PUTIN: The US is planning false-flag attacks in Syria to frame Assad for using chemical weapons

[laughing dog]

How do they know that? Seems awful convenient and that sentiment allows any leader to commit any atrocity on the basis that the claim that no investigation will be fair.

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The irony here is that you are not fooling anyone.

 

[whichphilosophy]

You don't condemn a particular party/parties and then conduct an investigation; you conduct an investigation first. To do as prescribed is a sublime to asininity in thought and deed. The previous investigations did not visit the sites as given below so naturally this should also be done so there is less likelihood of conclusions being pulled out of places where the sun don't shine.

Your response is a sublime to asininity. Please show the condemnation.

And, more importantly, there is nothing stopping Russia from introducing a resolution calling for an investigation. Yet the paymaster of internet trolls has yet to introduce one into the UN security council.
Now, why is that?

One possible explanation is that Russia knows that Assad did it.

We can speculate all we want. It could have been the White Hats, Syrian Army, rebels, Russians or ISIS in disguise, so a proper investigation is required by the UN to establish the facts. At the moment it's not 100% clear who did this.

Here are references from the news.


http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/13/russia-vetoes-un-resolution-to-condemn-syria-chemical-attack.html

Russia vetoes UN resolution to condemn Syria chemical attack
Russia vetoed a U.N. resolution Wednesday that would have condemned the reported use of chemical weapons in a town in northern Syria and demanded a speedy investigation, triggering clashes between Moscow and the measure's Western backers.

http://www.politico.eu/article/putin-russia-wants-u-n-to-investigate-syrian-chemical-attack/

As the U.S. and Russia trade barbs over last week’s Syria missile strike, Russian President Vladimir Putin said Tuesday his nation will seek an investigation by the United Nations into last week’s chemical weapons attack, which the U.S. and others have blamed on the Syrian government, according to the Associated Press.
From the article quoted in this thread.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/...chemical-weapons-syria-idlib-2017-4?r=US&IR=T

We are going to officially turn to the corresponding UN structure in the Hague and to call on the international community to thoroughly investigate these actions.

 

[Will Wiley]

Deleted Daily Mail Online Article: “US Backed Plan for Chemical Weapon Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad”

This article was first published by GR in June 2013, the author is the truthnewsinternational blogsite.

In January 29, 2013, Britain’s most popular Daily Newspaper, in its online version Dailymail.co.uk published an article titled:

U.S. ‘backed plan to launch chemical weapon attack on Syria and blame it on Assad’s regime’

A few days later they pulled the article.

What the reason was for the deletion remains unclear. The article was published at this URL:

http://dailymail.co.uk/news/article...chemical-weapon-attack-Syria-blame-Assad.html

There exists a cached version of the article which can be found here:

http://web.archive.org/web/20130129...chemical-weapon-attack-Syria-blame-Assad.html

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

I will say this though about the op...

Assad using chemical weapons against 100 or so people as a one time event makes little sense.

 

[Jayjay]

Investigation? You mean like the one proposed that Russia vetoed?

Russia vetoed a UN resolution Wednesday that would have required Syria to cooperate with investigators and face full accountability after a brutal chemical attack in that country.

They vetoed because it put a blame on Syrian government in it

You can't expect JH to actually read the resolution.

Here is the text of the resolution:

http://www.un.org/en/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=S/2017/315

It does not explicitly blame Syria, but it does put some strict requirements for Syria to hand over their flight schedules and give access to air bases, among other things. That was the real reason Russia vetoed it, not because it was going to be a "lynch mob". Russia doesn't want any investigation where it or its allies would be obligated to cooperate.

 

[Jayjay]

Deleted Daily Mail Online Article: “US Backed Plan for Chemical Weapon Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad”

This article was first published by GR in June 2013, the author is the truthnewsinternational blogsite.

In January 29, 2013, Britain’s most popular Daily Newspaper, in its online version Dailymail.co.uk published an article titled:

U.S. ‘backed plan to launch chemical weapon attack on Syria and blame it on Assad’s regime’

A few days later they pulled the article.

What the reason was for the deletion remains unclear. The article was published at this URL:

http://dailymail.co.uk/news/article...chemical-weapon-attack-Syria-blame-Assad.html

There exists a cached version of the article which can be found here:

http://web.archive.org/web/20130129...chemical-weapon-attack-Syria-blame-Assad.html

What the reason was for the deletion is not at all unclear. Daily Mail settled a libel law suit where it agreed to pay £100,000 in damages and published the following apology:

the defendant offers its sincere apologies to the claimants for the damage and distress caused by the publication of these false allegations, which had appeared on US websites.

"The defendant acknowledges that the emails in question were completely fabricated and that there is no question of any of the claimants being involved – or even considering becoming involved – in the heinous actions to which the article referred. The defendant is pleased to set the record straight."

This is what you get when your source is infowars or other crackpot websites.

 

[whichphilosophy]

Investigation? You mean like the one proposed that Russia vetoed?

Russia vetoed a UN resolution Wednesday that would have required Syria to cooperate with investigators and face full accountability after a brutal chemical attack in that country.

They vetoed because it put a blame on Syrian government in it

You can't expect JH to actually read the resolution.

Here is the text of the resolution:

http://www.un.org/en/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=S/2017/315

It does not explicitly blame Syria, but it does put some strict requirements for Syria to hand over their flight schedules and give access to air bases, among other things. That was the real reason Russia vetoed it, not because it was going to be a "lynch mob". Russia doesn't want any investigation where it or its allies would be obligated to cooperate.

That's not what Putin is reported to have said. It does make sense for the UN to carry out an impartial investigation where unlike previous times the inspectors will actually visit the suspect areas.

http://www.politico.eu/article/putin...emical-attack/

As the U.S. and Russia trade barbs over last week’s Syria missile strike, Russian President Vladimir Putin said Tuesday his nation will seek an investigation by the United Nations into last week’s chemical weapons attack, which the U.S. and others have blamed on the Syrian government, according to the Associated Press.

 

[Will Wiley]

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[Will Wiley]

I will say this though about the op...

Assad using chemical weapons against 100 or so people as a one time event makes little sense.

Right when he was about to defeat ISIS and after America had said it doesn't mind if he stays. Yeah right. just at that time he decides to use chemical weapons on some children.

http://thesaker.is/a-multi-level-an...missile-attack-on-syria-and-its-consequences/

I don’t think that anybody seriously believes that Assad or anybody else in the Syrian government really ordered a chemical weapons attack on anybody. To believe that it would require you to find the following sequence logical: first, Assad pretty much wins the war against Daesh which is in full retreat. Then, the US declares that overthrowing Assad is not a priority anymore (up to here this is all factual and true). Then, Assad decides to use weapons he does not have. He decides to bomb a location with no military value, but with lots of kids and cameras. Then, when the Russians demand a full investigation, the Americans strike as fast as they can before this idea gets any support. And now the Americans are probing a possible Russian role in this so-called attack. Frankly, if you believe any of that, you should immediately stop reading and go back to watching TV. For the rest of us, there are three options:

a classical US-executed false flag
a Syrian strike on a location which happened to be storing some kind of gas, possibly chlorine, but most definitely not sarin. This option requires you to believe in coincidences. I don’t. Unless,
the US fed bad intelligence to the Syrians and got them to bomb a location where the US knew that toxic gas was stored

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[Will Wiley]

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[Harry Bosch]

I will say this though about the op...

Assad using chemical weapons against 100 or so people as a one time event makes little sense.

I think that it makes perfect sense. The attack comes at a time when his military is overstretched. Chemical weapons are cheap. They are effective. They instill fear in the population. Civilians won't want to stay in the area. He wants to clear out the area that he bombs.

 

[whichphilosophy]

I will say this though about the op...

Assad using chemical weapons against 100 or so people as a one time event makes little sense.

I think that it makes perfect sense. The attack comes at a time when his military is overstretched. Chemical weapons are cheap. They are effective. They instill fear in the population. Civilians won't want to stay in the area. He wants to clear out the area that he bombs.

Whatever his perceived motives an independent UN investigation including visits to the Syrian airbase and the immediate and surrounding areas where the Siren Gas hit. This is what Putin asked for and this sounds reasonable and should be a standard procedure before assigning blame to anyone.

 

[Jayjay]

Investigation? You mean like the one proposed that Russia vetoed?

Russia vetoed a UN resolution Wednesday that would have required Syria to cooperate with investigators and face full accountability after a brutal chemical attack in that country.

They vetoed because it put a blame on Syrian government in it

You can't expect JH to actually read the resolution.

Here is the text of the resolution:

http://www.un.org/en/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=S/2017/315

It does not explicitly blame Syria, but it does put some strict requirements for Syria to hand over their flight schedules and give access to air bases, among other things. That was the real reason Russia vetoed it, not because it was going to be a "lynch mob". Russia doesn't want any investigation where it or its allies would be obligated to cooperate.

That's not what Putin is reported to have said. It does make sense for the UN to carry out an impartial investigation where unlike previous times the inspectors will actually visit the suspect areas.

http://www.politico.eu/article/putin...emical-attack/

As the U.S. and Russia trade barbs over last week’s Syria missile strike, Russian President Vladimir Putin said Tuesday his nation will seek an investigation by the United Nations into last week’s chemical weapons attack, which the U.S. and others have blamed on the Syrian government, according to the Associated Press.

Yet Russia vetoed such a resolution on Wednesday. What Putin says and what he does are two completely different things.

If you read the text of the draft resolution that was vetoed, it urges all parties to give access to the area. But it is a war zone currently controlled by non-state actors, and there is nothing that any resolution could do about it.

 

[whichphilosophy]

Investigation? You mean like the one proposed that Russia vetoed?

Russia vetoed a UN resolution Wednesday that would have required Syria to cooperate with investigators and face full accountability after a brutal chemical attack in that country.

They vetoed because it put a blame on Syrian government in it

You can't expect JH to actually read the resolution.

Here is the text of the resolution:

http://www.un.org/en/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=S/2017/315

It does not explicitly blame Syria, but it does put some strict requirements for Syria to hand over their flight schedules and give access to air bases, among other things. That was the real reason Russia vetoed it, not because it was going to be a "lynch mob". Russia doesn't want any investigation where it or its allies would be obligated to cooperate.

That's not what Putin is reported to have said. It does make sense for the UN to carry out an impartial investigation where unlike previous times the inspectors will actually visit the suspect areas.

http://www.politico.eu/article/putin...emical-attack/

As the U.S. and Russia trade barbs over last week’s Syria missile strike, Russian President Vladimir Putin said Tuesday his nation will seek an investigation by the United Nations into last week’s chemical weapons attack, which the U.S. and others have blamed on the Syrian government, according to the Associated Press.

Yet Russia vetoed such a resolution on Wednesday. What Putin says and what he does are two completely different things.

If you read the text of the draft resolution that was vetoed, it urges all parties to give access to the area. But it is a war zone currently controlled by non-state actors, and there is nothing that any resolution could do about it.

The airbase and the location where the gas is reported to be centred is accessible since the rebels have entertained many reporters in the area.

 

[barbos]

I will say this though about the op...

Assad using chemical weapons against 100 or so people as a one time event makes little sense.

I think that it makes perfect sense. The attack comes at a time when his military is overstretched. Chemical weapons are cheap. They are effective. They instill fear in the population. Civilians won't want to stay in the area. He wants to clear out the area that he bombs.

I think my theory here
fits well with everything.

I have another theory. I was looking at the list of the alleged chemical weapons use in this war and it looks like there have been quite few other cases reported which did not get much reactions from the world. I think both Assad and rebels have been using CW occasionally even after that 2013 attack and red line crossing. Russians knew that and more importantly americans knew that too, but as long as it was used carefully and resulted in mostly dead terrorists, they (US and russians) were willing to look the other way. This time it did not go according to plan. I think this explains seemingly unshaken support Assad still gets from Putin, who knows that it was a very unfortunate fuck-up and that americans know that too. But now, with that many dead children and no way to ignore it West wants Assad to be punished, Putin on the other hand stuck with Assad.

 

[repoman]

Whatever you do, believe everything Bana says:

 

[Jayjay]

How appropriate to post that on a day when Erdogan is being granted dictatorial powers in Turkey.