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Excellent idea! I can see how this would be threatening to some guys, though. I mean, the idea that some of your fellow males might have the wherewithal to examine their own beliefs and prejudices in a place where they won't be shamed by knuckle draggers for being honest or changing their minds must make some people feel like their ideological numbers are dwindling. Probably downright terrifying for some who have been led to believe anything but cave man sensibilities are acceptable among men.

Will there also be a place where women can "examine their own beliefs and prejudices" and talk about "toxic femininity", "female privilege" etc. where they won't be shamed by knuckle-dragging third-wave "intersectional" feminazis?
Of course not. That would not be politically correct comrade!

The whole idea that being male is "toxic" is a very sexist idea and is a fruit of extremist "intersectional" feminism.
 
Excellent idea! I can see how this would be threatening to some guys, though. I mean, the idea that some of your fellow males might have the wherewithal to examine their own beliefs and prejudices in a place where they won't be shamed by knuckle draggers for being honest or changing their minds must make some people feel like their ideological numbers are dwindling. Probably downright terrifying for some who have been led to believe anything but cave man sensibilities are acceptable among men.

Will there also be a place where women can "examine their own beliefs and prejudices" and talk about "toxic femininity", "female privilege" etc. where they won't be shamed by knuckle-dragging third-wave "intersectional" feminazis?
Of course not. That would not be politically correct comrade!

The whole idea that being male is "toxic" is a very sexist idea and is a fruit of extremist "intersectional" feminism.

OMG you men are so cute when you're all delusional and insecure and hysterical and stuff. :love:
 
How is this going to solve anything at all? The guys who are involved in campus rapes will be either ignorant or critical of this safe space designed for them.

On the contrary! Everybody can be falsely accused of rape under the definition of rape (any sex a female regrets any time in the future) employed on college campuses. Being a vegetable lasagna/granola/müsli who attends safe spaces on "toxic masculinity" will not save anybody!

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The kind of guy who would be the first to sign up for these self-hating safe spaces.
 
How is this going to solve anything at all? The guys who are involved in campus rapes will be either ignorant or critical of this safe space designed for them.

On the contrary! Everybody can be falsely accused of rape under the definition of rape (any sex a female regrets any time in the future) employed on college campuses. Being a vegetable lasagna/granola/müsli who attends safe spaces on "toxic masculinity" will not save anybody!

Be careful, now. Breathe. We can smell fear, you know. :)
 
How is this going to solve anything at all? The guys who are involved in campus rapes will be either ignorant or critical of this safe space designed for them.

On the contrary! Everybody can be falsely accused of rape under the definition of rape (any sex a female regrets any time in the future) employed on college campuses. Being a vegetable lasagna/granola/müsli who attends safe spaces on "toxic masculinity" will not save anybody!

and when you quack...
 
OMG you men are so cute when you're all delusional and insecure and hysterical and stuff. :love:
What is delusional about pointing out the sexism inherent in the feminist worldview? I can admit that there are bad guys out there who do bad things. Can you admit that there are bad girls who do bad things as well? If, then, a "toxic masculinity" safe space is needed to address the former, should not a "toxic femininity" safe space be needed to address the latter? Why the double standard? Why are feminists always so hostile to gender equality? if it is not about badmouthing men, it's not feminist enough ...
I know you have drank the feminist koolaid and believe that all men are bad ("toxic" as they call it) and all women good, but that does not make it correct.

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and when you quack...
I speak sense. For example when that Vassar girl had consensual sex with a guy (and in fact deflowered him) and then, one year later, claimed (without evidence and with, in fact, much evidence to the contrary) that she was "raped" and got him expelled. Same college where a provost once spoke favorably about false rape allegations.
But no, masculinity is so "privileged" on college campuses that guys can only study at the pleasure of random females who have the power to expel them on mere baseless accusation. :rolleyes:

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Be careful, now. Breathe. We can smell fear, you know. :)
That's not fear you smell, it's your wing-pits. :)
 
It's people who don't hold particularly hateful or prejudice views that inadvertently contribute through the subtle, small things that everyone thinks are no big deal and perfectly acceptable.
Oh yes, the nanoaggressions. Another of the myriad made-up things by the intersectional left that, like everything else they invent, only works one way.

That's what makes it so easy for abusers to do as they please.
The only abusers who have it easy on college campuses are women who falsely claim rape. They face infinitesimal chance of any consequences and a great chance that the object of their attack will get expelled even if there is no evidence he did anything wrong.

There's more leeway than conflict for abusers because of the nice guys not realizing their role in it. These guys, apparently, don't want to be that kind of nice guy anymore.
What the hell are you talking about?

It's no one's fault for being a product of their culture, but some men are not insecure or afraid of women and have the wherewithal to understand how those seemingly insignificant actions and acceptance and jokes create a hostile environment for people that they do not want to have to live in a hostile environment, and they're not so stupid or immature as to take it all personally.
Bullshit. Jokes are just that, jokes. Women joke about men, men joke about women. You want to declare the latter some sort of attack against the whole gender and tantamount to "abuse". But of course, the former is perfectly acceptable. Just like when Adria Richards (the dongle bitch) finds it perfectly acceptable to make penis jokes but thinks it's ok for her to get a guy fired because she overheard him make a joke about dongles.

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I stand in awe of your refutation.
 
Derec, sweetie, I really wish you'd give your cardiovascular system a rest. I worry about you.
 
Derec, sweetie, I really wish you'd give your cardiovascular system a rest. I worry about you.

No you don't. You'd love it if I dropped dead tomorrow.
All you have are ad hominems and insults.

Again, why are feminists like you so hostile to gender equality? Why is it so important to you and your fellow feminsist to attack men in general ("toxic masculinity" but no "toxic femininity")? And why are you so afraid to answer my points instead of attacking me as a person?
 
Derec, sweetie, I really wish you'd give your cardiovascular system a rest. I worry about you.

No you don't. You'd love it if I dropped dead tomorrow.
All you have are ad hominems and insults.

Again, why are feminists like you so hostile to gender equality? Why is it so important to you and your fellow feminsist to attack men in general ("toxic masculinity" but no "toxic femininity")? And why are you so afraid to answer my points instead of attacking me as a person?

I'm not the hostile one here. I'm all for intelligent men getting together to be honest about the world they live in and how they might help make it better. I do not attack men in general. I laugh at anti-feminists.

I would NOT by any means like it if you dropped dead! Your view of the world is questionable, but I have no hatred for you.

And is it really a crime to find you adorable when you're all mad and hysterical? Really? These are compliments and jokes, my little muffin cake.
 
Will there also be a place where women can "examine their own beliefs and prejudices" and talk about "toxic femininity", "female privilege" etc. where they won't be shamed by knuckle-dragging third-wave "intersectional" feminazis?
Of course not. That would not be politically correct comrade!
It's called the ladies rest room.
 
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Will there also be a place where women can "examine their own beliefs and prejudices" and talk about "toxic femininity", "female privilege" etc. where they won't be shamed by knuckle-dragging third-wave "intersectional" feminazis?
Of course not. That would not be politically correct comrade!
It's called the ladies rest room.

What, "knuckle-dragging third-wave "intersectional" feminazis" are not allowed in ladies' rooms? I mean, sure, they are no ladies, but still ...

Besides, how do you know what goes on in ladies' rooms? Is your real name Glenn Quagmire?
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Giggity!
 
I'm not the hostile one here.
Yes you are.
I'm all for intelligent men getting together to be honest about the world they live in and how they might help make it better. I do not attack men in general. I laugh at anti-feminists.
Fist of all, I doubt any genuinely intelligent men will join this little self-hate club. Second, it is not about "honesty" or about "making the world better" but about talking about how horrible men in general are. What do you think is meant by "toxic masculinity", especially when corresponding "toxic femininity" is declared off-limits?

I am all for both intelligent men and women getting together to be honest about the world they live in and how they might help make it better. However, "honest" means that discussion should not be constrained to politically correct "men are horrible, women are oppressed" nonsense.

I would NOT by any means like it if you dropped dead! Your view of the world is questionable, but I have no hatred for you.
As the Germans say, "Wer's glaubt wird selig!"

And is it really a crime to find you adorable when you're all mad and hysterical? Really? These are compliments and jokes, my little muffin cake.
If these words were said by a man to a woman, they would count as one of those "microaggressions" that "toxic masculinity" is inflicting on innocent, oppressed womenfolk. :rolleyes:
 
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/3/duke-university-launches-safe-space-men-consider-t/

Duke University is creating a “safe space” for male students to pore over the ways ...
Aside from the "pore" spelling by the article's author,

... The Men’s Project, which is sponsored by the Duke Women’s Center, aims to “create a space of brotherhood fellowship dedicated to interrogating male privilege and patriarchy as it exists in our lives, our campus and our society,” according to the university’s website.
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What's up with that? Nothing threatening there. :shrug:

... inadvertently contribute through the subtle, small things that everyone thinks are no big deal and perfectly acceptable. That's what makes it so easy for abusers to do as they please. There's more leeway than conflict for abusers because of the nice guys not realizing their role in it. These guys, apparently, don't want to be that kind of nice guy anymore. ...

Not so inadvertent or subtle. More like intentional and blatant. I guess I'm just too sensitive, though. :innocent1:
 
... The Men’s Project, which is sponsored by the Duke Women’s Center, aims to “create a space of brotherhood fellowship dedicated to interrogating male privilege and patriarchy as it exists in our lives, our campus and our society,” according to the university’s website.
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What's up with that? Nothing threatening there. :shrug:

Well, since it's not a safe space I think we can assume it's a threatening space.
 
It's called the ladies rest room.

What, "knuckle-dragging third-wave "intersectional" feminazis" are not allowed in ladies' rooms? I mean, sure, they are no ladies, but still ...
Well, any being that knuckle drags is not human.
Besides, how do you know what goes on in ladies' rooms? Is your real name Glenn Quagmire?
I listen when real women talk about their experiences.

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Fist of all, I doubt any genuinely intelligent men will join this little self-hate club. Second, it is not about "honesty" or about "making the world better" but about talking about how horrible men in general are. What do you think is meant by "toxic masculinity", especially when corresponding "toxic femininity" is declared off-limits?
I strongly doubt you have a clue what any of this is actually about.
 
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