The Marjorie Taylor Greene case

[RVonse]

In any case, MTG will be a lesson for all the other cultists. They must all agree 100% with Trump or lose their careers. If Trump shows forgiveness, then all the other Republicans will think they can sometimes disagree and get away with it, too.

Isn't that the way politics has always worked? Either lick the balls of your POTUS and party or the party will try to ruin you?

No, it isn’t.

Just look at how the republican party and Trump treats Rand Paul over the deficit for example. Paul gets more flack from Trump than MTG even on her worst day.

And for the people on this thread who think MTG suddenly turned a new leaf and wants to join the other side. Its not MTG or MAGA who has changed her mind about the Epstein files.....it was the Trump administration. How can a reasonable person fault her actions when she is simply representing her base of constituents? Are not her actions a reasonable expectation for a typical US politician?

You’re misreading the responses. MTG is finally acting rationally and perhaps waking up to the fact she vigorously supported a monster.

How has she changed her views???

I can see how Trump changed his stance later not releasing Epstein documents. And I can see how Democrats and liberals change their tune now that they see a conflict between her and Trump. But that conflict has more to do with Trump's change in stance. The liberals only care about their pleasure seeing a republican disagreement. That part is obvious and predictable. But MTG is not adopting anything different or supporting anything she always hasn't as far I can see.

 

[Jarhyn]

The liberals only care about their pleasure seeing a republican disagreement

What is it with you and projecting pleasure on others over politics.

More, we are just disgusted by the whole lot of it. We want it to be out of our halls of government and out of our laws and our of our national financial institutions.

We want all of those pedophiles and screeching christo-nazis out of office, and we don't believe for a second that she has really changed, prior to substantive shifts in her actions.

Really, we want to see everyone who went to or procured girls for or otherwise supported Epstein's operation on that island to be put in a place where society can forget about them and they cannot touch society until they are dead.

I would also want to see every piece of legislation regarding minors on which ANY of those people worked to be reviewed and questioned as to whether it was placed there to give leeway to offenders in some way.

I would want to see the health and human development classes include non-judgemental discussions about the conditions people can find among themselves, and to have discussions about consent, the right to say no, and discussions about the dark situations adults will try to use to make kids comply.

Why is there no education about "never follow someone to a secondary location"?!?

But these are all apparently "liberal" things.

If Republicans disagreements mean that we get these "liberal" things, sure, Republican disagreements! Hooray! Whatever. But really I just want to see all of these open child beauty pageant to sex slave pipelines closed. And everyone among the party that fights tooth and nail against those laws "disagreeing" creates the opening to make that happen, sometimes.

I mean, revelations are coming out about Trump's beauty pageant and arrangements with procurers from these emails already released. We know for a fact that child beauty pageants have connections to sex trafficking operations, and in particular, TRUMP'S pageants.

I want to see justice and I am glad that the Republicans outside of Trump's pedo circle is making noise about it.

But I'm thrilled because it might mean that an unrepentant pedophile and a bunch of pedophile enablers and probably a good number of ongoing pedophile operations all collapse, with a number of very powerful and influential people going down with it, and maybe we finally see an end to putting children's bodies on display for creepy old people.

My biggest worry is that this COULD still end up turning into a witch trial situation, arranged largely by people who are infamous for DARVO and "helping" in the most intensely unhelpful way ever.

 

[ZiprHead]

Greene: I was called a traitor by a man that I fought for six years for. And I gave him my loyalty for free. I won my first election without his endorsement, beating eight men in a primary, and I've never owed him anything. But I fought for him for the policies and for America first. And he called me a traitor for standing with these women and refusing to take my name off the discharge petition. Let me tell you what a traitor is. A traitor is a is an American that serves foreign countries and themselves. A patriot is an American that serves the United States of Americans and Americans like the women standing behind me.

 

[laughing dog]

In any case, MTG will be a lesson for all the other cultists. They must all agree 100% with Trump or lose their careers. If Trump shows forgiveness, then all the other Republicans will think they can sometimes disagree and get away with it, too.

Isn't that the way politics has always worked? Either lick the balls of your POTUS and party or the party will try to ruin you?

No, it isn’t.

Just look at how the republican party and Trump treats Rand Paul over the deficit for example. Paul gets more flack from Trump than MTG even on her worst day.

And for the people on this thread who think MTG suddenly turned a new leaf and wants to join the other side. Its not MTG or MAGA who has changed her mind about the Epstein files.....it was the Trump administration. How can a reasonable person fault her actions when she is simply representing her base of constituents? Are not her actions a reasonable expectation for a typical US politician?

You’re misreading the responses. MTG is finally acting rationally and perhaps waking up to the fact she vigorously supported a monster.

How has she changed her views???

I can see how Trump changed his stance later not releasing Epstein documents. And I can see how Democrats and liberals change their tune now that they see a conflict between her and Trump. But that conflict has more to do with Trump's change in stance. The liberals only care about their pleasure seeing a republican disagreement. That part is obvious and predictable. But MTG is not adopting anything different or supporting anything she always hasn't as far I can see.

We seem to inhabit completely different universes. The Democrats and liberals haven’t changed their tune. MTG claims to have left behind her vituperative nonsense. She didn’t support his refusal to release the documents.

 

[Elixir]

In any case, MTG will be a lesson for all the other cultists. They must all agree 100% with Trump or lose their careers. If Trump shows forgiveness, then all the other Republicans will think they can sometimes disagree and get away with it, too.

Isn't that the way politics has always worked? Either lick the balls of your POTUS and party or the party will try to ruin you?

No, it isn’t.

Just look at how the republican party and Trump treats Rand Paul over the deficit for example. Paul gets more flack from Trump than MTG even on her worst day.

And for the people on this thread who think MTG suddenly turned a new leaf and wants to join the other side. Its not MTG or MAGA who has changed her mind about the Epstein files.....it was the Trump administration. How can a reasonable person fault her actions when she is simply representing her base of constituents? Are not her actions a reasonable expectation for a typical US politician?

You’re misreading the responses. MTG is finally acting rationally and perhaps waking up to the fact she vigorously supported a monster.

How has she changed her views???

I can see how Trump changed his stance later not releasing Epstein documents. And I can see how Democrats and liberals change their tune now that they see a conflict between her and Trump. But that conflict has more to do with Trump's change in stance. The liberals only care about their pleasure seeing a republican disagreement. That part is obvious and predictable. But MTG is not adopting anything different or supporting anything she always hasn't as far I can see.

We seem to inhabit completely different universes. The Democrats and liberals haven’t changed their tune. MTG claims to have left behind her vituperative nonsense. She didn’t support his refusal to release the documents.

It’s laughable to think empty gee only just this week realizes that Trump is a creep. She has cozied up to him in the past. IMHO she did so in complete awareness that he’s a creep, but she too is a creep, an opportunistic creep.