Star Wars episode 7 coming out soon

[bilby]

Spoiler:

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[GenesisNemesis]

Reviews appear to be saying:

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It's competent

Which is nice.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Reviews appear to be saying:

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It's competent

Which is nice.

Pretty much what I was saying all this time. It'd be a well polished film that could have been better, but wasn't bad. It would have been an awesome film if Wedge Antilles was in it. Alas.

 

[Draconis]

I'm very much looking forward to watching it - ASAP

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Stop putting stuff in spoiler tags. It makes me want to open them up and read spoilers.

I hate everybody who's seen this before me.

 

[Underseer]

The general reaction of the movie critics seems to be good but not great, so set your expectations accordingly.

 

[Jayjay]

Stop putting stuff in spoiler tags. It makes me want to open them up and read spoilers.

I hate everybody who's seen this before me.

The thing is...

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... they're jsut fucking with you. There was nothing that spoiled the plot inside those spoiler tags. Haw haw.

 

[The Colourful Jester]

Reviews appear to be saying:

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It's competent

Which is nice.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_wars_episode_vii_the_force_awakens/

Competent? Reviewers seem to be wetting the bed. And after my second viewing I agree with that.

 

[Underseer]

Reviews appear to be saying:

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It's competent

Which is nice.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_wars_episode_vii_the_force_awakens/

Competent? Reviewers seem to be wetting the bed. And after my second viewing I agree with that.

This is the thing about the scoring system at Rottentomatoes. All positive reviews get the same score, even if the review is only slightly positive. All negative reviews get the same score, even if it's only slightly negative.

By contrast, Metacritic converts all ratings into a percentage, then averages them together.

At the moment, Rottentomatoes has a score of 95%, but Metacritic has a score of 81%.

http://www.metacritic.com/movie/star-wars-episode-vii---the-force-awakens

 

[GenesisNemesis]

Reviews appear to be saying:

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It's competent

Which is nice.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_wars_episode_vii_the_force_awakens/

Competent? Reviewers seem to be wetting the bed. And after my second viewing I agree with that.

I'm probably being a bit cynical, but that's going to happen whenever there's a movie with as high of a status as Star Wars. Raving reviews are expected.

 

[Jayjay]

Fans gonna be fans. The movie doesn't have to be the best cinematic experience ever made, all it has to achieve is being a competent movie and push the right Star Wars nostalgia buttons. That's all.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_wars_episode_vii_the_force_awakens/

Competent? Reviewers seem to be wetting the bed. And after my second viewing I agree with that.

This is the thing about the scoring system at Rottentomatoes. All positive reviews get the same score, even if the review is only slightly positive. All negative reviews get the same score, even if it's only slightly negative.

By contrast, Metacritic converts all ratings into a percentage, then averages them together.

At the moment, Rottentomatoes has a score of 95%, but Metacritic has a score of 81%.

http://www.metacritic.com/movie/star-wars-episode-vii---the-force-awakens

Rotten Tomatoes used to give a great ideas as to the quality of the film. Now days, just whether it rates about competent.

 

[Underseer]

This is the thing about the scoring system at Rottentomatoes. All positive reviews get the same score, even if the review is only slightly positive. All negative reviews get the same score, even if it's only slightly negative.

By contrast, Metacritic converts all ratings into a percentage, then averages them together.

At the moment, Rottentomatoes has a score of 95%, but Metacritic has a score of 81%.

http://www.metacritic.com/movie/star-wars-episode-vii---the-force-awakens

Rotten Tomatoes used to give a great ideas as to the quality of the film. Now days, just whether it rates about competent.

No, this has always been a flaw in their rating system.

If most reviewers give positive reviews, but most of the reviews are only slightly positive, then the resulting score will look artificially high.

Same thing if most reviews are slightly negative. The resulting score looks artificially low.

Anyway, just got back from the movie. It kicked ass. It had all the same pieces, but the pieces were in different places, so it was different enough to be interesting, but similar enough that I kept thinking "This is what the prequel trilogy should've been."

I like the new characters a lot, especially Finn.

(Major spoilers below)

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The trailers were wonderfully misleading. I thought for sure Finn was going to be the new Jedi apprentice. Looks like Rey will fill that role. Also, it seems obvious that she is the sister of Kylo Ren and the daughter of Han & Leia, although they didn't say so explicitly. I kept getting mad at Han and Leia for not saying anything to her.

Now we know why Kylo Ren idolizes Darth Vader. He does not measure up, and that's a good thing. He is a more vulnerable villain, and we get to see his conflict between the light and dark side.

There was definitely a moment during the big lightsaber battle when Rey gave into the dark side a bit, so I expect her to be as conflicted as her brother, but from the other side.

What I really want to know is whether or not Finn is force sensitive and whether or not he will also receive Jedi training. Kylo Ren may be a pale imitation of Darth Vader, but Finn managed to go toe to toe with him in a lightsaber battle despite the fact that Finn is completely untrained in lightsaber combat. Also, how did he overcome his stormtrooper conditioning if he isn't force sensitive?

Poe (the ace pilot of the Resistance and owner of BB-8) was the weakest of the new characters. Hopefully, once they flesh him out, he'll be more interesting, as he did not get much screen time.

 

[Draconis]

Yesterday looked at the nearest two cinemas to us: out of 40-ish showings between them Saturday, I found only 5 seats left. Everything else packed out.

I booked 3 of them.

Wow, this is going to be one big opening weekend.

 

[Jaecp]

Rotten Tomatoes used to give a great ideas as to the quality of the film. Now days, just whether it rates about competent.

No, this has always been a flaw in their rating system.

If most reviewers give positive reviews, but most of the reviews are only slightly positive, then the resulting score will look artificially high.

Same thing if most reviews are slightly negative. The resulting score looks artificially low.

Anyway, just got back from the movie. It kicked ass. It had all the same pieces, but the pieces were in different places, so it was different enough to be interesting, but similar enough that I kept thinking "This is what the prequel trilogy should've been."

I like the new characters a lot, especially Finn.

(Major spoilers below)

Show

The trailers were wonderfully misleading. I thought for sure Finn was going to be the new Jedi apprentice. Looks like Rey will fill that role. Also, it seems obvious that she is the sister of Kylo Ren and the daughter of Han & Leia, although they didn't say so explicitly. I kept getting mad at Han and Leia for not saying anything to her.

Now we know why Kylo Ren idolizes Darth Vader. He does not measure up, and that's a good thing. He is a more vulnerable villain, and we get to see his conflict between the light and dark side.

There was definitely a moment during the big lightsaber battle when Rey gave into the dark side a bit, so I expect her to be as conflicted as her brother, but from the other side.

What I really want to know is whether or not Finn is force sensitive and whether or not he will also receive Jedi training. Kylo Ren may be a pale imitation of Darth Vader, but Finn managed to go toe to toe with him in a lightsaber battle despite the fact that Finn is completely untrained in lightsaber combat. Also, how did he overcome his stormtrooper conditioning if he isn't force sensitive?

Poe (the ace pilot of the Resistance and owner of BB-8) was the weakest of the new characters. Hopefully, once they flesh him out, he'll be more interesting, as he did not get much screen time.

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I think they're both Force sensative, but as Rey is of Vader's lineage she has that natural power boost. Fin is also a force sensitive, but not to the point that most people [outside of Kylo in that opening moment] could really tell.

I kind of wish the Kylo Ren being Ben [which is fucking with me, because Ben is supposed to be Luke's kid's name... wtf] was more of a surprise. They just kind of... exposit it at some point

 

[Underseer]

No, this has always been a flaw in their rating system.

If most reviewers give positive reviews, but most of the reviews are only slightly positive, then the resulting score will look artificially high.

Same thing if most reviews are slightly negative. The resulting score looks artificially low.

Anyway, just got back from the movie. It kicked ass. It had all the same pieces, but the pieces were in different places, so it was different enough to be interesting, but similar enough that I kept thinking "This is what the prequel trilogy should've been."

I like the new characters a lot, especially Finn.

(Major spoilers below)

Show

The trailers were wonderfully misleading. I thought for sure Finn was going to be the new Jedi apprentice. Looks like Rey will fill that role. Also, it seems obvious that she is the sister of Kylo Ren and the daughter of Han & Leia, although they didn't say so explicitly. I kept getting mad at Han and Leia for not saying anything to her.

Now we know why Kylo Ren idolizes Darth Vader. He does not measure up, and that's a good thing. He is a more vulnerable villain, and we get to see his conflict between the light and dark side.

There was definitely a moment during the big lightsaber battle when Rey gave into the dark side a bit, so I expect her to be as conflicted as her brother, but from the other side.

What I really want to know is whether or not Finn is force sensitive and whether or not he will also receive Jedi training. Kylo Ren may be a pale imitation of Darth Vader, but Finn managed to go toe to toe with him in a lightsaber battle despite the fact that Finn is completely untrained in lightsaber combat. Also, how did he overcome his stormtrooper conditioning if he isn't force sensitive?

Poe (the ace pilot of the Resistance and owner of BB-8) was the weakest of the new characters. Hopefully, once they flesh him out, he'll be more interesting, as he did not get much screen time.

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I think they're both Force sensative, but as Rey is of Vader's lineage she has that natural power boost. Fin is also a force sensitive, but not to the point that most people [outside of Kylo in that opening moment] could really tell.

I kind of wish the Kylo Ren being Ben [which is fucking with me, because Ben is supposed to be Luke's kid's name... wtf] was more of a surprise. They just kind of... exposit it at some point

You are thinking of the Extended Universe, which is no longer canon.

 

[Hawkingfan]

Rotten Tomatoes used to give a great ideas as to the quality of the film. Now days, just whether it rates about competent.

No, this has always been a flaw in their rating system.

If most reviewers give positive reviews, but most of the reviews are only slightly positive, then the resulting score will look artificially high.

Same thing if most reviews are slightly negative. The resulting score looks artificially low.

Anyway, just got back from the movie. It kicked ass. It had all the same pieces, but the pieces were in different places, so it was different enough to be interesting, but similar enough that I kept thinking "This is what the prequel trilogy should've been."

I like the new characters a lot, especially Finn.

(Major spoilers below)

Show

The trailers were wonderfully misleading. I thought for sure Finn was going to be the new Jedi apprentice. Looks like Rey will fill that role. Also, it seems obvious that she is the sister of Kylo Ren and the daughter of Han & Leia, although they didn't say so explicitly. I kept getting mad at Han and Leia for not saying anything to her.

Now we know why Kylo Ren idolizes Darth Vader. He does not measure up, and that's a good thing. He is a more vulnerable villain, and we get to see his conflict between the light and dark side.

There was definitely a moment during the big lightsaber battle when Rey gave into the dark side a bit, so I expect her to be as conflicted as her brother, but from the other side.

What I really want to know is whether or not Finn is force sensitive and whether or not he will also receive Jedi training. Kylo Ren may be a pale imitation of Darth Vader, but Finn managed to go toe to toe with him in a lightsaber battle despite the fact that Finn is completely untrained in lightsaber combat. Also, how did he overcome his stormtrooper conditioning if he isn't force sensitive?

Poe (the ace pilot of the Resistance and owner of BB-8) was the weakest of the new characters. Hopefully, once they flesh him out, he'll be more interesting, as he did not get much screen time.

Can you let us know if Han, Luke, and Chewy made it to the end of the movie alive? (In hidden text).

 

[Alcoholic Actuary]

Rotten Tomatoes used to give a great ideas as to the quality of the film. Now days, just whether it rates about competent.

No, this has always been a flaw in their rating system.

If most reviewers give positive reviews, but most of the reviews are only slightly positive, then the resulting score will look artificially high.

Same thing if most reviews are slightly negative. The resulting score looks artificially low.

Anyway, just got back from the movie. It kicked ass. It had all the same pieces, but the pieces were in different places, so it was different enough to be interesting, but similar enough that I kept thinking "This is what the prequel trilogy should've been."

I like the new characters a lot, especially Finn.

(Major spoilers below)

Show

The trailers were wonderfully misleading. I thought for sure Finn was going to be the new Jedi apprentice. Looks like Rey will fill that role. Also, it seems obvious that she is the sister of Kylo Ren and the daughter of Han & Leia, although they didn't say so explicitly. I kept getting mad at Han and Leia for not saying anything to her.

Now we know why Kylo Ren idolizes Darth Vader. He does not measure up, and that's a good thing. He is a more vulnerable villain, and we get to see his conflict between the light and dark side.

There was definitely a moment during the big lightsaber battle when Rey gave into the dark side a bit, so I expect her to be as conflicted as her brother, but from the other side.

What I really want to know is whether or not Finn is force sensitive and whether or not he will also receive Jedi training. Kylo Ren may be a pale imitation of Darth Vader, but Finn managed to go toe to toe with him in a lightsaber battle despite the fact that Finn is completely untrained in lightsaber combat. Also, how did he overcome his stormtrooper conditioning if he isn't force sensitive?

Poe (the ace pilot of the Resistance and owner of BB-8) was the weakest of the new characters. Hopefully, once they flesh him out, he'll be more interesting, as he did not get much screen time.

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I loved Poe!! I thought the very first scenes between him and Kylo Ren were pure gold and set the tone for the entire movie. Hotshot pilot with an attitude and big mouth - reminded me of a young Han Solo. I agree he could have used more screen time.

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[Achwienichtig]

Rotten Tomatoes used to give a great ideas as to the quality of the film. Now days, just whether it rates about competent.

No, this has always been a flaw in their rating system.

If most reviewers give positive reviews, but most of the reviews are only slightly positive, then the resulting score will look artificially high.

Same thing if most reviews are slightly negative. The resulting score looks artificially low.

Anyway, just got back from the movie. It kicked ass. It had all the same pieces, but the pieces were in different places, so it was different enough to be interesting, but similar enough that I kept thinking "This is what the prequel trilogy should've been."

I like the new characters a lot, especially Finn.

(Major spoilers below)

Show

The trailers were wonderfully misleading. I thought for sure Finn was going to be the new Jedi apprentice. Looks like Rey will fill that role. Also, it seems obvious that she is the sister of Kylo Ren and the daughter of Han & Leia, although they didn't say so explicitly. I kept getting mad at Han and Leia for not saying anything to her.

Now we know why Kylo Ren idolizes Darth Vader. He does not measure up, and that's a good thing. He is a more vulnerable villain, and we get to see his conflict between the light and dark side.

There was definitely a moment during the big lightsaber battle when Rey gave into the dark side a bit, so I expect her to be as conflicted as her brother, but from the other side.

What I really want to know is whether or not Finn is force sensitive and whether or not he will also receive Jedi training. Kylo Ren may be a pale imitation of Darth Vader, but Finn managed to go toe to toe with him in a lightsaber battle despite the fact that Finn is completely untrained in lightsaber combat. Also, how did he overcome his stormtrooper conditioning if he isn't force sensitive?

Poe (the ace pilot of the Resistance and owner of BB-8) was the weakest of the new characters. Hopefully, once they flesh him out, he'll be more interesting, as he did not get much screen time.

(Spoilers!)

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Nowhere did I get the indication that Rey is Kylo Ren's sister. Her family history is obviously something they wanted to tease us about, but I don't think that's the direction it's going.

Finn, IMO, is definitely force sensitive. Hopefully they develop that more.

Overall, I was a little disappointed in the story line. It felt a bit more like a copy of "A New Hope" than an original. Definitely an improvement over the prequels. The next two movies is where I think Abrams really plans on making his mark.

 

[Underseer]

No, this has always been a flaw in their rating system.

If most reviewers give positive reviews, but most of the reviews are only slightly positive, then the resulting score will look artificially high.

Same thing if most reviews are slightly negative. The resulting score looks artificially low.

Anyway, just got back from the movie. It kicked ass. It had all the same pieces, but the pieces were in different places, so it was different enough to be interesting, but similar enough that I kept thinking "This is what the prequel trilogy should've been."

I like the new characters a lot, especially Finn.

(Major spoilers below)

Show

The trailers were wonderfully misleading. I thought for sure Finn was going to be the new Jedi apprentice. Looks like Rey will fill that role. Also, it seems obvious that she is the sister of Kylo Ren and the daughter of Han & Leia, although they didn't say so explicitly. I kept getting mad at Han and Leia for not saying anything to her.

Now we know why Kylo Ren idolizes Darth Vader. He does not measure up, and that's a good thing. He is a more vulnerable villain, and we get to see his conflict between the light and dark side.

There was definitely a moment during the big lightsaber battle when Rey gave into the dark side a bit, so I expect her to be as conflicted as her brother, but from the other side.

What I really want to know is whether or not Finn is force sensitive and whether or not he will also receive Jedi training. Kylo Ren may be a pale imitation of Darth Vader, but Finn managed to go toe to toe with him in a lightsaber battle despite the fact that Finn is completely untrained in lightsaber combat. Also, how did he overcome his stormtrooper conditioning if he isn't force sensitive?

Poe (the ace pilot of the Resistance and owner of BB-8) was the weakest of the new characters. Hopefully, once they flesh him out, he'll be more interesting, as he did not get much screen time.

Can you let us know if Han, Luke, and Chewy made it to the end of the movie alive? (In hidden text).

If you already saw the movie, you don't need me to tell you. If you didn't see the movie, no way am I going to spoil it.

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Remember the scene in which Obi Wan died, and that became a motivation for Luke?

OK, I guess I spoiled something.

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No, this has always been a flaw in their rating system.

If most reviewers give positive reviews, but most of the reviews are only slightly positive, then the resulting score will look artificially high.

Same thing if most reviews are slightly negative. The resulting score looks artificially low.

Anyway, just got back from the movie. It kicked ass. It had all the same pieces, but the pieces were in different places, so it was different enough to be interesting, but similar enough that I kept thinking "This is what the prequel trilogy should've been."

I like the new characters a lot, especially Finn.

(Major spoilers below)

Show

The trailers were wonderfully misleading. I thought for sure Finn was going to be the new Jedi apprentice. Looks like Rey will fill that role. Also, it seems obvious that she is the sister of Kylo Ren and the daughter of Han & Leia, although they didn't say so explicitly. I kept getting mad at Han and Leia for not saying anything to her.

Now we know why Kylo Ren idolizes Darth Vader. He does not measure up, and that's a good thing. He is a more vulnerable villain, and we get to see his conflict between the light and dark side.

There was definitely a moment during the big lightsaber battle when Rey gave into the dark side a bit, so I expect her to be as conflicted as her brother, but from the other side.

What I really want to know is whether or not Finn is force sensitive and whether or not he will also receive Jedi training. Kylo Ren may be a pale imitation of Darth Vader, but Finn managed to go toe to toe with him in a lightsaber battle despite the fact that Finn is completely untrained in lightsaber combat. Also, how did he overcome his stormtrooper conditioning if he isn't force sensitive?

Poe (the ace pilot of the Resistance and owner of BB-8) was the weakest of the new characters. Hopefully, once they flesh him out, he'll be more interesting, as he did not get much screen time.

Show

I loved Poe!! I thought the very first scenes between him and Kylo Ren were pure gold and set the tone for the entire movie. Hotshot pilot with an attitude and big mouth - reminded me of a young Han Solo. I agree he could have used more screen time.

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The friendship chemistry between Poe and Finn was indeed magical, but Poe seemed too much like a cookie cutter good guy. As for Kylo Ren

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Kylo Ren = Zuko
I like him so far. Probably would have been better if Anakin in episode 3 was more like Kylo.