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2026 Midterm Elections

I thought this thread was about the midterms, but most of it isn't really about anything related to the midterms.
Jarhyn's hobbyhorse does not have anything to do with the Midterms.
The state of the economy, and costs of things like energy and real estate, does, however.
The president doesn't control the price of oil or utilities either.
Not directly. There is no "WTI spot price" lever hidden on the bottom of the Resolute desk.
But the president (and Congress) can impose policies that in turn, together with other countries' policies and variables in nobody's control (like weather, physics and geology), affect the price of oil and other energy sources and carriers.
Why aren't we talking about the programs he, with the help of the idiots in Congress have allowed him to drastically cut? People aren't happy about having programs cut back, including SNAP for example.
That would be a worthwhile discussion topic relevant to the Midterms, if there was a disagreement about those cuts being a bad thing.
In a discussion forum, topics over there is a disagreement attract most attention. And the real estate and energy discussion was spurned by Gospel's now infamous post #7. I do not disagree with him that things like housing and energy costs are important. I disagree with him on his assessment of housing market being "in flames" and that "energy costs [are] punching everyone in the throat". I also disagree with him that existence of these issues means that we should not talk about the candidates themselves. I think the quality of candidates matters a great deal. Poor candidates can destroy an overall favorable political landscape, as Republicans found out in 2022.
Plenty of Trump supporters are low income people who need help. People aren't happy about the Republicans refusing to renew the subsidies for the ACA. Those are a few examples of what will influence voters, as well as the price of groceries, some of which have spiked to the insane tariffs.
Personally, I have not noticed insane increase in price of groceries. But you are right, ACA subsidies hitting the wallet will have a huge impact on many households, including Trump voters.
People aren't happy about seeing immigrants, including those who are here legally being brutalized by ICE in some cases and then taken to horrible detention centers.
While stronger immigration enforcement was sorely needed, especially in so-called sanctuary cities, Trump has gone too far. Hopefully, the pendulum does not swing back to the "let them all in" sentiment of the 2019 Dem primary debates.
Even low information voters often know the importance of hard working immigrants that have come here legally or who are asking for asylum.
The asylum system is abused by millions of people coming here for economic reason. And "hard working" or not, no country can allow to let in anybody who wants to come in. There need to be sensible rules, and they need to be enforced. Including deporting people here illegally.
If the tariffs continue, lots of things will become unaffordable for a lot of Americans. Right now, polls have the Dems way ahead. The Dems just won an election in a red district in Georgia for a state representative. Why aren't we discussing those things?
Things indeed look good for Dems right now.
Even the insane gerrymandered redistricting might not help the Republicans much, as there are plenty of people who have said they are voting for Democrats for the first time in their lives. I've met a few and I'm sure there are others. Neither party is perfect. No politician or party will please everyone, but there is one party that is destroying the country and the other is at least trying to save it.
That is a familiar pattern of US politics. As one party wins, they perceive a large mandate, and go overboard. Then voters punish them by voting them out, and the other party misinterprets that as a mandate for radical change in their direction. Like Dems wanting Biden to be the second coming of FDR. Rinse, repeat, except Trump dials everything up to 11.
And, btw, Indiana just rejected Trump's approved voting map, so don't give up hope.
That is indeed a good development. Of course, a sane SCOTUS would have banned partisan gerrymandering, and mandated a non-partisan way to draw districts in all 50 states. Partisan gerrymandering is bad for Democracy whether it happens in Illinois, NY or now in California, or if it does in Texas or Georgia.
 
US retail electricity price:
[electricity chart since the 80s]
Let me post the last 10 years only so things can be seen a bit better.
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First off, these are not seasonally adjusted, and you can see a May-June jump in almost every year, including 2025.
And while the price is rising, due to both general inflation and effect of data center demand, it is rising slower than it was in 2022, a year with a really steep slope. And 19¢/kWh is not "punch in the throat"-like, especially if you see that UK and Germany for example are paying more than twice that.
Suffering just like Aussies are.
Aussies are not that bad off. 0.26USD/kWh is more than us, but far better than 40¢ UK and Germany are paying. Or 44¢ for the Irish.
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US retail electricity price:
[electricity chart since the 80s]
Let me post the last 10 years only so things can be seen a bit better.
View attachment 53011
First off, these are not seasonally adjusted, and you can see a May-June jump in almost every year, including 2025.
No shit; That's obvious on my original graph too.
And while the price is rising, due to both general inflation and effect of data center demand, it is rising slower than it was in 2022, a year with a really steep slope. And 19¢/kWh is not "punch in the throat"-like, especially if you see that UK and Germany for example are paying more than twice that.
They must have a lot more datacentres in the UK and Germany. :rolleyesa:

The recent rise has little to do with datacentres, and a lot to do with intermittent renewables.
 
US retail electricity price:
[electricity chart since the 80s]
Let me post the last 10 years only so things can be seen a bit better.
View attachment 53011
First off, these are not seasonally adjusted, and you can see a May-June jump in almost every year, including 2025.
And while the price is rising, due to both general inflation and effect of data center demand, it is rising slower than it was in 2022, a year with a really steep slope. And 19¢/kWh is not "punch in the throat"-like, especially if you see that UK and Germany for example are paying more than twice that.
Suffering just like Aussies are.
Aussies are not that bad off. 0.26USD/kWh is more than us, but far better than 40¢ UK and Germany are paying. Or 44¢ for the Irish.
ouch-saul-goodman.gif
Just checked my electric bill for the last few of months. The rate seems to vary a little from month to month, but my latest bill showed we're paying 0.45/kWh (more during peak times) in Silicon Valley. In August the peak time rate was 0.60/kWh! That's way off the chart. Talk about ouch. California has the second highest electric rates, behind Hawaii.
 
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Is that the wholesale or retail prices? People know what they are paying.
Wholesale, but what reason you have to believe that the shapes of the curves would be different?
Cuz generally corporations can be greedy bastards. Remember the scandals of some corps, notably Kroger, to raise their prices higher than the inflation rate but used inflation as the excuse for their prices?
 
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