"We Will Find You and We Will Kill You"

[Jarhyn]

Do you oppose fascism? Don't worry, the US government will find you and kill you!

Do you support trans rights? That's right, the US government will find you... And kill you!

Apparently anti-fascism has a history going all the way back in the US to the 1930's.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/2026-USCT-Strategy-1.pdf

That's right, it looks suspiciously like we are just about to the part in the "manufactured Christian apocalypse play" where "the Antichrist" starts decapitating everyone who refuses to take a permanent loyalty pledge/brand/mark.

I really wish it sounded paranoid, but this is literally the Whitehouse telling us that they're coming for us, or at least all of us who support people's rights to be as they are and to live in a non-fascist nation.

 

[scombrid]

Our resident “centrists” will be around shortly to champion this common sense policy for dealing with pink haired deranged leftists.

 

[Jarhyn]

Our resident “centrists” will be around shortly to champion this common sense policy for dealing with pink haired deranged leftists.

No, they're going to wait a week so they can start posting on page 3-5 of the thread, or avoid this one altogether as it says all the quiet parts too loudly for their tastes and instead posting/in a new thread that veils the murderousness of the headline.

 

[thebeave]

Do you oppose fascism? Don't worry, the US government will find you and kill you!

Do you support trans rights? That's right, the US government will find you... And kill you!

Apparently anti-fascism has a history going all the way back in the US to the 1930's.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/2026-USCT-Strategy-1.pdf

That's right, it looks suspiciously like we are just about to the part in the "manufactured Christian apocalypse play" where "the Antichrist" starts decapitating everyone who refuses to take a permanent loyalty pledge/brand/mark.

I really wish it sounded paranoid, but this is literally the Whitehouse telling us that they're coming for us, or at least all of us who support people's rights to be as they are and to live in a non-fascist nation.

Did Trump sign White House report targeting trans rights advocates for death? Here's the real story

What's False

… The original, unedited text of the report does not appear to threaten nonviolent pro-transgender rights advocates with being hunted down and killed. The viral image shuffles the order of real excerpts from two different pages of the report without credibly noting the edit, thereby fostering the impression that "We Will Find You and We Will Kill You" directly applies to people who are simply advocating for transgender rights. The threat appears several pages earlier in a "Presidential Foreword" that specifically cites terrorists, cartels and gangs as its targets.

Fake News

 

[Harry Bosch]

Our resident “centrists” will be around shortly to champion this common sense policy for dealing with pink haired deranged leftists.

Dang! Do you really believe this?

 

[GenesisNemesis]

Do you oppose fascism? Don't worry, the US government will find you and kill you!

Do you support trans rights? That's right, the US government will find you... And kill you!

Apparently anti-fascism has a history going all the way back in the US to the 1930's.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/2026-USCT-Strategy-1.pdf

That's right, it looks suspiciously like we are just about to the part in the "manufactured Christian apocalypse play" where "the Antichrist" starts decapitating everyone who refuses to take a permanent loyalty pledge/brand/mark.

I really wish it sounded paranoid, but this is literally the Whitehouse telling us that they're coming for us, or at least all of us who support people's rights to be as they are and to live in a non-fascist nation.

Did Trump sign White House report targeting trans rights advocates for death? Here's the real story

What's False

… The original, unedited text of the report does not appear to threaten nonviolent pro-transgender rights advocates with being hunted down and killed. The viral image shuffles the order of real excerpts from two different pages of the report without credibly noting the edit, thereby fostering the impression that "We Will Find You and We Will Kill You" directly applies to people who are simply advocating for transgender rights. The threat appears several pages earlier in a "Presidential Foreword" that specifically cites terrorists, cartels and gangs as its targets.

Fake News

Indeed! There is nothing whatsoever worrying about "secular ideology" being targeted and we must all completely ignore it.

 

[Jarhyn]

Do you oppose fascism? Don't worry, the US government will find you and kill you!

Do you support trans rights? That's right, the US government will find you... And kill you!

Apparently anti-fascism has a history going all the way back in the US to the 1930's.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/2026-USCT-Strategy-1.pdf

That's right, it looks suspiciously like we are just about to the part in the "manufactured Christian apocalypse play" where "the Antichrist" starts decapitating everyone who refuses to take a permanent loyalty pledge/brand/mark.

I really wish it sounded paranoid, but this is literally the Whitehouse telling us that they're coming for us, or at least all of us who support people's rights to be as they are and to live in a non-fascist nation.

Did Trump sign White House report targeting trans rights advocates for death? Here's the real story

What's False

… The original, unedited text of the report does not appear to threaten nonviolent pro-transgender rights advocates with being hunted down and killed. The viral image shuffles the order of real excerpts from two different pages of the report without credibly noting the edit, thereby fostering the impression that "We Will Find You and We Will Kill You" directly applies to people who are simply advocating for transgender rights. The threat appears several pages earlier in a "Presidential Foreword" that specifically cites terrorists, cartels and gangs as its targets.

Fake News

Indeed! There is nothing whatsoever worrying about "secular ideology" being targeted and we must all completely ignore it.

Yeah it's not like the administration has been going on for years, with target after target, imputing violent intent on nonviolent groups... Oh, wait...

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

This section is interesting:

As real threats were ignored or underplayed, Americans have witnessed the politically motivated killings of Christians and conservatives committed by violent left-wing extremists, including the assassination of Charlie Kirk by a radical who espoused extreme transgender ideologies.

In addition to cartels and Islamist terror groups, our national CT activities will also prioritize the rapid identification and neutralization of violent secular political groups whose ideology is anti-American, radically pro-transgender, and anarchist. We will use all the tools constitutionally available to us to map them at home, identify their membership, map their ties to international organizations like Antifa, and use law enforcement tools to cripple them operationally before they can maim or kill the innocent. We will do the same with the state sponsors of such groups and those governments undertaking lethal plots on U.S. soil or against Americans anywhere.

I think it's probably important to parse this slowly and ask questions.

• (1) They are using a singular, high-profile tragedy—the assassination of Charlie Kirk—to imply a vast, systemic movement of left-wing violence. While that event was horrific, using it to characterize all "secular political groups" as an imminent lethal threat it seems like a logical leap designed to manufacture consent for a crackdown. So....is this vast threat real? Is it far, far more prevalent than right-wing terrorism?
• (2) Being "anti-American, radically pro-transgender, and (/or) anarchist" are ideological stances, not criminal acts. Under the First Amendment, the government cannot criminalize an ideology. Targeting groups specifically for these beliefs is a textbook case of unconstitutional viewpoint discrimination. I understand they are also throwing the word "violent" around and that is discussed further.
• (3) They claim they will "neutralize" these groups "before they can maim or kill." In legal terms, how is this not predictive policing? Unless there is evidence of a specific, actionable conspiracy--LIKE THERE WAS ON JAN 6, BUT A PARDON WAS GIVEN--, "neutralizing" a group based on their perceived potential for future violence is a violation of due process. Do you trust the Trump government to decide which ideologies are "pre-violent," i.e. only ideologies it disagrees with?
• (4) By claiming these domestic groups have "ties to international organizations like Antifa," they are likely attempting to trigger FISA and USA PATRIOT Act authorities. This is the "international nexus" trick: if they can frame a domestic group as a proxy for an international movement, they can bypass standard Fourth Amendment warrant requirements and use National Security Letters (NSLs) to map and "cripple" them without ever proving a crime in a public court. Do you trust the Trump government to search, prosecute and convict Americans behind the scenes?

There is a significant amount of trash in this document that suggests this Administration will treat political dissent as a national security threat. They are signaling that they will go well beyond the Constitution, using the "international ties" claim as a legal fig leaf. It’s the kind of overreach that will be discussed in history lessons decades from now, provided, that is, that the direction we are headed is undone.

 

[SLD]

In addition to cartels and Islamist terror groups, our national CT activities will also prioritize the rapid identification and neutralization of violent secular political groups whose ideology is anti-American, radically pro-transgender, and anarchist. We will use all the tools constitutionally available to us to map them at home, identify their membership, map their ties to international organizations like Antifa, and use law enforcement tools to cripple them operationally before they can maim or kill the innocent. We will do the same with the state sponsors of such groups and those governments undertaking lethal plots on U.S. soil or against Americans anywhere.

This is, I am presuming, the alarming section. There are other places where he pledges to go after and stop Islamic terrorism, but this is the part where he explicitly targets American interests. It is, as is typical of such documents, broad and vaguely worded. There is no sharp definition of what constitutes "violent secular groups" or anti-American ideology. It then does identify "pro-transgender" as an issue as well as Anarchism. But again, it's unclear what this means. Does Ru Paul's Drag Queen shows now count? Does that mean that any television network that showcases them is anti-American?

He then claims the will only use constitutional tools. Like the ones they used against protesters in Minneapolis? They can make any kind of claims they want that something is "constitutional" in their book. Then he claims he will cripple them. How exactly? Will you assassinate people you think are part of Antifa?

It's again a ridiculously broad and open statement. If someone commits a crime, or plots to commit a violent crime, they most certainly can be stopped and law enforcement already has the tools to do so.

I would say that most of these documents are meaningless, regardless of the administration. They're going to do whatever the fuck they want to do under whatever circumstances they have at the time. Under Trump, they're basically though being told to forget about people's civil rights, he will pardon you. Just get him the results he wants - order and more power for Republicans.

 

[laughing dog]

Charlie Kirk gets murdered and its death to antifa.

Melissa Hortman is murdered by a shite Christian nationalist and “meh”.

 

[Bronzeage]

Anti fascism took a steep upturn in the early 1940's, but dropped suddenly in 1945.

 

[Derec]

Anti fascism took a steep upturn in the early 1940's, but dropped suddenly in 1945.

It increased again in 1961 when the glorious German Democratic Republic erected their Antifascist Protection Bulwark.

Antifaschsitische Aktion, from which the modern Antifa derives their name and symbolism, was the pre-WWII paramilitary organ of the German Communist Party (KPD). They thought German Social Democrats (SPD) were fascist, and would no doubt think the same of the US and other western Allied armies that liberated Europe in 1940-1945.

 

[Tigers!]

Do you oppose fascism? Don't worry, the US government will find you and kill you!

Do you support trans rights? That's right, the US government will find you... And kill you!

Apparently anti-fascism has a history going all the way back in the US to the 1930's.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/2026-USCT-Strategy-1.pdf

That's right, it looks suspiciously like we are just about to the part in the "manufactured Christian apocalypse play" where "the Antichrist" starts decapitating everyone who refuses to take a permanent loyalty pledge/brand/mark.

I really wish it sounded paranoid, but this is literally the Whitehouse telling us that they're coming for us, or at least all of us who support people's rights to be as they are and to live in a non-fascist nation.

Did Trump sign White House report targeting trans rights advocates for death? Here's the real story

What's False

… The original, unedited text of the report does not appear to threaten nonviolent pro-transgender rights advocates with being hunted down and killed. The viral image shuffles the order of real excerpts from two different pages of the report without credibly noting the edit, thereby fostering the impression that "We Will Find You and We Will Kill You" directly applies to people who are simply advocating for transgender rights. The threat appears several pages earlier in a "Presidential Foreword" that specifically cites terrorists, cartels and gangs as its targets.

Fake News

You can't say that. Think about the people who will get the vapours.

 

[Bronzeage]

Anti fascism took a steep upturn in the early 1940's, but dropped suddenly in 1945.

It increased again in 1961 when the glorious German Democratic Republic erected their Antifascist Protection Bulwark.

Antifaschsitische Aktion, from which the modern Antifa derives their name and symbolism, was the pre-WWII paramilitary organ of the German Communist Party (KPD). They thought German Social Democrats (SPD) were fascist, and would no doubt think the same of the US and other western Allied armies that liberated Europe in 1940-1945.
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Nice try. Communists have always been the opposition of the fascists, even though all Communist countries eventually became more fascist than Mussolini ever dreamed possible.

If you are trying to equate modern Americans who oppose the neo-fascist overtly racist and sexist Republican party with communists, as I said, nice try.

 

[scombrid]

What they really meant was….

 

[Patooka]

Charlie Kirk gets murdered and its death to antifa.

Melissa Hortman is murdered by a shite Christian nationalist and “meh”.

Yeah, it's curious how not a single right wing terrorist organisation was named in that document.

 

[GenesisNemesis]

Anti fascism took a steep upturn in the early 1940's, but dropped suddenly in 1945.

It increased again in 1961 when the glorious German Democratic Republic erected their Antifascist Protection Bulwark.

Antifaschsitische Aktion, from which the modern Antifa derives their name and symbolism, was the pre-WWII paramilitary organ of the German Communist Party (KPD). They thought German Social Democrats (SPD) were fascist, and would no doubt think the same of the US and other western Allied armies that liberated Europe in 1940-1945.
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Neato. Entirely irrelevant to what antifascists in the U.S. believe. In fact I've seen far more right wingers argue all socialism is fascism. Including democratic socialism.

 

[Derec]

Nice try. Communists have always been the opposition of the fascists,

Not only that. They have always been calling anybody they opposed "fascists". Hence East Germany calling liberal democratic West Germany "fascist" or pre-WWII German Communist Party calling everybody else, including Social Democrats, "fascist".

even though all Communist countries eventually became more fascist than Mussolini ever dreamed possible.

That's the irony of the horseshoe.

If you are trying to equate modern Americans who oppose the neo-fascist overtly racist and sexist Republican party with communists, as I said, nice try.

No. I am trying to make a distinction between merely opposing fascism in all its forms, and the far left ideology of "anti-fascism" that calls everybody not on the far left "fascist", but ignores authoritarianism on its own side.

Related to that are those idiotic memes where US soldiers from WWII are called "original Antifa". No, the original Antifa were the KPD-paramilitaries who considered western Allies "fascist". And modern Antifa is their cultural and ideological heir.

 

[Derec]

Neato. Entirely irrelevant to what antifascists in the U.S. believe.

It's not irrelevant. US Antifa, like its cultural and ideological Urprung in 1920s Germany, is also a far left ideology that calls everybody to their right "fascist". That should be distinguished from actually opposing fascism. If "fascism" as a term is overused, you lose the ability to fight actual fascism. Like the example of East Germany calling the liberal democratic West Germany "fascist" while having many fascist elements itself.

In fact I've seen far more right wingers argue all socialism is fascism. Including democratic socialism.

Actually existing socialism was definitely very authoritarian in a way very similar to fascism even if they saw themselves as polar opposites (but then again, "polar opposites" on Earth also tend to be rather similar).
Democratic socialism is a strange beast. It purports to want to implement socialism in a democratic way. But socialism in an inherently illiberal economic system. So I do not think how it would be compatible with a liberal democracy. And illiberal democracy is not really a good thing. All the drawbacks of democracy without the small-l liberal protection of individual rights and liberties that make actually existing Western democracies worth the messiness to begin with.