Obesity returning due to feeling safe

[Bronzeage]

He's pretty, but wouldn't place in a body building competition.

What about Terry Crews? Wikipedia says he mocks "the stereotype of the gym-obsessed body builder"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW_99QcCTzE

I wonder where the stereotype that Terry Crews mocks came from.

 

[excreationist]

I wonder where the stereotype that Terry Crews mocks came from.

Maybe big wrestlers? In Idiocracy he was a former wrestler. (who became the President)

 

[ideologyhunter]

Fun facts about obesity: According to the World Health Organization, here are the top ten countries for adult obesity rates:
American Samoa
Nauru
Cook Islands
Tokelau
Tonga
Samoa
Palau
Kiribati
Marshall Islands
Kuwait
Who knew that so many island paradises were insulin archipelagoes? The WHO calls obesity a world health crisis (which makes them part of the Nanny State to the righties, I assume.) All ten of the countries listed have adult obesity rates of AT LEAST 60 PERCENT. Muumuus must be popular -- I am trying to imagine the clothing stores. In the U.S., the obesity rate is 38%, with another 30% at overweight, and about 33% at normal BMI levels.
I was 40 to 50 pounds overweight from my late 20s to my mid-50s, and absolutely the only way out of it was to find the time, energy, and most of all fun level to establish an exercise regimen that I could stick with. In my case, it was water aerobics; I do a one-hour workout every other day. I was retired when I started my exercise kick, and I'm almost positive I couldn't have pulled it off if I'd still been working (as an elementary teacher.) My favorite moment after I'd been at the exercise for 6 months and had lost about 50# was an acquaintance coming up to me with concern and sympathy on her face and the words, "Have you been really ill?"
There was a news feature recently that childhood obesity rates have fallen a bit in the U.S. I hope that continues -- it's tragic to see obese kids and wonder if they'll see their mid-30s.

 

[southernhybrid]

....Last year, Medicaid paid for a stomach reduction surgery. We had lunch yesterday and I watched him eat a chicken wing (one) and about a tablespoon of coleslaw. He has lost 85 pounds up to this point.....

So then he won't be able to binge eat like many obese people do after losing weight.

That doesn't seem to be possible.

My sister had that surgery and she has been able to keep off the 100 lbs, that she lost, but after about a year, appetite returns and a lot of people aren't able to keep the weight off. It's true that the diet must be modified, but people can still eat a lot of high calorie foods, just not as fast as they did prior to the surgery. My sister is terrified of gaining her weight back, so she lives on a diet that primarily consists of yogurt, a biscotti, and cereal for breakfast. She's lost her taste for meat, and she claims that most vegetables upset what's left of her stomach. She has to take laxatives because her diet has caused chronic constipation.

The most successful, but also most aggressive type of weight loss surgery is the bypass surgery that includes the removal of a large part of the colon. My brother in laws' step daughter had that surgery and has been able to keep her weight off without extreme dietary restrictions because a large amount of the food isn't absorbed. That is the surgery that's been around at least since the 70s. It's more controversial and has more risk factors, but most people will lose quite a bit of weight without gaining it back. Unfortunately, these surgeries are currently the only thing considered to be very effective for people who are extremely obese. According to my sister, who visits many discussion boards for people who have had the various surgeries, many people are very disappointed because the weight loss is not nearly as much as they had hoped. I think that is true primarily for people who need to lose over 2 or 300 lbs. People like my sister who only need to lose about 100 lbs. usually have a lot more success.

It's really sad that obesity has become so prevalent, as it's a big risk factor for hypertension, diabetes, some types of cancer, dementia, and renal failure. I wish we had better advice and ways to help the huge percentage of people who have eating disorders that lead to obesity. And yes. It's a disease. Sadly, a lot of physicians treat their obese patients very harshly, often shaming them.

I personally blame the American habit of eating out many of their meals in chain restaurants, as well as a high intake of sugary beverages as a large factor in why the country has so many obese folks. Most restaurant portions are more than enough for two or three people, when it comes to caloric content.

But, I agree that some people seem to think they are more attractive when they are obese. One year at work, some of the younger obese women that I worked with told me that I was too scrawny and they were all big beautiful women. Sadly, one of them had a massive stroke about five years later at the age of 45.

 

[TSwizzle]

I personally blame the American habit of eating out many of their meals in chain restaurants, as well as a high intake of sugary beverages as a large factor in why the country has so many obese folks. Most restaurant portions are more than enough for two or three people, when it comes to caloric content.

It's certainly a big part of it. People just eat too much crap. It's the kids I feel sorry for, where the parents either through ignorance, laziness or just don't care, give their kids crap to eat and drink.

 

[excreationist]

....I wish we had better advice and ways to help the huge percentage of people who have eating disorders that lead to obesity....

Maybe hypnosis that talks to their unconscious mind could help: e.g. Weight Loss Hypnosis

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

I personally blame the American habit of eating out many of their meals in chain restaurants, as well as a high intake of sugary beverages as a large factor in why the country has so many obese folks. Most restaurant portions are more than enough for two or three people, when it comes to caloric content.

It's certainly a big part of it. People just eat too much crap. It's the kids I feel sorry for, where the parents either through ignorance, laziness or just don't care, give their kids crap to eat and drink.

Amen to that. Kids go to a birthday party and are served hot dogs, coke and chips. Cake for dessert. Talk about a death wish.

Funny you should say that.

I have a good friend who has been Obese all his life. He's about 6'3" so when he was younger, he could carry. 280 pounds didn't look a lot different from 230 pounds. We probably had more lunches together than either of us has had haircuts. At every sitting, he easily consumed three times as much food as me, and I have a good appetite. There used to be a beer commercial honoring the inventor of the 3700 calorie taco salad. That was his go to lunch special at the Mexican place. Don't even ask about Chinese buffet.

As the decades went by, 280 slowly became 380 and then tipped 400. This eventually led to medical complications including diabetes, high blood pressure, kidney and liver function, and gout. Like any good Trump supporter, he turned to the government for help. He has been on Social Security Disability for the past 5 years.

Last year, Medicaid paid for a stomach reduction surgery. We had lunch yesterday and I watched him eat a chicken wing (one) and about a tablespoon of coleslaw. He has lost 85 pounds up to this point.

It's sort of like Dorthy and the ruby slippers. The solution to his problem was there all the time.

You are a man after my heart.

 

[bilby]

Fun facts about obesity: According to the World Health Organization, here are the top ten countries for adult obesity rates:
American Samoa
Nauru
Cook Islands
Tokelau
Tonga
Samoa
Palau
Kiribati
Marshall Islands
Kuwait
Who knew that so many island paradises were insulin archipelagoes? The WHO calls obesity a world health crisis (which makes them part of the Nanny State to the righties, I assume.) All ten of the countries listed have adult obesity rates of AT LEAST 60 PERCENT. Muumuus must be popular -- I am trying to imagine the clothing stores. In the U.S., the obesity rate is 38%, with another 30% at overweight, and about 33% at normal BMI levels.
I was 40 to 50 pounds overweight from my late 20s to my mid-50s, and absolutely the only way out of it was to find the time, energy, and most of all fun level to establish an exercise regimen that I could stick with. In my case, it was water aerobics; I do a one-hour workout every other day. I was retired when I started my exercise kick, and I'm almost positive I couldn't have pulled it off if I'd still been working (as an elementary teacher.) My favorite moment after I'd been at the exercise for 6 months and had lost about 50# was an acquaintance coming up to me with concern and sympathy on her face and the words, "Have you been really ill?"
There was a news feature recently that childhood obesity rates have fallen a bit in the U.S. I hope that continues -- it's tragic to see obese kids and wonder if they'll see their mid-30s.

In the pacific islands, being overweight is seen as sexually attractive and highly desirable. In much the same way that having very pale skin (and a bit of extra weight) was seen as desirable in sixteenth century England. It's a look you can only get through genuine wealth - people who don't have to do hard labour are the only ones who can achieve it.

It makes things very difficult for chancers. You can maybe fool a father into letting you marry his daughter, if he thinks you are rich because you drive a flashy car and wear a Rolex; But maybe you hired the Ferrari, and maxed out your Mastercard to get the wristwatch. But having lifelong access to excess food, while not having to move around so fast as to burn it off, is much harder to fake.

This worked very well for centuries - if you turned up on any of the islands to trade, you could identify the king instantly, because he was five times the size of everyone else.

But then after WWII, the islands stopped being places where getting enough to eat was only achievable through hard labour. Cheap American calories became available to almost everyone. And of course, they all wanted to look like royalty.

In sixteenth century England, you could spread toxic paste onto your face to make yourself pale (like the Queen) rather than brown like a peasant, and therefore desirable. That it led to an early and painful death wasn't about to stop anyone.

Gorging on Spam is the pacific islander equivalent of that white mercuric makeup. When obesity is both desirable and easy to achieve, it's hardly surprising that you get a lot of it.

 

[gmbteach]

Fun facts about obesity: According to the World Health Organization, here are the top ten countries for adult obesity rates:
American Samoa
Nauru
Cook Islands
Tokelau
Tonga
Samoa
Palau
Kiribati
Marshall Islands
Kuwait
Who knew that so many island paradises were insulin archipelagoes? The WHO calls obesity a world health crisis (which makes them part of the Nanny State to the righties, I assume.) All ten of the countries listed have adult obesity rates of AT LEAST 60 PERCENT. Muumuus must be popular -- I am trying to imagine the clothing stores. In the U.S., the obesity rate is 38%, with another 30% at overweight, and about 33% at normal BMI levels.
I was 40 to 50 pounds overweight from my late 20s to my mid-50s, and absolutely the only way out of it was to find the time, energy, and most of all fun level to establish an exercise regimen that I could stick with. In my case, it was water aerobics; I do a one-hour workout every other day. I was retired when I started my exercise kick, and I'm almost positive I couldn't have pulled it off if I'd still been working (as an elementary teacher.) My favorite moment after I'd been at the exercise for 6 months and had lost about 50# was an acquaintance coming up to me with concern and sympathy on her face and the words, "Have you been really ill?"
There was a news feature recently that childhood obesity rates have fallen a bit in the U.S. I hope that continues -- it's tragic to see obese kids and wonder if they'll see their mid-30s.

In the pacific islands, being overweight is seen as sexually attractive and highly desirable. In much the same way that having very pale skin (and a bit of extra weight) was seen as desirable in sixteenth century England. It's a look you can only get through genuine wealth - people who don't have to do hard labour are the only ones who can achieve it.

It makes things very difficult for chancers. You can maybe fool a father into letting you marry his daughter, if he thinks you are rich because you drive a flashy car and wear a Rolex; But maybe you hired the Ferrari, and maxed out your Mastercard to get the wristwatch. But having lifelong access to excess food, while not having to move around so fast as to burn it off, is much harder to fake.

This worked very well for centuries - if you turned up on any of the islands to trade, you could identify the king instantly, because he was five times the size of everyone else.

But then after WWII, the islands stopped being places where getting enough to eat was only achievable through hard labour. Cheap American calories became available to almost everyone. And of course, they all wanted to look like royalty.

In sixteenth century England, you could spread toxic paste onto your face to make yourself pale (like the Queen) rather than brown like a peasant, and therefore desirable. That it led to an early and painful death wasn't about to stop anyone.

Gorging on Spam is the pacific islander equivalent of that white mercuric makeup. When obesity is both desirable and easy to achieve, it's hardly surprising that you get a lot of it.

Hmm Spam, with tinned potatoes and champignons drizzled with balsamic vinegar and garlic and chilli oil and cooked in the oven! Yummy!

 

[steve_bank]

Have you tried just saying no to food? No eating anything for a couple months will have a dramatic effect on your weight.

Easier said then done. Eating habits become set in the brain. It requires behavior modification over time just like any bad habit.

That is why quick weight loss diets mote often than not do not last because because the underlying habits remain.

Loosing 10 or even 20 pounds in one month is possible. Just limit calories and get rid of carbs. The problem is after 30 days you will start to feel like crap and want to eat a lot all over again. From my experience and others averaging 5 ponds a month is a reasonable goal.

This is the presumption diets delivered to your home get away with guaranteeing a min weight loss in 30 days.