The retreat of reason

[Keith&Co.]

Now, SPACE suits in boy-girl flavors make sense because of the plumbing concerns...
But then again, one might be better served with a privately owned undersuit you hooked up to, and outersuits could be generic...

Plumbing concerns are relevant to lower garments regardless of where you are. Men desire an easily-openable front. Women have no use for that.

Having had a bout of diarrhea last week, what i NEEDED was an easy-open back. But as long as the pants were openable, everything came out okay in the end...

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

We have a president who 1. Pushed the Obama birther conspiracy, 2. Claimed, without evidence, that millions of people voted illegally, 3. Claimed, without evidence, that Obama wiretapped him, 4. Claimed that global warming is a "Chinese hoax", among many other things, yet this, this is the "retreat of reason".

Don't forget about a black athlete taking a silent knee during the National Anthem being apparently equivalent to wiping his ass with the flag, during the anthem.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Plumbing concerns are relevant to lower garments regardless of where you are. Men desire an easily-openable front. Women have no use for that.

Having had a bout of diarrhea last week, what i NEEDED was an easy-open back. But as long as the pants were openable, everything came out okay in the end...

Men and women have the same plumbing in back, there's no reason for a gender difference.

 

[OLDMAN]

Having had a bout of diarrhea last week, what i NEEDED was an easy-open back. But as long as the pants were openable, everything came out okay in the end...

Men and women have the same plumbing in back, there's no reason for a gender difference.

Hey that's right, but they can tuck in their tallywackers is all...

 

[whichphilosophy]

Having had a bout of diarrhea last week, what i NEEDED was an easy-open back. But as long as the pants were openable, everything came out okay in the end...

Men and women have the same plumbing in back, there's no reason for a gender difference.

However only men naturally have the pipework in the front.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Having had a bout of diarrhea last week, what i NEEDED was an easy-open back. But as long as the pants were openable, everything came out okay in the end...

Men and women have the same plumbing in back, there's no reason for a gender difference.

But that's the point.
If clothing design was based on biology, it would be more efficient to have an opening where EVERYONE needs it... But fashion is mostly only tangential to biology.

Except for Power Girl's Boob Window.

 

[Opoponax]

Bilby perfectly demonstrates how the regressive left argues: stake out the latest Tumblr-approved position on race or gender or whatever, have that position completely demolished, then claim victory anyways.

Well, that's without evidence, over-broad, and nonsensical, but I really have to know: why does this bother you so much? No one's forcing you or anyone else to buy X clothes, or shop at Y store. So what the fuck do you care? You're like Mrs. Kravitz from Bewitched, except Mrs. Kravitz actually did have a legitimate basis for her paranoia.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Men and women have the same plumbing in back, there's no reason for a gender difference.

However only men naturally have the pipework in the front.

I started out pointing out that difference.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

You tell them they're wrong!

 

[repoman]

The tartan makes it heteronormative.

 

[Random Person]

John Lewis may be responding to the market or they may be tone deaf.

Gross receipts will tell the tale.

 

[ronburgundy]

Now, SPACE suits in boy-girl flavors make sense because of the plumbing concerns...
But then again, one might be better served with a privately owned undersuit you hooked up to, and outersuits could be generic...

Plumbing concerns are relevant to lower garments regardless of where you are. Men desire an easily-openable front. Women have no use for that.

Both men and women have to regularly lower their pants/shorts whenever they shit, and zippers or no easier to lower for male urination than an elastic waistband. Both types of openings are common in both men and women's clothes, so that has little to do with any practical benefit of categorizing clothing by sex

For adults (not for pre-pubescent kids' clothes which is what the OP is about), it makes sense to categorize by biological sex just due to the typical difference in body shape and in where the sexes tend to pack more meat, if you will. Just needing the space for the male genitals (not the need to easily whip it out) is a factor, as is the typically greater hip and thigh room relative to waist that women need. Also, adult males tend to have notably broader shoulders relative to the height and other dimensions.

The fact, that what is typical between the sexes doesn't always hold is irrelevant to the fact that it makes sense to categorize clothes for what will typically direct adults to the type of clothes designed for the basic body features.

And again, this doesn't apply to pre-pubescent kids whose body proportions and ratios are far more similar to each other.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Plumbing concerns are relevant to lower garments regardless of where you are. Men desire an easily-openable front. Women have no use for that.

Both men and women have to regularly lower their pants/shorts whenever they shit, and zippers or no easier to lower for male urination than an elastic waistband. Both types of openings are common in both men and women's clothes, so that has little to do with any practical benefit of categorizing clothing by sex

For adults (not for pre-pubescent kids' clothes which is what the OP is about), it makes sense to categorize by biological sex just due to the typical difference in body shape and in where the sexes tend to pack more meat, if you will. Just needing the space for the male genitals (not the need to easily whip it out) is a factor, as is the typically greater hip and thigh room relative to waist that women need. Also, adult males tend to have notably broader shoulders relative to the height and other dimensions.

The fact, that what is typical between the sexes doesn't always hold is irrelevant to the fact that it makes sense to categorize clothes for what will typically direct adults to the type of clothes designed for the basic body features.

And again, this doesn't apply to pre-pubescent kids whose body proportions and ratios are far more similar to each other.

I agree with you.

I will also add--and I am not sure you will agree--that the long-term march toward gender differentiation in clothing is not so much based on biology but instead marketing and technological improvements in manufacturing. While that gender differentiation has biological roots in regard to why people may want to make fools of themselves by their clothing, it is a different kind of biological drive that forms it. The simplest, most durable, and cheapest clothing would be environmentally differentiated first and making them uniform in most ways would reduce cost, but the goal is not cost--it's marketing and increasing profit margins through innovation. So, a plain skirt for adult males or females with neither added colors nor doodads would most often suffice except in extreme cold or mosquito-infested environments. Meanwhile, the tight-fittingness and colors are part of different cultural aesthetics that have some roots in sexual selection.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

And again, this doesn't apply to pre-pubescent kids whose body proportions and ratios are far more similar to each other.

Boys still pee standing up, girls still pee sitting down. There's a difference.

I see no need for any other differences in their clothing, though.

 

[RavenSky]

You tell them they're wrong!

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And again, this doesn't apply to pre-pubescent kids whose body proportions and ratios are far more similar to each other.

Boys still pee standing up, girls still pee sitting down. There's a difference.

Not necessarily

(unless you were just making a joke, in which case )

 

[TSwizzle]

LOL, disappearing up their own arses;

Parents have been left furious after the secondary school once attended by Piers Morgan banned skirts to make its uniform 'gender neutral' for transgender students. Priory School, a mixed co-ed for pupils aged 11 to 16 in Lewes, East Sussex, said it also brought in the rule following 'complaints from parents about short skirts' School headmaster Tony Smith said he brought in the rule because of complaints over short skirts and to make the uniform gender neutral for transgender students.

DailyMail

Priceless

 

[NMN]

LOL, disappearing up their own arses;

Parents have been left furious after the secondary school once attended by Piers Morgan banned skirts to make its uniform 'gender neutral' for transgender students. Priory School, a mixed co-ed for pupils aged 11 to 16 in Lewes, East Sussex, said it also brought in the rule following 'complaints from parents about short skirts' School headmaster Tony Smith said he brought in the rule because of complaints over short skirts and to make the uniform gender neutral for transgender students.

DailyMail

Priceless

Instance #10,487,094 of the left's disturbing obsession with the bodies of children.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

LOL, disappearing up their own arses;



DailyMail

Priceless

Instance #10,487,094 of the left's disturbing obsession with the bodies of children.

TSwizzle is a commie pinko?

 

[RavenSky]

Instance #10,487,094 of the left's disturbing obsession with the bodies of children.

TSwizzle is a commie pinko?

Compared to where NMN falls on the spectrum... he probably appears to from NMN's perspective

 

[NMN]

I was clearly referencing the article, but it's good to see regressive leftist demonstrating their lack of reading skills for the world to see.