Someone threatens suicide

[BH]

It was MadMordigan wasnt it?

 

[Toni]

My guess would be that the breakups were not what triggered the suicides but rather, removed an impediment that was keeping the person from deciding to die. It’s just easier to blame a dramatic and difficult event. Likely they were suicidal for a while. People can be good at masking depression. It’s a cruel disease that makes it difficult to reach for help as one of the major components of the disease.

 

[southernhybrid]

It was MadMordigan wasnt it?

I forgot his name, but I think you're right. It was sad.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

My guess would be that the breakups were not what triggered the suicides but rather, removed an impediment that was keeping the person from deciding to die. It’s just easier to blame a dramatic and difficult event. Likely they were suicidal for a while. People can be good at masking depression. It’s a cruel disease that makes it difficult to reach for help as one of the major components of the disease.

Or that the relationship was the last thing of value in their life.

Or that their life expectancy was less than the period of suffering from losing a partner. (The one suicide I'm aware of the reasons was sort of like this--broke her hip, she knew she wouldn't live to see it heal.)

 

[Politesse]

I went to the visitation yesterday. Could not kake the funeral today. The funeral home people said she shot herself in the head with a gun but they did not know why she did it. I know she had a lesbian relationship with a woman and she was part of a Catholic family. i hope that had nothing to do with it.

Lot of us queers checking out early, lately. No surprise, given the circumstances. No one has our back.

 

[Toni]

I went to the visitation yesterday. Could not kake the funeral today. The funeral home people said she shot herself in the head with a gun but they did not know why she did it. I know she had a lesbian relationship with a woman and she was part of a Catholic family. i hope that had nothing to do with it.

Lot of us queers checking out early, lately. No surprise, given the circumstances. No one has our back.

Hey, now. I see lots of allies.

That said: as a woman, I’ve been feeling a bit hopeless. And worried as hell for friends and family who are not white or cis/straight males, Christian, or necessarily born in the US or able bodied. Hell, if he both tanks the stock market and abolishes SS, we’ll starve to death

 

[gmbteach]

I went to the visitation yesterday. Could not kake the funeral today. The funeral home people said she shot herself in the head with a gun but they did not know why she did it. I know she had a lesbian relationship with a woman and she was part of a Catholic family. i hope that had nothing to do with it.

Lot of us queers checking out early, lately. No surprise, given the circumstances. No one has our back.

Hey, now. I see lots of allies.

That said: as a woman, I’ve been feeling a bit hopeless. And worried as hell for friends and family who are not white or cis/straight males, Christian, or necessarily born in the US or able bodied. Hell, if he both tanks the stock market and abolishes SS, we’ll starve to death

He is the next Hitler, IMO. I cannot see him tolerating anyone who isn't orange!

 

[Politesse]

I went to the visitation yesterday. Could not kake the funeral today. The funeral home people said she shot herself in the head with a gun but they did not know why she did it. I know she had a lesbian relationship with a woman and she was part of a Catholic family. i hope that had nothing to do with it.

Lot of us queers checking out early, lately. No surprise, given the circumstances. No one has our back.

Hey, now. I see lots of allies.

That said: as a woman, I’ve been feeling a bit hopeless. And worried as hell for friends and family who are not white or cis/straight males, Christian, or necessarily born in the US or able bodied. Hell, if he both tanks the stock market and abolishes SS, we’ll starve to death

All of our "liberal" "allies" are lining up to throw us to the wolves - or at least the unemployment line - before a single shot has even been fired. All Trump has to do is make a suggestion, and our bosses and friends and neighbors are fighting to turn us in. You try living in a world like this.

Some of these companies that just ended their "DEI" and medical care for their queer employees will still want a float in June, too! I hope someone comes along and pops every. last. balloon.

 

[gmbteach]

I went to the visitation yesterday. Could not kake the funeral today. The funeral home people said she shot herself in the head with a gun but they did not know why she did it. I know she had a lesbian relationship with a woman and she was part of a Catholic family. i hope that had nothing to do with it.

Lot of us queers checking out early, lately. No surprise, given the circumstances. No one has our back.

Hey, now. I see lots of allies.

That said: as a woman, I’ve been feeling a bit hopeless. And worried as hell for friends and family who are not white or cis/straight males, Christian, or necessarily born in the US or able bodied. Hell, if he both tanks the stock market and abolishes SS, we’ll starve to death

All of our "liberal" "allies" are lining up to throw us to the wolves - or at least the unemployment line - before a single shot has even been fired. All Trump has to do is make a suggestion, and our bosses and friends and neighbors are fighting to turn us in. You try living in a world like this.

Some of these companies that just ended their "DEI" and medical care for their queer employees will still want a float in June, too! I hope someone comes along and pops every. last. balloon.

We have a spare room.

 

[Politesse]

Thanks gmbteach, that means a lot to me. Oh, I'd be just like my great-aunt Alice, sneaking away to Australia to get married...

 

[southernhybrid]

I went to the visitation yesterday. Could not kake the funeral today. The funeral home people said she shot herself in the head with a gun but they did not know why she did it. I know she had a lesbian relationship with a woman and she was part of a Catholic family. i hope that had nothing to do with it.

Lot of us queers checking out early, lately. No surprise, given the circumstances. No one has our back.

Hey, now. I see lots of allies.

That said: as a woman, I’ve been feeling a bit hopeless. And worried as hell for friends and family who are not white or cis/straight males, Christian, or necessarily born in the US or able bodied. Hell, if he both tanks the stock market and abolishes SS, we’ll starve to death

He is the next Hitler, IMO. I cannot see him tolerating anyone who isn't orange!

Sadly, I think you're right. I've been secluded all week, partly because we had an inch of snow and my entire city has been shut down. This morning I'm going to the senior center and will hopefully see a few of my Black female friends and see how they are holding up. I went to check to see our city government site on Facebook yesterday to see if garbage collection had been changed due to the snow and I ended up briefly on the city discussion site. I should have avoided it. It was full of MAGAs saying hateful things. They even said hateful things about the nice female Bishop who asked Trump to be kind. These are the so called Christians who love MAGA. They can't even stand a "liberal" Christian, imagine what they would say about atheists. I never post on FB and I usually only visit to see what's going on with my city government. I knew better than to visit that discussion page but morbid curiosity got the best of me. A Black male friend of ours told us that some of his Black coworkers are MAGAs. I wonder if they have any regrets yet.

Our little local Freethought group hasn't even met in a couple of months. I feel like the world is falling apart, and I read that a lot of European countries are following in the same direction, hating immigrants and gay folks etc. WTF! The article I read mentioned France, Italy, Germany and a few others. Humans are the worst species. We have a long history of destroying our own habitat and killing each other. Damn it! I guess this should have been put in rants.

 

[Toni]

I went to the visitation yesterday. Could not kake the funeral today. The funeral home people said she shot herself in the head with a gun but they did not know why she did it. I know she had a lesbian relationship with a woman and she was part of a Catholic family. i hope that had nothing to do with it.

Lot of us queers checking out early, lately. No surprise, given the circumstances. No one has our back.

Hey, now. I see lots of allies.

That said: as a woman, I’ve been feeling a bit hopeless. And worried as hell for friends and family who are not white or cis/straight males, Christian, or necessarily born in the US or able bodied. Hell, if he both tanks the stock market and abolishes SS, we’ll starve to death

All of our "liberal" "allies" are lining up to throw us to the wolves - or at least the unemployment line - before a single shot has even been fired. All Trump has to do is make a suggestion, and our bosses and friends and neighbors are fighting to turn us in. You try living in a world like this.

Some of these companies that just ended their "DEI" and medical care for their queer employees will still want a float in June, too! I hope someone comes along and pops every. last. balloon.

Not all of us. Not me. FWIW, I have family members and friends for whom I am terrified.

No, I am not worried about myself being deported but I am worried about people I love deeply being deported. And whether that means I follow them or not. No it is not the same as your situation— it’s one degree removed. I’m terrified that a family member and her wife who live/teach in a deep red state won’t make it to the end of the semester at which point they will move to a bluer state that seems more friendly. My state is blue but like most states, that mostly means pockets of blue in urban areas in a more rural red state. I have a daughter, a grand daughter, de facto daughters in law and nieces and great nieces. I am horrified and sickened and no I am not complying in advance. I have long time friends I cannot bear to be around and that may never change. No, it’s not the same as being afraid for myself. I have a kid in the reserves who has served in combat areas when he was active duty. I know that it is not physically possible that I did not sleep during that deployment but no, I do not remember sleeping. No that is not the same as being there myself.

From my position of relative safety, I am not simply tolerating what I must. I am fighting back in every way that I can find.

I also have a spare room.

 

[BH]

I have a niece who is half white half Hispanic, a step niece who is full Hispanic and two cousins that are half white half black. These relatives are all loved dearly by me and accepted by most family as family.

The race issue is just too easy political tinder for politicians to try to use to stir up controversy. There have been twotimes I as a white man have lost out on promotions because I was not a female or a minority. The promoting managers had enough respect for me to tell me this was the case. It isn't just the government monitoring businesses to make sure the workplace is as diverse as the area you are doing business is, its also the insurance company ensuring you in case of lawsuits. Not only is having bodies of a certain gender and race in the right numerical proportion have to be met you have to have the right percentages up and down the wage range.

I'm not bitter. I have always been able to find a job that I could pay my bills with and even though it is unfair you may lose out to someone simply because of your race and gender since I am a white male I understand that in some places without such protections minority and females would be kept out of positions because they are female and minority.

Race issues always cause the general public to lose. The only winners are people like Trump who use it to stir up support.

The only way perfect fairness can be achieved is for there to not be sexism and racism anymore. Until that is the case the solutions to it as a problem will always cause problems someone who does not deserve it. And that just means for the time being there is no perfect solution .

 

[southernhybrid]

Getting back to the subject of suicide, my neighbor told me once again that she wants to end her life, has nothing to live for, and is in severe pain. This time, I texted her nephew and niece and asked them if they would call to check on her, as this will make her feel as if someone cares about her. She has told me she wants to die so many times that it's getting old and wearing me down. About an hour later, she hinted that she wanted me to drive her to her doctor's appointment to have a procedure done on her neck to lesson her pain. She had refused the procedure before but is desperate now. I told her assuming I was home on that day, I'd drop her off and pick her up when the procedure is over. it's hard to know when someone is seriously considering suicide or just a drama queen. Yes. My neighbor does suffer from depression, but she is also a drama queen. I hope her family does call her, as she recently has been cut off from her other two family members. The truth is that she has done this to herself. Our dental hygienist told Mr. Sohy that she doesn't know how Miss Lonely Hearts is going to exist after we move. Oh well. I do think if someone is 79 years old and feels they have nothing to live for, they should have the right to commit suicide, but I don't think my neighbor's threats are serious, as I've heard them for years. What would you all do with a neighbor like her?

OMG! Going back off topic. Trump is saying he thinks we should eliminate FEMA. WTF! ICE raided a business in Newark, NJ earlier today. I grew up in a town that borders Newark. Newark has always been made up of minorities, mostly Black folks back in the day. I imagine there are a lot of immigrants there now as well. I worry about the sweet Mexican immigrants that work in several of the restaurants here in town. One can barely speak English. WE have at least 5 or 6 Mexican restaurants town and I knew a cook who was an undocumented one who worked in a small town about 20 miles from here. What will become of these lovely people now that the felon is in charge!

Back to my neighbor. Her niece just texted me and said she would call her and they will take her to lunch this weekend. She said she knew my neighbor had been down more than usual. I don't really think she's suicidal, but I do think she probably wishes she was dead at times. I get that as a fellow chronic pain sufferer. I read that most everyone who suffers from chronic pain has suicide in the back of their minds, even if they never act on it.

 

[gmbteach]

Thanks gmbteach, that means a lot to me. Oh, I'd be just like my great-aunt Alice, sneaking away to Australia to get married...

And the anthropological studies you could do? WOW!