barbos
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They overwhelmingly rejected it already.
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Great news! Over 20 dead in Orlando Night Club!
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Cheerful Charlie
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Well, we should have expected this to happen. The Westboro church creeps have applied for a permit to protest in Orlando. What a bunch of human turds.
RavenSky
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Don2 (Don1 Revised)
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Bank robberies?
Cheerful Charlie
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Unfortunate accidents with loaded guns. Culling the gene pool.
RavenSky
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Fascinating interviews with Sohail Ahmed
Sohail Ahmed - the former Islamic extremist - BBC Jeremy Vine
Sohail Ahmed - the former Islamic extremist who says he became radicalised to suppress his homosexuality.
Sohail Ahmed tells Jeremy Vine on Radio 2 why he turned his back on Islamic extremism.
[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_ZXUBUJbeE[/YOUTUBE]
and
THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW 6/17/16 (video)
Once on the brink of terror, former Islamic extremist looks back
Sohail Ahmed, a self-described reformed Islamic extremist, talks with Rachel Maddow about his motives and mindset as he considered committing acts of terror, and how being gay deepened his radicalization.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/reformed-islamic-extremist-looks-back-708013123527
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Sohail Ahmed - the former Islamic extremist - BBC Jeremy Vine
Sohail Ahmed - the former Islamic extremist who says he became radicalised to suppress his homosexuality.
Sohail Ahmed tells Jeremy Vine on Radio 2 why he turned his back on Islamic extremism.
[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_ZXUBUJbeE[/YOUTUBE]
and
THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW 6/17/16 (video)
Once on the brink of terror, former Islamic extremist looks back
Sohail Ahmed, a self-described reformed Islamic extremist, talks with Rachel Maddow about his motives and mindset as he considered committing acts of terror, and how being gay deepened his radicalization.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/reformed-islamic-extremist-looks-back-708013123527
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Derec
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Derec
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Especially when kids get hold of unsecured guns, right?
Also, idiots usually have no trouble overfilling the gene pool.
Derec
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Derec
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Reminds me of this Mohammed joke ...
And here is the the winner of the 1979 Sean Connery lookalike contest and man whom Jimmy Carter's UN ambassador called "some kind of saint" before Carter administration threw the Shah under the bus.
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Derec
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Derec
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As Alexander Pope said, "a little learning is a dangerous thing". Same goes for those who possess only a "modicum of critical thought" as you seem to.
The vast majority of those who embrace the Rebel Flag today are not in favor of "enslaving people". Vast majority also abhors attacks like that of Dylan Roof. So why go against the Rebel Flag just because of what Roof did?
There are many more Muslims who commit terrorism than Rebel Flag fans who murder black people. Islamic attacks are rather frequent (San Bernardino shootings were just last year, and let's not forget Brussels and Paris), Roof-style attacks rather rare.
There are also a high number of Muslims who think terrorism in the name of Islam is justified.
Your 99.9% is simply politically correct nonsense. I'm afraid you exhibit an infinitesimal "modicum of critical thinking".
Derec
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The Rebel Flag is more than a "symbol of Southern White Racism". Most people who embrace the flag today are not white racists. Dukes of Hazzard was not racist for example. There are even black people who like it.
Or a certain heiress aparent's husband.
General Lee is not a government institution. Neither is Walmart. Yet both were pressured to remove the flag because of one murderous racist. Yet even after Islamic terrorist attack after terrorist attack there is no call to treat Islamic symbols similarly.
I assume you meant to say "no". There are many countries that have Islamic symbols. Should they all remove them because of link between these symbols and terrorism?
Also, what's the deal with South Carolina?
Not relevant as the campaign against the Rebel Flag involved heavy pressure against private displays of the flag as well.
Now, my goal is not to remove Islamic symbols per se. But we should lighten up about the Confederate flag as well. What's sauce for the goose should be sauce for the gander after all.
Derec
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The Islamic Califate is no more. Islamic symbols are pure nostalgia and bigotry against the kafirs.
If the Islamic world is engaged in an theological war against the West isn't that even more of a reason to remove Islamic symbols?
Look at this thread and larger discussion after this terrorist attack. There is a lot of talk about guns but little to no talk about Islam. Obama even had a speech doubling down on his resistance to call spade a spade.
And while I do think gun laws should be reformed, Omar could just as easily have donned a suicide vest when he walked into Pulse. The main problem is radical Islam, not the weapons these terrorists choose.
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What planet are you from? There is a HELL of a lot of talk about Islam.
There's a flag????
fast
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If the stripes on her shirt countsYes.
There's a flag????
Tristan Scott
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As Alexander Pope said, "a little learning is a dangerous thing". Same goes for those who possess only a "modicum of critical thought" as you seem to.
The vast majority of those who embrace the Rebel Flag today are not in favor of "enslaving people". Vast majority also abhors attacks like that of Dylan Roof. So why go against the Rebel Flag just because of what Roof did?
There are many more Muslims who commit terrorism than Rebel Flag fans who murder black people. Islamic attacks are rather frequent (San Bernardino shootings were just last year, and let's not forget Brussels and Paris), Roof-style attacks rather rare.
There are also a high number of Muslims who think terrorism in the name of Islam is justified.
Your 99.9% is simply politically correct nonsense. I'm afraid you exhibit an infinitesimal "modicum of critical thinking".
As Benjamin Disraeli once said there are three kinds of lies: lies; damn lies; and statistics.
Statistics in themselves are fine, but it's how you use them. You can do as you have done here and cherry pick statistics to make a point. When you do that, as you have here, it's not so much a lack of critical thinking, but just plain dishonesty. Had you read the report accompanying the poll you would find several facts that you are conveniently ignoring. That is where critical thinking comes in.
1. Of all Muslims polled only 1% said that terror bombing was often justified. 7% said it was sometimes justified, depending on the target.
2. The highest group of American Muslims that felt terrorism was often or sometimes justified was among American born African American Muslims.
3. The percentage of Muslims who consider their religion before their being an American is almost exactly the same as Christians.
But most importantly the poll doesn't show the response to the same questions by non-Muslims. I haven't found any such polls, but I wouldn't be surprised if the numbers came out to be similar.
And where are you going to find a single-shot pistol? The only single-shot weapon on the market that I'm aware of is the break-action shotgun.
There are two more things that you might consider single-shot: the pump-action shotgun and the bolt-action rifle.