Split New York City Mayoral Race

[lpetrich]

Honestly, I don't know how you sleep at night, worrying about the DSA taking over America (among all your other fears).

There is certainly a clear and present danger of DSA taking over the Democratic Party, similar to how MAGA managed to take over the Republican Party.
The "Mamdani revolution" comes for House Democrats

That would be bad for the Democrats, and even worse for the country.

???

Interviewer: So the third holy grail [sic, I think he meant "third rail"] of taboos in American politics: you have socialism, you have Islam, and then you have Palestine; and you are really going for the trifecta.
Zohran: Let's go baby!
I: Let's go. Tell me, why is Palestine a part of your politics?
Z: As you grow up as someone - especially in the Third World - you have a very different understanding of the Palestinian struggle.

They were not talking about "issues of poverty", just his obsession with the Arab settler colonialist project in the Land of Israel.

What absurd projection. Many right-wingers seem like they work at movie theaters.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Yeah, the Dems have shifted hard to center. Obama, Clinton, Biden were moderates.

Calling to a danger of the Dems being taken over by the DSA based on an election in NYC which has a unique voting electorate is fucking insane.

 

[blastula]

Bedfellowing.

 

[Derec]

Has anyone mentioned that Mamdani is planning on meeting with Trump and Trump agreed to meet with him? According to some of the Trump insiders, Trump has praised Mamdani for his skills to reach out to people and win the mayoral election, despite not liking his policies. Trump is likely jealous of Mamdani.

I think these two men are very similar in many ways. They are both populist hucksters, they both command devotion from their fans, and they are both economic ignorimi ignoramuses, what with freezing rent and tariffs and other nonsense.
No wonder why they get along like a house on fire.

I will never understand the obsession with Mamdani. I don't give a fuck who's the mayor of NYC. I didn't even care when I lived in NJ.

Partly because NYC is so big (more population than all but 12 states, bigger economy than Illinois) but also because Mamdani's victory is biing hailed as a harbinger of change for the Democratic Party overall.

Plus, why care what someone said 10 years ago when they were 18. I was a socialist when I was 18, but then I realized it wasn't practical, so I moved a bit towards the center. 18 year olds aren't mature. They have a lot to learn. If they are open minded and learn a lot more about life etc., they will become more wiser as they age.

Mamdani said the thing about seizing the means of production only a few years ago, when he was already >30 and a state legislator, not a college freshman.

 

[Derec]

Yeah, the Dems have shifted hard to center. Obama, Clinton, Biden were moderates.

After Dukakis, Dems did shift to the center. But by early to mid 2010 things started to shift back, even during Obama's second term. For example, he went from an "all of the above" energy policy to capriciously cancelling the by then almost finished Dakota Access Pipeline just because a few thousand radicals (incidentally including AOC while she was still Barmaid Sandy) camped out on the South Dakotan prairie.

Biden ran as a moderate, but did not govern as such. In office he became Bernie Lite. He caved to the left fringe of the party, esp. on spending issues.

Calling to a danger of the Dems being taken over by the DSA based on an election in NYC which has a unique voting electorate is fucking insane.

It is not just the Mamdani election. It's also DSA types like AOC primarying moderate Dems since at least 2018, and they are planning to do the same for 2026 and beyond.

 

[Derec]

Zohran Mamdani announces all-female transition team as he prepares for New York mayoralty | Zohran Mamdani | The Guardian

Why is he excluding men from transition?

One of the members is making some people react as if they are screaming "KHAAAAAAN!!!"

Khan Noonien Singh is probably her great grandson or something.

"I'm going to be especially focused on things like 'how do we make sure that we have a full accounting of all of the laws and authorities that the mayor can unilaterally deploy,'" Khan said in a clip of a “Pod Save America” podcast interview that’s set to be released next week.

Just like Trump, Mamdani wants to implement his agenda by himself without bothering with pesky checks and balances.
Will Khan be the Bizarro Musk of the Mamdani regime?
More from the article:

Khan has previously voiced concerns that algorithmic pricing — which allows prices to fluctuate based on real-time data on demand, competitors’ prices and personal information — is anticompetitive, price-fixing and an invasion of privacy.

I do not see how dynamic pricing is anticompetitive - quite the opposite. And only the use of customer data is possibly an "invasion of privacy". But I do not see why prices changing in real time to respond to changes in supply and demand is a problem. If the price goes from $20 to $40 for a particular Uber ride because it is busy, some people will take the subway instead, and some Uber drivers will hop onto the platform because they can make more. Without this, there would be shortages and long waits for service during peak times.

I think it should be extended to things like consumer prices for electricity. Have the price of kWh fluctuate by demand. That would help smooth out the demand for electricity by shifting some use to off-peak hours.

New York recently passed legislation regulating the use of algorithmic pricing. One law forces companies like Uber, Lyft and DoorDash to reveal when they use algorithmic pricing.

And what would Khan do concretely to curb this even further?

In her interview with Stewart, Khan cited another law that prohibits landlords from using algorithmic pricing, saying, “We want to make sure that those new laws can be enforced vigorously, too.”

Why should rents not reflect supply and demand?

And while we are on the topic, why are rich New Yorkers like the limousine socialist and Louis Vuitton carpetbagger (the material of his carpet bag looks more like a handmade Persian rug than $.99/sq. ft. beige stuff from Home Depot) Mamdani even eligible for rent controlled apartments?

 

[Derec]

That would be bad for the Democrats, and even worse for the country.

???

I do not understand your confusion. It's a pretty easy to understand English sentence.

They were not talking about "issues of poverty", just his obsession with the Arab settler colonialist project in the Land of Israel.

What absurd projection. Many right-wingers seem like they work at movie theaters.

It's not projection. I even quoted the portion of the interview where Mamdani links "growing up [...] in the Third World" with his attitude toward Israel and "Palestine", and NOT to issues of poverty, as Jimmy claimed.

 

[pood]

Partly because NYC is so big (more population than all but 12 states, bigger economy than Illinois) but also because Mamdani's victory is biing hailed as a harbinger of change for the Democratic Party overall.

Sounds good to me.

Mamdani said the thing about seizing the means of production only a few years ago, when he was already >30 and a state legislator, not a college freshman.

Sounds good to me.

 

[pood]

Zohran Mamdani announces all-female transition team as he prepares for New York mayoralty | Zohran Mamdani | The Guardian

Why is he excluding men from transition?

Sounds good to me.

 

[Derec]

How about addressing Shadowy Msn’s request in post 717 and list the “damage” that the poor table mannered brown-skinned commie embracer of Islamists will cause?

I may not have replied to that post directly, but I have explained it in other posts.
His policies are economically ignorant. Take rent freezes. Price controls disrupt the equilibrium between supply and demand and cause shortages. That's why almost all economists are opposed to freezing rent.
Second, when what landlords can collect is frozen, but expenses increase, landlords will not able to make money without cutting corners. And why should anybody build housing if they can't make a profit due to government meddling?

Btw, why is your Ilk so obsessed with people who are "brown-skinned"? I did not even mention Rafiq Zohran's hue.

 

[Derec]

Why is he excluding men from transition?

Sounds good to me.

Why? Are you admitting to being a misandrist?

Mamdani said the thing about seizing the means of production only a few years ago, when he was already >30 and a state legislator, not a college freshman.

Sounds good to me.

In addition to being a communist.

 

[pood]

Why is he excluding men from transition?

Sounds good to me.

Why? Are you admitting to being a misandrist?

What has this to do with misnandry? Why shouldn’t a transition team be all female? For the majority of our history transition teams and other governmental units have been all male and all white to boot. Don’t like it when the tables are turned, and you lose your unearned privilege?

Mamdani said the thing about seizing the means of production only a few years ago, when he was already >30 and a state legislator, not a college freshman.

Sounds good to me.

In addition to being a communist.

Mamdani is not a communist.

 

[pood]

So, to recap:

An all female staff equals misandry.

But in the past, all male (and white) staffs have NOT equaled misogyny (and racism).

Um, got it.

 

[laughing dog]

How about addressing Shadowy Msn’s request in post 717 and list the “damage” that the poor table mannered brown-skinned commie embracer of Islamists will cause?

I may not have replied to that post directly, but I have explained it in other posts.
His policies are economically ignorant. Take rent freezes. Price controls disrupt the equilibrium between supply and demand and cause shortages. That's why almost all economists are opposed to freezing rent.

As a professional economists, most economists agree that rent controls reduce the amount of rental units in the long run, so there is strong opposition on economic efficiency grounds. But economic efficiency is not the only goal. Once other considerations are taken into account, the opposition is reduced.

Furthermore, there are no politicians who do not promote economically ignorant policies. So it seems rather unrealistic to highlight something that is unavoidable.

Second, when what landlords can collect is frozen, but expenses increase, landlords will not able to make money without cutting corners. And why should anybody build housing if they can't make a profit due to government meddling?

Mamdani is proposing stabilizing rent increases in rent controlled apartments (which are about half of the rental stock in NYC), and the construction of more control-free rental housing. So, there is plenty of opportunity for people to make a profit. So your scenario is based on faulty premises

So, there is only one source of Mandami causing damage?

Btw, why is your Ilk so obsessed with people who are "brown-skinned"? I did not even mention Rafiq Zohran's hue.

What is my "ilk"? You're the one who basically only criticizes brown-skinned people, not me.

 

[laughing dog]

So, to recap:

An all female staff equals misandry.

But in the past, all male (and white) staffs have NOT equaled misogyny (and racism).

Um, got it.

And the rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain!!

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Why is he excluding men from transition?

I thought you guys were claiming his agenda was to make men transition.

 

[Shadowy Man]

How about addressing Shadowy Msn’s request in post 717 and list the “damage” that the poor table mannered brown-skinned commie embracer of Islamists will cause?

I may not have replied to that post directly, but I have explained it in other posts.
His policies are economically ignorant. Take rent freezes. Price controls disrupt the equilibrium between supply and demand and cause shortages. That's why almost all economists are opposed to freezing rent.
Second, when what landlords can collect is frozen, but expenses increase, landlords will not able to make money without cutting corners. And why should anybody build housing if they can't make a profit due to government meddling?

Btw, why is your Ilk so obsessed with people who are "brown-skinned"? I did not even mention Rafiq Zohran's hue.

So here’s the list of predictions I guess:

1) rents will be frozen in NYC
2) NYC landlords will cut corners
3) no more housing will be built in NYC

Now we can wait until several months (?) into Mamdani’s term and get back to this list to see if these hard times have occurred or not.