Why are people claiming there was no voting fraud?

[Wiploc]

I don't understand it.

Voter fraud is a big and constant problem, even when we win. It didn't happen to swing the election this time, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

If we claim it's a problem when we lose but not a problem when we win, then we'll look like partizan liars.

Every time a Republican-dominated legislature tries to make voting harder for blacks (or whoever), and claims their motive is to protect the integrity of elections, they are engaged in voter fraud.

We shouldn't sweep that under the rug just because we won this time. We should respond to Republican claims of voter fraud by pointing out that, by and large, Republicans are the ones who are actually guilty of it.

 

[Shadowy Man]

Voter fraud is not a widespread problem. Voter suppression is.

If voter fraud could really swing elections, Republicans would already have figured out how to do it.

Democrats win by getting people to the polls. Republicans win by keeping them away.

Even Trump admitted that if more people voted then Republicans would stop winning. One of the very rare instances of him telling the truth.

 

[repoman]

Above board voter suppression is "Fuck you! What are you gonna do about, bitch?" Not fraud.

However, it would give very heavy moral justification to under the table redistributive "fraud" in the legal but not ethical sense for the suppressed side.

As in typical measures like ballot stuffing and harvesting and so on. Would it have been immoral to commit voter fraud against Trump? I think not.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Why are people claiming there was no voting fraud?

Who is claiming NO voter fraud?
We saw voter fraud all over the place. And we saw fraudulent voters getting caught and prosecuted.
What we are not seeing, what we are denying, is widespread, organized voter fraud in sufficient numbers to change the results of the presidential election. That's a chimera Trump's flogging.

 

[ideologyhunter]

It's amazing that the Republican establishment is willing to toss out democracy to stay in power. I knew I despised their social philosophy, didn't believe in their economic policies, thought their attempt to nation-build in the Mideast was lunacy, and of course knew they were practicing vote suppression since the 90s (at least.) But what they've done this year, no -- didn't see that coming.
Never forget, never forgive, keep stating the facts. This is a corrupt, authoritarian, anti-American bunch.

 

[Wiploc]

Above board voter suppression is "Fuck you! What are you gonna do about, bitch?" Not fraud.

It's not aboveboard. They almost always lie about their motives. It is obvious fraud.

 

[Rhea]

Above board voter suppression is "Fuck you! What are you gonna do about, bitch?" Not fraud.

It's not aboveboard. They almost always lie about their motives. It is obvious fraud.

I think the disctinction is that there were no (widespread) fraudulent votes”

There was “fraudulent” voter suppression. (I’d call it “illegal” instead.)

 

[Elixir]

The Lt Governor of PA was on TV this AM strongly advocating for an investigation into fraud in the Presidential election:
"I want to know HOW Trump locked up ONE HUNDRED PERCENT of the dead mother vote in my State!"

I think Democrats should be loudly demanding full investigations. Seriously. In every State. Especially Texas and Florida.

 

[TomC]

Why are people claiming there was no voting fraud?

Who is claiming NO voter fraud?
We saw voter fraud all over the place. And we saw fraudulent voters getting caught and prosecuted.
What we are not seeing, what we are denying, is widespread, organized voter fraud in sufficient numbers to change the results of the presidential election. That's a chimera Trump's flogging.

Yep.
150,000,000 votes in a highly charged election. Of course there were some illegal votes.

But the Republicans have a track record of voter fraud. The Democrats failed abysmally at taking control of Capitol Hill.

Claiming that Biden won the White House due to voter fraud is ridiculous. That isn't the same as "no voter fraud". More plausible is "voter fraud didn't work for Republicans as well as it did in 2000 or 2016."
Tom

 

[Keith&Co.]

Pretty much, tjough i think more accurate would b

More plausible is "voter fraud didn't work for Republicans as well as it did in 2000 or 2016."

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

The Lt Governor of PA was on TV this AM strongly advocating for an investigation into fraud in the Presidential election:
"I want to know HOW Trump locked up ONE HUNDRED PERCENT of the dead mother vote in my State!"

I think Democrats should be loudly demanding full investigations. Seriously. In every State. Especially Texas and Florida.

That guy rocks. He doesn't pull punches. just puts it out there.

 

[Toni]

Almost every documented case of ineligible voters voting involves a formerly invertebrates person who does notrealizetheirvoting rights have not been restored. They receive inadequate education upon being released. It’s further complicated by the fact that the eligibility to vote of former felons Is determined by individual states so it varies from state to state.

 

[Toni]

Almost every documented case of ineligible voters voting involves a formerly invertebrates person who does notrealizetheirvoting rights have not been restored. They receive inadequate education upon being released. It’s further complicated by the fact that the eligibility to vote of former felons Is determined by individual states so it varies from state to state.

YIKES: stupid auto correct
Formerly incarcerated individual who does not realize their voting rights have not been restored. They receive inadequate education upon being released. It's further complicated by the fact that the eligibility to vote of former felons is determined by individual states so it varies from state to state. The advice you got from your cousin's friend who did time upstate may not apply in your state.