Sudan Massacre

[pood]

Religion is almost always used as a prop, especially for wars.

Sure, but the point stands that none of the wars you cite were fought because of Christianity. Germany’s attack on Poland was an attack by an ostensibly Christian nation on a Catholic nation. And?

Nothing you have posted rebuts my observation "In the 20th century, one would be hard pressed to deny that Christian countries weren’t the most dangerous countries." That statement does not mean no other type of country is not dangerous.

The point that stands that none of this warmaking was because of Christianity, but because of power politics, so I do not see what point you are trying to make.

 

[laughing dog]

Religion is almost always used as a prop, especially for wars.

Sure, but the point stands that none of the wars you cite were fought because of Christianity. Germany’s attack on Poland was an attack by an ostensibly Christian nation on a Catholic nation. And?

Nothing you have posted rebuts my observation "In the 20th century, one would be hard pressed to deny that Christian countries weren’t the most dangerous countries." That statement does not mean no other type of country is not dangerous.

The point that stands that none of this warmaking was because of Christianity, but because of power politics, so I do not see what point you are trying to make.

Fair enough, even though I disagree.

 

[pood]

Religion is almost always used as a prop, especially for wars.

Sure, but the point stands that none of the wars you cite were fought because of Christianity. Germany’s attack on Poland was an attack by an ostensibly Christian nation on a Catholic nation. And?

Nothing you have posted rebuts my observation "In the 20th century, one would be hard pressed to deny that Christian countries weren’t the most dangerous countries." That statement does not mean no other type of country is not dangerous.

The point that stands that none of this warmaking was because of Christianity, but because of power politics, so I do not see what point you are trying to make.

Fair enough, even though I disagree.

Are you saying you think the cause of World War II was Christianity? I think it was Hitler, who was not a Christian but pretended to be; Mussolini, who was a fascist, and the military dictatorship of Japan, which had nothing to do with Christianity.

 

[pood]

Of course soldiers fighting in the war leaned on their respective faiths to keep up morale, but that is a different thing.

 

[laughing dog]

Religion is almost always used as a prop, especially for wars.

Sure, but the point stands that none of the wars you cite were fought because of Christianity. Germany’s attack on Poland was an attack by an ostensibly Christian nation on a Catholic nation. And?

Nothing you have posted rebuts my observation "In the 20th century, one would be hard pressed to deny that Christian countries weren’t the most dangerous countries." That statement does not mean no other type of country is not dangerous.

The point that stands that none of this warmaking was because of Christianity, but because of power politics, so I do not see what point you are trying to make.

Fair enough, even though I disagree.

Are you saying you think the cause of World War II was Christianity? I think it was Hitler, who was not a Christian but pretended to be;

No I am not. A war does not have be a religious crusade to be facilitated or driven by religious beliefs. The European Axis powers - who started the WWII in Europe -were very much traditional conservative Christian nations. That heritage and history is part of their culture, which helped the Germans and the Italians to follow and obey their brutal leaders.

Russia is also one of them.

Mussolini, who was a fascist, and the military dictatorship of Japan, which had nothing to do with Christianity.

Mussolini was an avowed atheist before he took power. Once he rose to lead Italy, he harnessed the power of the Catholic Church to help him govern.

 

[pood]

Religion is almost always used as a prop, especially for wars.

Sure, but the point stands that none of the wars you cite were fought because of Christianity. Germany’s attack on Poland was an attack by an ostensibly Christian nation on a Catholic nation. And?

Nothing you have posted rebuts my observation "In the 20th century, one would be hard pressed to deny that Christian countries weren’t the most dangerous countries." That statement does not mean no other type of country is not dangerous.

The point that stands that none of this warmaking was because of Christianity, but because of power politics, so I do not see what point you are trying to make.

Fair enough, even though I disagree.

Are you saying you think the cause of World War II was Christianity? I think it was Hitler, who was not a Christian but pretended to be;

No I am not. A war does not have be a religious crusade to be facilitated or driven by religious beliefs. The European Axis powers - who started the WWII in Europe -were very much traditional conservative Christian nations. That heritage and history is part of their culture, which helped the Germans and the Italians to follow and obey their brutal leaders.

Russia is also one of them.

Mussolini, who was a fascist, and the military dictatorship of Japan, which had nothing to do with Christianity.

Mussolini was an avowed atheist before he took power. Once he rose to lead Italy, he harnessed the power of the Catholic Church to help him govern.

Hitler and Mussolini despised Christianity. Japan was not Christian at all.

Yet you seem to be saying that Hitler and Mussolini, even though they despised Christianity, could only have risen to power because of Christianity and could not have led their nations into war except for their Christian cultural heritage. You have not even begun to make this case. Of course in the case of imperial Japan Christianity could not have been a factor at all.

You could perhaps argue that religion in general, with its doctrines, superstitions and various hierarchies, make it easier for people like Hitler and Mussolini to assume power and lead people into war because their polity was conditioned to be sheeple. Is that your claim? But if this is true, it is not particular to Christianity.

 

[pood]

Mussolini was an avowed atheist before he took power. Once he rose to lead Italy, he harnessed the power of the Catholic Church to help him govern.

Already noted this. This does not make the Catholic Church responsible for his aggressions against Italy’s neighbors. It just makes the church accommodationist cowards.

 

[pood]

Non abbiamo bisogno

 

[pood]

Fascism derives from the ancient Roman fasces, a symbol of power and authority. The megalomaniacal Mussolini wanted to restore the Roman Empire, pre-Christ. Both he and Hitler despised Christianity. To blame Christianity for World War II is, let’s face it, ridiculous.