn't listen to me call it "SoCal."

I ain't no nothin' 'bout Frisco.

 

[thebeave]

If curious you can read about our desalinization facilities on the state water board website, here:

Experience

gispublic.waterboards.ca.gov

Because much of our coastline is tied up in either protected commercial and military lanes, or adjacent to protected marine life districts, we tend not to have giant, hulking facilities such as you see in places like Mauritania or Saudi Arabia, but they do supply many of our smaller water districts on the coast. The largest, which is in Carlsbad, opened about a decade ago and is still regarded as one of the most cutting edge, energy efficent plants in the world. Despite that, it has been extremely controversial, both because of environmental concerns, and because running it still costs more than importing water into the same water district. It's a sacrifice of greater cost in favor of long term sustainability, and a sizeable minority of voters feel pretty miffed about their concerns being overruled in that regard.

Desal may be about to become a major topic of interest to our member Tswizzle, as there's been a proposal to build a new deep sea facility just a few miles off the coast of Santa Monica, CA, near his adoptive home.

Small note: no Californian ever talks about "Cali" doing anything. Aside from turncoat Republican types, we all love the place that we live, and prefer to say its name in full if we're going to say it at all.

That's what my CA transplant neighbor calls it. No offense meant.

Feel free to call San Francisco, "Frisco" though. Everyone loves that.

I'm from SoCal and I've always called it SoCal, so if anyone doesn't want to hear "SoCal" then they shouldn't listen to me call it "SoCal."

I ain't no nothin' 'bout Frisco.

Let's just say...it's complicated.

Why Do Some Hate the Nickname ‘Frisco’?

 

[Politesse]

If curious you can read about our desalinization facilities on the state water board website, here:

Experience

gispublic.waterboards.ca.gov

Because much of our coastline is tied up in either protected commercial and military lanes, or adjacent to protected marine life districts, we tend not to have giant, hulking facilities such as you see in places like Mauritania or Saudi Arabia, but they do supply many of our smaller water districts on the coast. The largest, which is in Carlsbad, opened about a decade ago and is still regarded as one of the most cutting edge, energy efficent plants in the world. Despite that, it has been extremely controversial, both because of environmental concerns, and because running it still costs more than importing water into the same water district. It's a sacrifice of greater cost in favor of long term sustainability, and a sizeable minority of voters feel pretty miffed about their concerns being overruled in that regard.

Desal may be about to become a major topic of interest to our member Tswizzle, as there's been a proposal to build a new deep sea facility just a few miles off the coast of Santa Monica, CA, near his adoptive home.

Small note: no Californian ever talks about "Cali" doing anything. Aside from turncoat Republican types, we all love the place that we live, and prefer to say its name in full if we're going to say it at all.

That's what my CA transplant neighbor calls it. No offense meant.

Feel free to call San Francisco, "Frisco" though. Everyone loves that.

I'm from SoCal and I've always called it SoCal, so if anyone doesn't want to hear "SoCal" then they shouldn't listen to me call it "SoCal."

I ain't no nothin' 'bout Frisco.

That's different. I'm most certainly from NorCal. But not "Cali".