What's the difference between a Christian Afterlife and Alien Abduction?

[T.G.G. Moogly]

When Christians die they suddenly, magically end up with a powerful alien creature that lives somewhere. It's all automatic and cannot be controlled so away they go. The only reason the christian humans are here is because this same celestial creature put them here, along with a bit of that ethereal substance they call their soul, the part that gets abducted and reunited with the alien creature. And for some christian humans the body eventually also gets abducted, though none of them are certain exactly how this works, only that it does.

How is this not just another form of Alien Abduction? It cannot be stopped, and this celestial judge is going to either make them all happy or have them live with another alien creature where they will be unhappy. So it's really just aliens all the way down.

So is it much of a stretch to call this alien abduction?

 

[Tom Sawyer]

The difference is that with alien abduction, the anal probing is done for research purposes. With the Christian afterlife, it's done because Catholic priests run the place.

 

[abaddon]

Getting taken to heaven is the most desirable thing a substance-dualist could want, and the other is close to the opposite. It's like comparing the angelic against the demonic, so there's a universe of difference.

We want to be immortal, and it seems plausible because "we", when framed as being foremost our minds, feel distinctly different from our bodies.

In sleep paralysis, you're stuck inside your body rather than the commander of it, so it has betrayed your will and now you're open to the assault of any animal or ghost or, in today's alienating technological world, to sinister techno-beings.

God's a friendly face Christians put on an alien (inhuman) universe. Ethereal ('delicate and light in a way that seems too perfect for this world') is an accurate description of how consciousness feels. You use "ethereal" to imply "intangible", but souls are not intangible. They're an intuitive view of interiority, and actually far less abstruse than the scientific view.

 

[Politesse]

Well, one could think about the result rather than the inciting incident.

I am not sure what the "Christian afterlife" might be, though, given the very wide range of views on the matter from universalism to annihilationism to the pleroma and everything in between.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Getting taken to heaven is the most desirable thing a substance-dualist could want, and the other is close to the opposite. It's like comparing the angelic against the demonic, so there's a universe of difference.

Depends on who you yalk to, yhen

Some people REALLY want to be abducted, to validate their beliefs, the time they've soent on understanding ETs, to make them feel special, literally a chosen one, a part of a select group. And when asked, jokingly, about the anal probing, they smile and say, 'they must have their reasons for that.'

Some that have experienced an abduction are less happy about the exoeriences, the therapy, or how the media/cops/neighbors react to their claims, but there are those who desire this.

Which now makes me imagine lots of dead Christains in Niflhel, or Hades, complaining about their afterlife disappointment.

 

[steve_bank]

I have heard it said ET sightings are the modern angels.

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

When Christians die they suddenly, magically end up with a powerful alien creature that lives somewhere. It's all automatic and cannot be controlled so away they go. The only reason the christian humans are here is because this same celestial creature put them here, along with a bit of that ethereal substance they call their soul, the part that gets abducted and reunited with the alien creature. And for some christian humans the body eventually also gets abducted, though none of them are certain exactly how this works, only that it does.

How is this not just another form of Alien Abduction? It cannot be stopped, and this celestial judge is going to either make them all happy or have them live with another alien creature where they will be unhappy. So it's really just aliens all the way down.

So is it much of a stretch to call this alien abduction?

In heaven, you don't get anally probed.

 

[sinkorswim]

When Christians die they suddenly, magically end up with a powerful alien creature that lives somewhere. It's all automatic and cannot be controlled so away they go. The only reason the christian humans are here is because this same celestial creature put them here, along with a bit of that ethereal substance they call their soul, the part that gets abducted and reunited with the alien creature. And for some christian humans the body eventually also gets abducted, though none of them are certain exactly how this works, only that it does.

How is this not just another form of Alien Abduction? It cannot be stopped, and this celestial judge is going to either make them all happy or have them live with another alien creature where they will be unhappy. So it's really just aliens all the way down.

So is it much of a stretch to call this alien abduction?

In heaven, you don't get anally probed.

Unless you like it!

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[T.G.G. Moogly]

Well, one could think about the result rather than the inciting incident.

I am not sure what the "Christian afterlife" might be, though, given the very wide range of views on the matter from universalism to annihilationism to the pleroma and everything in between.

If there is a difference between your standard alien abduction psycho and a christian afterlifer it is only a matter of natural vs supernatural, actual vs mystical. However every religious person I have ever spoken with considers this afterlife as real as anything else in life. They look forward to being abducted. Maybe I should just call this mindset supernatural abductionism and think of it as a mild mental disorder, no different than having bigfoot and ghosts prowling around the farm.

 

[lpetrich]

If you think that UFO abductees are weird, check out UFO contactees. They are the lunatic fringe of UFOlogy -- most other UFOlogists think that contactees are fantasizers and fakers.

UFO contactees claim that they have had close encounters of the friendly kind with ET's. This includes being invited to ride their contacts' vehicles. They report that the ET's look human -- I don't know of any that look like a cross between a spider and an octopus (say). They live in a sort of Star Trek United Federation of Planets, and they have contacted us because they are very concerned about what trouble we are causing. Yet they are unwilling to intervene in force, and they confine their contacts to only a few selected people.

George Adamski was the most prominent of the earlier contactees, and the most prominent of more recent ones is "Billy" Eduard Albert Meier.

 

[Bronzeage]

The difference between Christian afterlife and alien abduction is your mother may be on a different space ship.