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Guys, come on, ..Mamdani's an islamist secretly like Obama was a Muslim. You know Mamdani also chose DEI women for his transition team and had a secret gay trans agenda with all his LGBTQ support. He obviously supports the trans gay feminazi Islamist agenda!
I'll say Mamdani has said some things regarding Hamas/Israel that I'm not comfortable with. However, the fear of Mamdani feels quite a bit like how many were shitting their pants over Ocasio-Cortez. Very loud, very disconnected with reality and how our systems of government function.
 
Mamdani has already decided to retain NYC’s polish commish, which proves his pragmatism while angering elements of his base.

There is a public sculpture garden a few blocks from where I live. It has passionate defenders to keep it from being developed. It’s a beautiful oasis. Mamdani has said he intends to turn it into public housing, which pisses me off. There are plenty of other places to develop public housing without taking away public spaces.

Mamdani is a progressive but also a politician. He will carefully advance certain progressive policies along the edges. The idea that he can turn NYC into a Marxist oasis is idiotic.
 
Has anyone mentioned that Mamdani is planning on meeting with Trump and Trump agreed to meet with him? According to some of the Trump insiders, Trump has praised Mamdani for his skills to reach out to people and win the mayoral election, despite not liking his policies. Trump is likely jealous of Mamdani.

I will never understand the obsession with Mamdani. I don't give a fuck who's the mayor of NYC. I didn't even care when I lived in NJ. People in NJ usually only care about the politicians and laws in NJ. In fact, at least historically, NYC has bashed NJ and NJ residents hated the way they were treated by NYC residents. Of course, lots of New Yorkers move to NJ because despite it being very expensive, it's still cheaper compared to NYC. When we lived briefly in Indy, I asked my new friends if they were influence by or cared who the mayor of NYC was and they all said "No". Plus, why care what someone said 10 years ago when they were 18. I was a socialist when I was 18, but then I realized it wasn't practical, so I moved a bit towards the center. 18 year olds aren't mature. They have a lot to learn. If they are open minded and learn a lot more about life etc., they will become more wiser as they age.

Mandami has said he wants to meet with Trump to help Trump understand the need to help the city become more affordable and ask him not to cut off funds to the city. Good luck with that. Maybe if he tells Trump that he doesn't have a small penis, it will work. ;)
 
Guys, come on, ..Mamdani's an islamist secretly like Obama was a Muslim. You know Mamdani also chose DEI women for his transition team and had a secret gay trans agenda with all his LGBTQ support. He obviously supports the trans gay feminazi Islamist agenda!
I'll say Mamdani has said some things regarding Hamas/Israel that I'm not comfortable with. However, the fear of Mamdani feels quite a bit like how many were shitting their pants over Ocasio-Cortez. Very loud, very disconnected with reality and how our systems of government function.

Honestly, I don't know much about Mamdani and people on the Right who do get their news from particular sources that are going to try to make him look bad. Anything Mamdani said PRIOR to Oct 7th attacks in support of Gaza and against Israeli government occupation can misleadingly be called "supporting Hamas" and when you couple that with quote-mines out of context and phrases containing "..." he can be made to look like Hitler. So, it is fair to be skeptical of these types of negative attack ads and to try to independently look for his stances and their context.

Here's an example:

“Two years ago today, Hamas carried out a horrific war crime, killing more than 1,100 Israelis and kidnapping 250 more. I mourn these lives and pray for the safe return of every hostage still held and for every family whose lives were torn apart by these atrocities,” Mamdani said.

In the statement, Mamdani said the US government had been “complicit” in what he described as “genocidal war” and called for the conflict to end.

“A death toll that now far exceeds 67,000; with the Israeli military bombing homes, hospitals, and schools into rubble,” Mamdani said. “Every day in Gaza has become a place where grief itself has run out of language. I mourn these lives and pray for the families that have been shattered.”

Mamdani’s statement drew a sharp rebuke from the Israeli Foreign Ministry, which reposted Mamdani’s statement on X and accused him of “acting as a mouthpiece for Hamas propaganda.”

Mamdani also said Hamas should disarm. He has also said that Israel has a right to exist as a state that provides equal rights and has been critical of it, calling it apartheid.

In other words, much of what what he has said can be found among many posters in our own Gaza thread here--the one where Derec used this tragedy as a propagandized attack toward Democrats. And various posters on the Right have accused people in the thread of anti-semitism, even some people who are of Jewish descent, which those critics might not even realize, but those Right-wing critics go on to use tropes like "self-hating Jew" to describe any Jew who opposes their precise worldview on Israel.

We see how they conflate things over and over again in the same context as above. But we're supposed to take their words on Mamdani now...They've lost credibility with me.
 
Guys, come on, ..Mamdani's an islamist secretly like Obama was a Muslim. You know Mamdani also chose DEI women for his transition team and had a secret gay trans agenda with all his LGBTQ support. He obviously supports the trans gay feminazi Islamist agenda!
I'll say Mamdani has said some things regarding Hamas/Israel that I'm not comfortable with. However, the fear of Mamdani feels quite a bit like how many were shitting their pants over Ocasio-Cortez. Very loud, very disconnected with reality and how our systems of government function.

Honestly, I don't know much about Mamdani and people on the Right who do get their news from particular sources that are going to try to make him look bad. Anything Mamdani said PRIOR to Oct 7th attacks in support of Gaza and against Israeli government occupation can misleadingly be called "supporting Hamas" and when you couple that with quote-mines out of context and phrases containing "..." he can be made to look like Hitler. So, it is fair to be skeptical of these types of negative attack ads and to try to independently look for his stances and their context.

Here's an example:

“Two years ago today, Hamas carried out a horrific war crime, killing more than 1,100 Israelis and kidnapping 250 more. I mourn these lives and pray for the safe return of every hostage still held and for every family whose lives were torn apart by these atrocities,” Mamdani said.

In the statement, Mamdani said the US government had been “complicit” in what he described as “genocidal war” and called for the conflict to end.

“A death toll that now far exceeds 67,000; with the Israeli military bombing homes, hospitals, and schools into rubble,” Mamdani said. “Every day in Gaza has become a place where grief itself has run out of language. I mourn these lives and pray for the families that have been shattered.”

Mamdani’s statement drew a sharp rebuke from the Israeli Foreign Ministry, which reposted Mamdani’s statement on X and accused him of “acting as a mouthpiece for Hamas propaganda.”

Mamdani also said Hamas should disarm. He has also said that Israel has a right to exist as a state that provides equal rights and has been critical of it, calling it apartheid.

In other words, much of what what he has said can be found among many posters in our own Gaza thread here--the one where Derec used this tragedy as a propagandized attack toward Democrats. And various posters on the Right have accused people in the thread of anti-semitism, even some people who are of Jewish descent, which those critics might not even realize, but those Right-wing critics go on to use tropes like "self-hating Jew" to describe any Jew who opposes their precise worldview on Israel.

We see how they conflate things over and over again in the same context as above. But we're supposed to take their words on Mamdani now...They've lost credibility with me.
If criticizing an ethnostate makes someone anti the ethnicity of the ethnostate, that's a tacit admission that they want an ethnostate, and that they see ethnostates as self-love which they encouraged.

If this is something someone uses to criticize others, that they reject ethnostates, then they have told us that they are a fascist themselves expressing interest in an ethnostate.
 
Mamdani’s statement drew a sharp rebuke from the Israeli Foreign Ministry
Well, duh. That's their job. When a politician from a foreign country criticises your country, your Foreign Ministry is supposed to issue a sharp rebuke.

And the job of the US State Department* is to respond by pointing out that US Citizens have a constitutional right to say any crazy shit they want, and that the Mayor of NYC, despite being a powerful politician, does not and cannot speak for the USA.

The idea that this formal exchange of diplomatic complaints and rebuttals to them is somehow important or newsworthy is bizarre. It would be news if it didn't happen: "Mamdani’s statement drew a positive response from the Israeli Foreign Ministry, who said that Israel had indeed been complicit in genocide, and promised to try to do better in future". Now that would be news ;)








* "Department of State" is a really stupid and misleading name for a Foreign Ministry.
 
Zohran Mamdani announces all-female transition team as he prepares for New York mayoralty | Zohran Mamdani | The Guardian
Speaking at a morning press conference in Queens, the 34-year-old democratic socialist revealed an all-female transition team led by Elana Leopold as executive director. It also includes co-chairs Maria Torres-Springer, the former first deputy mayor; Lina Khan, the former federal trade commission chair; the United Way’s president and CEO, Grace Bonilla; and the former deputy mayor for health and human services Melanie Hartzog.
One of the members is making some people react as if they are screaming "KHAAAAAAN!!!"

Mamdani’s appointment of Lina Khan a warning to private equity, experts say | New York | The Guardian - "Ex-FTC chair was among first to go after practice of folding local firms into larger ones leading to higher prices"
Throughout the US, private equity has increasingly monopolized industries through the practice of “roll-ups”, acquiring many small local firms and rolling them into one larger firm, giving them power to simultaneously raise prices and lower quality.

This practice is especially problematic in healthcare industries, where private equity involvement has been linked to worse health outcomes, including death.

Serving as FTC chair under Biden, Khan was among the first to aggressively go after this practice on the national level, said Martin Kenney, distinguished professor at the department of human ecology at the University of California, Davis, and author of Private Equity and the Demise of the Local.

The trustbuster advising Mamdani who could bring aggressive approach to affordability - Gothamist
Mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani has a potentially powerful tool in executing his affordability agenda: the woman who went after junk fees and stopped megamergers as one of President Joe Biden’s top consumer watchdogs.

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"I'm going to be especially focused on things like 'how do we make sure that we have a full accounting of all of the laws and authorities that the mayor can unilaterally deploy,'" Khan said in a clip of a “Pod Save America” podcast interview that’s set to be released next week.

Under her direction, the FTC, which is tasked with protecting the public from deceptive or unfair business practices, effectively blocked a nearly $25 billion merger between two grocery giants that it said would have raised prices and harmed labor markets. It also banned junk fees for concerts and hotels, a key Biden initiative, and capped prices on asthma inhalers, among other actions.

Wealthy New Yorkers Reportedly 'Looking For Therapy' After Zohran Mamdani Taps Former FTC Chair Lena Khan As His Transition Team Co-Chair Also some sore-throat medicine?
 
Being Polish on both sides, I”M the Polish commish of NYC. :)
He didn’t say Polish, he said polish. He’s retaining the polish commissioner.

shopping
 
I'm watching Trump and Mamdani right now on tv. Mamdani is doing a great job of getting Trump to act as if he cares about anything other than himself. Trump is saying he agrees with Mamdani on a lot of things. I have to give Mamdani credit to be able to get Trump act this way, even if it's all a show. Trump is almost praising Mamdani. He just said he would feel comfortable living in New York with Mamdani as mayor. He said they have a lot in common. Wow! Just wow! He hasn't even called Mamdani any bad names.
 
OMG! Trump just said that he thinks Mamdani will do a great job of leading NYC if everyone helps him and gives him a chance. They just shook hands. Mamdani just said that more New Yorkers voted for Trump in the more recent election after being asked by a reporter if New York City likes Trump. Wow. Mamdani is amazing.
 
Trump praised Mamdani again by saying Mamdani could be a spectacular success in NYC. Mamdani said he would focus on serious crime and retain the same number of police officers as they have now. I had already read that in the NYT. Trump keeps praising Mamdani. Of course, we don't know if he will change what he said tomorrow. Who knows!
 
OMG! Trump just said that he thinks Mamdani will do a great job of leading NYC if everyone helps him and gives him a chance. They just shook hands. Mamdani just said that more New Yorkers voted for Trump in the more recent election after being asked by a reporter if New York City likes Trump. Wow. Mamdani is amazing.
Just wait until Trump sees Derec’s list of all the bad things about to come to NYC. Then he will change his tune.
 
Their constitution is that short?
I did not say it was that short. I quoted the bits relevant to DSA being "big S" Socialists.
Not quite big 'S'.
Why do you say that? The parts I quoted define them as "big S" Socialists, and nothing else in that document contradicts that.
Honestly, I don't know how you sleep at night, worrying about the DSA taking over America (among all your other fears).
There is certainly a clear and present danger of DSA taking over the Democratic Party, similar to how MAGA managed to take over the Republican Party.
The "Mamdani revolution" comes for House Democrats

That would be bad for the Democrats, and even worse for the country.

He qualified that means of production statement, though I have no idea what he meant by it.
How did he qualify it? There is nothing in that speech that qualifies the "end goal of seizing the means of production" statement. The closest he comes to qualifying it is saying that they do not have popular support to implement this, but it is clear that it remains Comrade Cardamom's end goal.
If you have no idea what he means by it, why are you resisting the interpretation that he means exactly what he says?
You are trailing into xenophobia at this moment, which is odd because you ain't a naturally born American yourself.
Have you ever considered that it is precisely because I am not foreign born that I am able to see through Zohran's bullshit? Pointing out that his core identity is Indian and Ugandan, not American is not "xenophobia". Criticizing him for his politics being shaped by Third World politics is not "xenophobia". Note, I am not saying that this applies to every foreign-born politician (The Governator is a good counterexample), but it does apply to Rafiq Zohran.

I'm not certain you understood what he means by that. Lots of inequity in the third world. Seeing that makes one appreciate the issues of poverty more.
I don't think you understood what he meant by that. He did explain it in his nekulturny rice eating interview - it's the trifecta of socialism, Islam and "Palestine".
An excerpt:
Uncivilized Media said:
Interviewer: So the third holy grail [sic, I think he meant "third rail"] of taboos in American politics: you have socialism, you have Islam, and then you have Palestine; and you are really going for the trifecta.
Zohran: Let's go baby!
I: Let's go. Tell me, why is Palestine a part of your politics?
Z: As you grow up as someone - especially in the Third World - you have a very different understanding of the Palestinian struggle.
They were not talking about "issues of poverty", just his obsession with the Arab settler colonialist project in the Land of Israel.
He goes on waxing poetic about wearing the keffiyeh in South Africa and BS like that.
Here is the deal, as I've already stated, NYC is the capitalism hub of the planet. If Mamdani has delusions of seizing property, that is not going to happen.
Hopefully he will fail. But I think that he will try. This is how I think it will happen. He will use his power to stack the Rent Stabilization Board with loyalists who will freeze the rent indefinitely. But landlord expenses will rise, especially if he manages to hike taxes. That will make it difficult for landlords to afford making necessary repairs, which he will use as an excuse to expropriate the landlords, as the threatens here.
It is one thing to say stuff on Youtube and in speeches. It is a completely different thing to govern. Radicalism is not going to happen in NYC.
Weren't we told a similar thing about Trump's rhetoric?
He lacks the money and power to enact that stuff, and unlike Trump who has a GOP in Congress willing to look the other way and justices on the SCOTUS bench to enable his unconstitutional actions, there is a NY Governor and a massive wall of money on Wall Street that'll smack back at any exceessive nonsense that might come from City Hall.
I don't think he will get any pushback from the City Council.
As far as Albany, had he gotten ~40% instead of just over 50%, they would be more inclined to resist. I fear Hochul and the legislators will cave, especially as DSA threatens primary challenges for anybody who does not submit to Dear Leader's demands.

Liberal pols, DSA warn Gov. Kathy Hochul to back Zohran Mamdani’s agenda – or get booted from office: ‘Third strike, you’re out!’

You need to take a deep breath and relax. Mamdani isn't going to be big S'ing anything in NYC or the US. There simply isn't the stomach for it among the powers that be and electorate
We shall see. In any case, it does not mean that he will not try, and that he won't do a lot of damage to NYC trying. Just look at Trump.
 
I'll say Mamdani has said some things regarding Hamas/Israel that I'm not comfortable with. However, the fear of Mamdani feels quite a bit like how many were shitting their pants over Ocasio-Cortez. Very loud, very disconnected with reality and how our systems of government function.
Nobody was "shitting their pants" over AOC, although lpetrich might have done something else in his pants.

At least not on this forum. I for one was merely criticizing her where I saw fit, and I also counteracted the fawning over her in the media and on here. I think all us understand how our systems of government function, but what exactly is your point here? That a congresswoman and a mayor, even of the largest city in the US, have limited power? Sure, but their ascendancies are also going to influence how the Democratic Party evolves in the near future. And AOC herself will probably primary Schumer in 2028.
 
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