Why is God at war with it's creation?

[Ford]

Nobody.

You and Koko are closely related. You share over 99 percent of your DNA with Koko.

ape and human are not the same thing, human can go to mars, ape may not know his own existence

Humans have not gone to Mars.

Chimpanzees got to earth orbit before humans did. And dogs got there even before the chimps.

you both wrong

Okay. I'm going to try speaking to you in broken English, then.


Humans sent chimp to space before human. No human gone to Mars. Explain how wrong.

 

[DBT]

Not all are poor people, some people are rich. Some are very, very rich, so they can have practically anything they want, yet they still do evil.

if there is a problem god will take care of it

You miss the point.

1-There are rich people who do evil.
2- There are rich people who avoid doing evil, who are basically decent.
3-There are poor people who do evil.
4-There are poor people who avoid doing evil, do not steal and are basically decent.

5- You said that people have 'free will' and that not having their needs provided for causes people to do evil.

6 - Your claim is false for reasons 1 - 4 .

''human will have free will in heaven but we wont have reasons to do evil, god will provide all our NEEDS which cause us to do evil'' - Syed.

if there is a problem god will take care of it

What sort of problem? For reasons 1-4, it is not necessarily the external conditions that makes a person 'good' or 'evil' but a combination of genes and environment.

 

[Syed]

Nobody.

You and Koko are closely related. You share over 99 percent of your DNA with Koko.

ape and human are not the same thing, human can go to mars, ape may not know his own existence

Humans have not gone to Mars.

Chimpanzees got to earth orbit before humans did. And dogs got there even before the chimps.

you both wrong

Okay. I'm going to try speaking to you in broken English, then.


Humans sent chimp to space before human. No human gone to Mars. Explain how wrong.

i said human CAN go to mars

ape cant , ape cant make their own rocket

 

[Ford]

Nobody.

You and Koko are closely related. You share over 99 percent of your DNA with Koko.

ape and human are not the same thing, human can go to mars, ape may not know his own existence

Humans have not gone to Mars.

Chimpanzees got to earth orbit before humans did. And dogs got there even before the chimps.

you both wrong

Okay. I'm going to try speaking to you in broken English, then.


Humans sent chimp to space before human. No human gone to Mars. Explain how wrong.

i said human CAN go to mars

ape cant , ape cant make their own rocket

We're apes.

 

[Syed]

Nobody.

You and Koko are closely related. You share over 99 percent of your DNA with Koko.

ape and human are not the same thing, human can go to mars, ape may not know his own existence

Humans have not gone to Mars.

Chimpanzees got to earth orbit before humans did. And dogs got there even before the chimps.

you both wrong

Okay. I'm going to try speaking to you in broken English, then.


Humans sent chimp to space before human. No human gone to Mars. Explain how wrong.

i said human CAN go to mars

ape cant , ape cant make their own rocket

We're apes.

you can call your self monkey or dog or rat, i respect your freedom of speech

 

[bilby]

Nobody.

You and Koko are closely related. You share over 99 percent of your DNA with Koko.

ape and human are not the same thing, human can go to mars, ape may not know his own existence

Humans have not gone to Mars.

Chimpanzees got to earth orbit before humans did. And dogs got there even before the chimps.

you both wrong

Okay. I'm going to try speaking to you in broken English, then.


Humans sent chimp to space before human. No human gone to Mars. Explain how wrong.

i said human CAN go to mars

ape cant , ape cant make their own rocket

We're apes.

you can call your self monkey or dog or rat, i respect your freedom of speech

You can pretend that you are not an ape, but I won't respect your willful ignorance.

 

[DBT]

if there is a problem god will take care of it

You miss the point.

1-There are rich people who do evil.
2- There are rich people who avoid doing evil, who are basically decent.
3-There are poor people who do evil.
4-There are poor people who avoid doing evil, do not steal and are basically decent.

5- You said that people have 'free will' and that not having their needs provided for causes people to do evil.

6 - Your claim is false for reasons 1 - 4 .

''human will have free will in heaven but we wont have reasons to do evil, god will provide all our NEEDS which cause us to do evil'' - Syed.

if there is a problem god will take care of it

What sort of problem? For reasons 1-4, it is not necessarily the external conditions that makes a person 'good' or 'evil' but a combination of genes and environment.

No comment on this, Syed?

 

[Syed]

if there is a problem god will take care of it

You miss the point.

1-There are rich people who do evil.
2- There are rich people who avoid doing evil, who are basically decent.
3-There are poor people who do evil.
4-There are poor people who avoid doing evil, do not steal and are basically decent.

5- You said that people have 'free will' and that not having their needs provided for causes people to do evil.

6 - Your claim is false for reasons 1 - 4 .

''human will have free will in heaven but we wont have reasons to do evil, god will provide all our NEEDS which cause us to do evil'' - Syed.

if there is a problem god will take care of it

What sort of problem? For reasons 1-4, it is not necessarily the external conditions that makes a person 'good' or 'evil' but a combination of genes and environment.

like i said before '' if there is a problem god will take care of it ''

in heaven god will provide every thing human's NEEDS so there no reasons to kill, lie, steal, etc

in heaven there is NO DEATH so you cant kill

if somebody did crime of passion they will be punish and release

in heaven you cant get away from crime

 

[Syed]

Nobody.

You and Koko are closely related. You share over 99 percent of your DNA with Koko.

ape and human are not the same thing, human can go to mars, ape may not know his own existence

Humans have not gone to Mars.

Chimpanzees got to earth orbit before humans did. And dogs got there even before the chimps.

you both wrong

Okay. I'm going to try speaking to you in broken English, then.


Humans sent chimp to space before human. No human gone to Mars. Explain how wrong.

i said human CAN go to mars

ape cant , ape cant make their own rocket

We're apes.

you can call your self monkey or dog or rat, i respect your freedom of speech

You can pretend that you are not an ape, but I won't respect your willful ignorance.

if i said to you on the street that hey ape where are you going? would that make you angry ?

 

[Methinx]

"The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye. The more light you shine on it, the more it will contract."
(Oliver Wendell Holmes)

 

[another1]

You miss the point.

1-There are rich people who do evil.
2- There are rich people who avoid doing evil, who are basically decent.
3-There are poor people who do evil.
4-There are poor people who avoid doing evil, do not steal and are basically decent.

5- You said that people have 'free will' and that not having their needs provided for causes people to do evil.

6 - Your claim is false for reasons 1 - 4 .

''human will have free will in heaven but we wont have reasons to do evil, god will provide all our NEEDS which cause us to do evil'' - Syed.

if there is a problem god will take care of it

What sort of problem? For reasons 1-4, it is not necessarily the external conditions that makes a person 'good' or 'evil' but a combination of genes and environment.

like i said before '' if there is a problem god will take care of it ''

in heaven god will provide every thing human's NEEDS so there no reasons to kill, lie, steal, etc

in heaven there is NO DEATH so you cant kill

if somebody did crime of passion they will be punish and release

in heaven you cant get away from crime

Everyone has a different idea of bliss, and supposing "there is NO DEATH so you cant kill"... that would make some people frustrated in Heaven. What if a man who loves stabbing people accepts God and ends up in Heaven on the same day you do? Would you stand there and feel no pain while he chipped at your shoulder blade with a little lock blade? Over and over, just to hear the sound. I mean... you're both saved and in Heaven - and you CAN'T DIE.

Would it even be a crime to stab you in Heaven, considering there is NO DEATH? What about stabbing some Angels? "In Heaven god will provide every thing human's NEEDS", so what about the people who need violence? God knows there are many of them and God knows it isn't their fault.

What sort of scene should I be expecting in Heaven? Should I be worried? How delirious would I have to be, to enjoy sharing Heaven with the stabby people? Would I really feel no pain? Hell, my pain is 90% of what I am. Does that mean 10% of me actually goes to Heaven? What percentage would go to hell, assuming I start sinning without constant repentance again? I'm worried Syed because I don't want to get stuck with a bunch of wackos up there. I don't want to be stabbed, even if there is no pain or wound. It just doesn't sound like something I'd be into.

 

[atrib]

So if God kills to remove Evil from the Earth, but mankind is inherently a source of Evil, god's killing is kind of pointless incompetence, what?

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do scientist believe that ape, chimp will learn to speak language and write like human?

Have you ever heard from the scientists working with, say, Koko?

if you give koko trillions trillions years he wont talk, he NEED talking software in his brain that would gave him ability to talk

god put software in human brain

Wrong. Koko likely doesn't have the hardware (brain) necessary to formulate and communicate complex, abstract ideas like humans do. Koko also does not have the necessary hardware to vocalize many of the sounds that human voiceboxes can produce. But Koko has been taught to communicate basic ideas and needs with humans, which is somewhat similar to writing software to utilize the capacity of the hardware he does possess.

Speaking of which, why the fuck is your software so broken if your god programmed it? Why is it that your communication appears to stem from a child, and not a particularly bright child at that? Why did god fuck up your software?

 

[atrib]

syed
what is the reason ape, chimp didn't learn to speak language and write like human?

Ford
Give 'em a few hundred million years and see what they accomplish.

do scientist believe that ape, chimp will learn to speak language and write like human?

We don't know. As others have pointed out, we've had some success teaching a gorilla to use sign language (a human invention) but apes are physically unable to speak human language. Will they evolve the ability? We don't know. That's why I said to give them a couple hundred million years and see what happens. :

aren't gorilla our prime mate, dont we have common ancestry, parents ?

why they stay retarded ?

Why do you appear to be retarded if you have been programmed by your god? Why are you seemingly incapable of grasping simple ideas or putting together simple sentences to express yourself?

 

[Keith&Co.]

you can call your self monkey or dog or rat, i respect your freedom of speech

It's odd, how good your English gets when you're expressing your most retarded ideas...

 

[bilby]

Nobody.

You and Koko are closely related. You share over 99 percent of your DNA with Koko.

ape and human are not the same thing, human can go to mars, ape may not know his own existence

Humans have not gone to Mars.

Chimpanzees got to earth orbit before humans did. And dogs got there even before the chimps.

you both wrong

Okay. I'm going to try speaking to you in broken English, then.


Humans sent chimp to space before human. No human gone to Mars. Explain how wrong.

i said human CAN go to mars

ape cant , ape cant make their own rocket

We're apes.

you can call your self monkey or dog or rat, i respect your freedom of speech

You can pretend that you are not an ape, but I won't respect your willful ignorance.

if i said to you on the street that hey ape where are you going? would that make you angry ?

No more so than if you simply said 'hey, where are you going'. The answer would be 'none of your business', unless you were someone I know. If I saw someone I know, and he asked me 'hey, ape, where are you going', I wouldn't be even slightly put out. Most of my mates would have said 'hey, cunt, where the fuck are you going' though - insults work differently in Australia than they do in the majority of the English speaking world.

 

[atrib]

Nobody.

You and Koko are closely related. You share over 99 percent of your DNA with Koko.

ape and human are not the same thing, human can go to mars, ape may not know his own existence

Humans have not gone to Mars.

Chimpanzees got to earth orbit before humans did. And dogs got there even before the chimps.

you both wrong

Okay. I'm going to try speaking to you in broken English, then.


Humans sent chimp to space before human. No human gone to Mars. Explain how wrong.

i said human CAN go to mars

ape cant , ape cant make their own rocket

Humans are apes. More specifically, humans are great apes.

From Wiki:

The Hominidae (/hɒˈmɪnᵻdiː/), whose members are known as great apes[note 1] or hominids, are a taxonomic family of primates that includes seven extant species in four genera: Pongo, the Bornean and Sumatran orangutan; Gorilla, the eastern and western gorilla; Pan, the common chimpanzee and the bonobo; and Homo, the human (and though not extant, the near-human ancestors and relatives (e.g., the Neanderthal)).[1]

Humans make rocket. which means apes make rocket. Syed wrong again.

 

[C_Mucius_Scaevola]

So if God kills to remove Evil from the Earth, but mankind is inherently a source of Evil, god's killing is kind of pointless incompetence, what?

- - - Updated - - -

do scientist believe that ape, chimp will learn to speak language and write like human?

Have you ever heard from the scientists working with, say, Koko?

if you give koko trillions trillions years he wont talk, he NEED talking software in his brain that would gave him ability to talk

god put software in human brain

Actually Koko has the "software" to talk. What gorillas need to talk with a voice is a vocal cord like ours.

talking software in koko brain but not vocal cord makes no sense

who wrote koko talking software but forgot to gave him vocal cord?

It makes perfect sense if you accept evolution as a fact (which it is) and understand that evolution does not produce perfect, predictable results. Nobody "forgot" to give apes vocal chords either. They have them (apes make noise) but not ones that work like ours.

Since you seem to be stuck on this stupid idea of software, perhaps it would help to explain it in software terms.

i believe human have thousand of software one for talking, one for walking, one for seeing, one for hearing, one for writing

who wrote them ?

You and Koko are closely related. You share over 99 percent of your DNA with Koko.

ape and human are not the same thing, human can go to mars, ape may not know his own existence

Ape most certainly do know his own existence.

The "Great Apes" - humans gorillas, chimpanzees, orangutans, bonobos - are all self-aware, as are dolphins, elephants and magpies, as shown by the "mirror test". Other animals may well be too; tests on non-visual stimuli show individuation and a degree of self-awareness in, for example, dogs.

 

[DrZoidberg]

Having a converse with Syed. He feels, as do many, that we and everything in the universe are simply part of God. (His plan, creation, etc.) If that is the case, then the question remains...Why is God (all parts) at war with some of his other parts? If God created evil, as well as the good, why does God feel there is value in having the two sides fight one another, instead of simply taking care of the problem by another means.

Didn't you just describe Pantheism? If I understand Abrahamic theology God is separate from the creation.

On a side-note, Panteheism is pretty pointless, since it's in practice atheism.

 

[Syed]

So if God kills to remove Evil from the Earth, but mankind is inherently a source of Evil, god's killing is kind of pointless incompetence, what?

- - - Updated - - -

do scientist believe that ape, chimp will learn to speak language and write like human?

Have you ever heard from the scientists working with, say, Koko?

if you give koko trillions trillions years he wont talk, he NEED talking software in his brain that would gave him ability to talk

god put software in human brain

Actually Koko has the "software" to talk. What gorillas need to talk with a voice is a vocal cord like ours.

talking software in koko brain but not vocal cord makes no sense

who wrote koko talking software but forgot to gave him vocal cord?

It makes perfect sense if you accept evolution as a fact (which it is) and understand that evolution does not produce perfect, predictable results. Nobody "forgot" to give apes vocal chords either. They have them (apes make noise) but not ones that work like ours.

Since you seem to be stuck on this stupid idea of software, perhaps it would help to explain it in software terms.

i believe human have thousand of software one for talking, one for walking, one for seeing, one for hearing, one for writing

who wrote them ?

You and Koko are closely related. You share over 99 percent of your DNA with Koko.

ape and human are not the same thing, human can go to mars, ape may not know his own existence

Ape most certainly do know his own existence.

The "Great Apes" - humans gorillas, chimpanzees, orangutans, bonobos - are all self-aware, as are dolphins, elephants and magpies, as shown by the "mirror test". Other animals may well be too; tests on non-visual stimuli show individuation and a degree of self-awareness in, for example, dogs.

do you think great apes, gorillas, chimpanzees, orangutans, bonobos knows that human are prime mates ? and their home on planet earth?

 

[Syed]

Nobody.

You and Koko are closely related. You share over 99 percent of your DNA with Koko.

ape and human are not the same thing, human can go to mars, ape may not know his own existence

Humans have not gone to Mars.

Chimpanzees got to earth orbit before humans did. And dogs got there even before the chimps.

you both wrong

Okay. I'm going to try speaking to you in broken English, then.


Humans sent chimp to space before human. No human gone to Mars. Explain how wrong.

i said human CAN go to mars

ape cant , ape cant make their own rocket

Humans are apes. More specifically, humans are great apes.

From Wiki:

The Hominidae (/hɒˈmɪnᵻdiː/), whose members are known as great apes[note 1] or hominids, are a taxonomic family of primates that includes seven extant species in four genera: Pongo, the Bornean and Sumatran orangutan; Gorilla, the eastern and western gorilla; Pan, the common chimpanzee and the bonobo; and Homo, the human (and though not extant, the near-human ancestors and relatives (e.g., the Neanderthal)).[1]

Humans make rocket. which means apes make rocket. Syed wrong again.

human makes rocket therefore astrib makes rockets