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A Response to the Skeptic's Annotated Bible (SAB) - Does Hell Exist?

The answer to the question is no. Hell as most people know it is a Christian adoption of pagan mythology, and isn't a Biblical teaching. The skeptic points out three possible interpretations. Those that don't go to heaven are tormented forever in hell; Those that don't go to heaven, just die; and Everyone goes to heaven after they die. None of these are correct Biblical teachings. The Bible teaches that a few people go to heaven to judge and rule with Christ Jesus, the rest of the people who have ever (or will ever have) lived will either live forever in paradise Earth or suffer everlasting destruction. Not a literal torment, as in hell, but a simple death.​

SAB: Yes, God tortures some people forever after they die.

No. Not literally. The Greek basanizo or related terms, can mean being restrained, as in Matthew 18:34 where the tormentors are jailers. (See Revelation reference below in this section #2) In modern colloquialism it is similar to telling someone if they jump off a cliff, they'll be sorry, not meaning sorry in a literal sense because they'll be dead. Romans 6:7. (Compare Translations) The wages of sin are death.

Daniel 12:2 doesn't convey the idea of hell. The meek shall inherit the earth and the disobedient will be destroyed.

Matthew 13:41-42 is a parable about the harvesting of crops after the weeds have been burned, beginning in verse 39. Jesus compares the disobedient to the weeds that would have been thrown into the fire and burned so that the crop may live. Fire was, in Bible times, the most thorough means of destruction.

Matthew 18:8-9 is a reference to Gehenna. Gehenna was a literal place which came to represent spiritual destruction. A figurative everlasting fire.

Matthew 22:1-14, the illustration of the marriage feast, is actually a pretty good account of Christianity. The King (God) invites his subjects (Jews) to the marriage feast of his son (Christ) and bride to be (anointed 144, 000) but they refuse. The first call went out from 29 - 33 CE during missionary work of Jesus' disciples (the King's slaves). The second call began at the wedding dinner (Pentecost 33 CE) and continued to 36 CE but still the subjects refused and even began to kill the slaves of the King. He became enraged and his armies destroyed them (70 CE). Since the subjects of the King had refused, he sent his slaves outside of the city (Jerusalem) to gather any who would attend (Gentiles) beginning in 36 CE. First the Roman army officer Cornelius and his family and continuing to this day. The man without the wedding garment is the apostate, who will be removed and thrown into the darkness. Which brings us to the next verse given by the skeptic:

Matthew 25:41, 46 - Verse 41 is a reference to the lake of fire which is symbolic of everlasting destruction and verse 46 is interesting in that the KJV uses the term everlasting punishment, or in other translations, cutting off. From the Greek kolasin, which literally means "lopping off or pruning."

Mark 9:43-48 is a reference to Gehenna, mentioned above. Gehenna was a literal place which came to represent spiritual destruction. A figurative everlasting fire.

Luke 16:22-24 is the illustration of Lazarus and the rich man. It isn't a literal/historical account. Jesus would later say that no man had ascended to heaven. (John 3:13)

John 5:28-29 in the KJV is a pretty poor translation. Compare John 5:29. Damnation comes from the Greek anastasin kriseos and the Latin resurrectionem iudicii, far more accurately translated as "judgment" or "resurrection to judgment." It is a reference to the resurrection of the unrighteous. (Acts 24:15) Those who have not been given the opportunity to know Jehovah God, though unrighteous, will be resurrected and given the opportunity to do so.

2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 deals with the judicial punishment of everlasting destruction of the disobedient.

Revelation 14:10-11; 20:10; Revelation 20:14-15 indicates that the wicked are tormented, from the Greek basanizo or related terms, which can mean being restrained, as in Matthew 18:34 where the "tormentors" are "jailers."

SAB: No, those that don't go to heaven, just die.

This is actually the closest interpretation to the truth according to the Bible. If it were reworded to say those that don't go to heaven or live forever on earth just die it would be correct.

Deuteronomy 29:20 - The book of God's remembrance is used throughout scripture to symbolize him taking note of those who are righteous and those who are not. The righteous to live and the unrighteous to die. This doesn't indicate that the righteous go to heaven or the unrighteous to hell, but that the meek shall inherit the Earth and live forever upon it and the unrighteous will suffer everlasting destruction. Death.

Psalm 1:4-6 - Interesting because the Hebrew word here translated as wind is the Hebrew ruach, which can also be translated as spirit. Not that this implies some spiritual connotation - quite the contrast - ruach simply means any invisible active force like breath, wind, or spirit. Like chaff, the thin covering on wheat and barley which is blown away with the wind after harvest the ungodly will be "blown away" in the end. Useless to a perfect creation without sin.

Psalm 34:16 - Interesting that the "remembrance" being removed can also be translated as the "mention" of them being removed. They are no longer remembered or talked about. Dissolved along with their sin.

Psalm 37:1-2; 37:20 refers to the corrupt evildoers who, through injustice and malice advance while the righteous gain nothing through wrongdoing. Those who rape, murder, steal, cheat and lie to get what they want corrupt the system, or world. Their demise would cease this destructive pattern.

Psalm 69:28 again refers to the book of life, those noted by God as deserving of life in a perfected heaven and earth, free from sin.

Proverbs 10:25 is a variation of both the chaff in the wind and the end of sin, death and destruction. The results of sin may seem like a storm now, but there are better days ahead.

Proverbs 24:20 reflects the sentiment in some verses mentioned earlier. Not only will the wicked be destroyed but the illumination of their works will be a thing of the past. Their corrupt system ended along with its effects.

Obadiah 1:16 - Again, the remembrance and mention of them will be no more. Forgotten.

Romans 6:21, 23 indicate an end to sin, which is disobedience to Jehovah, the creator, and brings death. These are interesting scriptures in the context of a discussion about hell, because if the wages of sin are death, then at death the debt of sin is paid in full. To suffer beyond that in a literal fiery torment would be overcharging. Romans 6:7 makes it clear when it says: "For he who has died has been acquitted from [his] sin."

1 Corinthians 3:17 - It is important to realize what exactly is meant here by the "temple" or "church" of God. It isn't, of course, a building which houses a congregation. It is the congregation itself. The people. As 1 Corinthians 3:9, 16 indicates. In addition to persecutors this may also apply to apostate Christianity who spiritually destroy God's true congregation.

2 Corinthians 2:15-16 - The Roman soldiers would parade victorious through the city of Rome and burn incense in the altars, perfuming the air. To the Romans it was a sweet smell representing honor, promotion and riches. But to their captives it represented the unpleasant reminder that they would be executed at the end of the parade. Likewise, to those who accepted the Christian message and those who reject the message.

Galatians 6:8 - The indulgence of sinful human desires corrupts one in a way that leads to death.

Philippians 3:18-19 - These verses properly convey the idea that the sinful will be destroyed, but don't imply that the righteous will all go to heaven. On an unrelated note, the KJV uses the word cross where torture stake or pole should have been used. Jesus didn't die on a cross.

James 1:15 - A sinful nature leads to destruction and death. Through sin we all die, but if, during a brief life in faith, we avoid a sinful nature which corrupts the spirit as well as the flesh and so there is the hope of a resurrection to eternal life without sin rather than eternal destruction.

James 4:12 - Not everyone agrees with the morality dictated by the lawgiver, whether God or man, but as men we have no authority to question the morality of God. We may still not agree, but God the lawgiver has the authority to judge.

James 5:20 - Interesting because some Christians think that being "saved" is predestined, but this verse along with others considered in this article indicate that the sinful can turn back from destructive ways, and the righteous can turn to sinful ways.

SAB: No, everyone goes to heaven after they die.

1 Corinthians 15:12 - This chapter isn't dealing with mankind in general, but rather only those who have "fallen asleep in death in union with Christ." 1 Corinthians 15:18.

1 Timothy 4:10 - Christ gave himself a corresponding ransom for all, but not all will accept it. 1 Timothy 4:10 points this out. Paul said that Jesus was a savior for all men, potentially, but specifically for the faithful.

1 John 2:2 - "Our sins" refers to the sins of the anointed Christians (144, 000) like John himself, who would judge in heaven with Christ, but also the people of the world who have the possibility of resurrection to everlasting life in paradise earth.

SAB: No, everyone dies. There is no heaven or hell.

Put simply, the Biblical words heaven and hell mean, respectively, high and grave.

Joshua 23:14 - Joshua was dying with the hope of resurrection. God is in hell in the sense that his attention is fixed upon the grave to resurrect the faithful. Like Joshua. (Ecclesiastes 9:10; Amos 9:1-2 Compare; Proverbs 15:11; Psalm 139:8 Compare)

Job 7:9; 14:10-14; 20:7 - At Job 7:9 Job may have been referring to the permanence of death in this world or he might have been pointing out that resurrection was out of his control. At Job 14:10 there is some variation between the Masoretic Hebrew texts and the Septuagint. The former says "Where is he?" and the latter says "he is no more." Compare Job 14:10. But, interestingly, at Job 20:7 there is no such variation. One thing is sure, Job believed in the possibility of resurrection. (Job 14:13-15)

Psalm 6:5; 31:17; Psalm 88:5; 115:17; Ecclesiastes 3:19-21; Ecclesiastes 9:2-6; Isaiah 38:18 all have to do with death and the grave. In the case of hell, it is really easy to sort the theological - the pagan influenced apostate Christian doctrine - from the scriptural truth.

First, the wages of sin are death, not a literal torment in hell. (Romans 6:7) The soul is mortal/destructable so it can't be tortured literally forever in hell. (Ezekiel 18:4 compare; Matthew 10:28) The Biblical soul is the life/blood of any breathing animal or human. The Hebrew word translated soul literally means "breather." The immaterial soul of pagan origin, (Socrates/Plato) as well as spirit creatures - Satan and his demons - wouldn't be harmed by literal fire. (Exodus 3:2) Hell and death are thrown into the figurative lake of fire which is symbolic of everlasting destruction. Meaning they are no more. Destroyed. (Revelation 20:14) The meek inherit everlasting life on earth. (Psalm 37:11; Matthew 5:5)
 

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The English Word Hell
The old English word hell means to cover or conceal. Similar words coming from the same root have a similar meaning. Hill for example is a mound of dirt or stone that covers the level surface of earth. Hull is the covering of a nut or the covered part of a ship. Heal is the covering of a wound. Hall is a building space which is used to cover people or goods. Hole is an uncovering. Shell.

In the early days to hell potatoes meant to cover them, as to store them in a cellar or underground. To hel (one l) a house meant to cover a portion of it with tile.

At first the use of hell had no pagan meaning to it. It was simply used as the common grave of man. To go to hell in the Old English language meant simply that one was dead and buried. It was in Germany and England that the word began to evolve into the pagan unscriptural meaning of eternal punishment.

Poor Modern Translation
The original meaning of the word hell is not so much a poor translation of the Hebrew sheohl (English Transliteration sheol) and the Greek Haides (English transliteration hades), as much as it is a case of the word having evolved into a pagan meaning; the modern day translation of hell is misleading.

The Catholic Douay Version translates sheohl as hell 64 times and once as death. The King James Version translates sheohl 31 times as hell, 31 times as grave and 3 times as pit. This is common in older translations like the English Revised Version (1885) where sheohl is transliterated in many cases but most of the occurrences were translated as grave, or pit. Hell being used 14 times. The American Standard Version (1901) transliterated sheohl in all 65 occurrences and haides in all ten of its occurrences, though the Greek word Geenna (English Gehenna) is translated hell.

The Hebrew Sheol
The Hebrew word sheol is the unseen resting place of the dead. It is not to be mistaken for the Hebrew words for individual burial place (qever - Judges 16:31), grave (qevurah - Genesis 35:20), or individual tomb (gadhish - Job 21:32) but rather the common grave of all mankind whatever the form of burial might be.

The Greek philosophical teaching of the immortality of the human soul and hell began to infiltrate Jewish teachings probably around the time of Alexander The Great's conquest in 332 BCE. The Bible itself, however, is in stark contrast to the teachings of pagan origin regarding the soul, which is not immortal (Ezekiel 18:4; Matthew 10:28) and therefore can't suffer forever in hell. The Bible also teaches that there is no consciousness in hell (the grave). (Ecclesiastes 9:4-10) and that sin equals death, therefor upon death we are acquitted of sin (Romans 6:7).

Sheol corresponds with the Greek Haides, both being the unseen resting place of the dead. It is not a place of fire, but of darkness (Job 10:21) a place of silence (Psalm 115:17) rather than a place filled with tortured screams.

The Greek Hades
The Greek word Hades corresponds to the Hebrew Sheol as is indicated by the apostle Peter's reference to Psalms 16:10 at Acts 2:27-31 where Jesus had fulfilled David's prophecy that Jesus would not be left in hell. Peter quoted Psalms and used the Greek hades in place of sheol. Likewise Jesus himself said that like Jonah, he would spend three days in hell. (Jonah 1:17; Jonah 2:2; Matthew 12:40)

The Greek word Hades occurs 10 times in the Christian Greek scriptures. (Matthew 11:23; 16:18; Luke 10:15; 16:23; Acts 2:27, 31; / Revelation 1:18; 6:8; 20:13-14)

It means the unseen place. In ten of the occurrences of hades it is in reference to death. It is not to be confused with the Greek word for grave (taphos), tomb (mnema) or memorial tomb (mnemeion), but is rather the common resting place of the dead. The place of death.

Jesus also uses hades at Matthew 11:23 and Luke 10:15 in a figurative way to indicate the debasement of Capernaum compared to heaven.

Also see The Rich Man And Lazarus below.

The Greek Gehenna
Unlike the Hebrew sheol and the Greek hades, there is really no excuse for mistaking the Greek Geenna (Hebrew Geh Hinnom - English Transliteration Gehenna) with the notion of any hell, either the Old English word meaning covered or the pagan hell of today's Christianity.

The Christian Greek Gehenna is a literal place - a valley that lies South and South-West of ancient Jerusalem. It is the modern day Wadi er-Rababi (Ge Ben Hinnom), a deep, narrow valley. Today it is a peaceful and pleasant valley, unlike the surrounding dry and rocky terrain, and most certainly unlike the pagan / apostate Christian hell.​

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Image: Modern Day Gehenna

In the days of unfaithful Kings Manasseh and Ahaz idolatrous worship of the pagan god Baal was conducted in the place which was then known as Geh Hinnom, (the valley of Hinnom) including human sacrifices to fire. It is ironic that the pagan custom of burning in fire, as in hell, would have so clearly infiltrated the Christian teachings, considering that this practice was a detestable thing to Jehovah God, and his prophets spoke of a time when this place would be turned into a defiled and desolate place. (2 Chronicles 28:1-3; 33:1-6; Jeremiah 7:31-32; 32:35).

The prophecy was fulfilled in the days of faithful King Josiah, who had the place, especially the area known as Topeth polluted into a refuse heap. (2 Kings 23:10)

So it was that in the days of Jesus and the early Christian congregations, that the valley was known as a literal place where the carcasses of criminals and animals were thrown, having no hope for resurrection. The refuse there was kept burning with sulphur, which is abundant in the area. When Jesus used Gehenna as a symbolic reference to the spiritually dead - the people in the area knew what he was talking about.

The Greek Tartarus
The Greek word Tartarus is found only once in scripture, at 2 Peter 2:4. It is often mistranslated as hell. Tartarus in the Christian Greek scriptures refers to a condition of debasement, unlike the pre-Christian pagan Tartarus (as in Homer's Iliad) which is a mythological prison. The word basically means the lowest place.

Peter refers to the angels who in the time of Noah forsook their original positions and became men in order to have relations with the women of earth. The result was their offspring being giants, the Nephilim, who caused so much destruction God had to bring forth the flood. (Genesis 6:1-4; Ephesians 6:10-12; Jude 1:6).

It is interesting that this verse is often mistranslated because when Jesus was resurrected from Sheol / Hades (Hell in some translations) on earth, he first went to tartarus to minister to the disobedient angels whom had been lowered in position - who happened to be in heaven in a position of debasement. This means that if you don't understand the mistranslation you would see Jesus go to hell on earth and then hell in heaven.

The Pagan Hell
The Pagan teaching of hell was adopted by the apostate Christian church. Today's thinking of hell comes more from Dante's Divine Comedy and Milton's Paradise Lost, but the teaching of hellfire is much older than the English word hell or Dante and Milton. It comes from Babylonian and Assyrian beliefs of a nether world. A place where gods and demons of great strength and fierceness presided over the damned.

Ancient Egyptian beliefs considered the Other World to be a place of pits of fire for the damned though they didn't think this lasted forever. Islamic teaching considers hell as a place of everlasting punishment. Hindus and Buddhists think of hell as a place of spiritual cleansing and final restoration.

Separation From God
Modern day Christians often try to soften the teaching of hell as a separation from God, but hell (as is often translated from the Hebrew Sheol and Greek Hades) can't be a separation from God, since God is in effect there - it is in front of him. He watches sheol for the time when the dead shall be resurrected. (Proverbs 15:11; Psalms 139:7-8; Amos 9:1-2).

Lazarus And The Rich Man - Luke 16:19-31
Jesus often taught people in a way which was easy for them to grasp. One way of doing this is through parables, or illustration. They are stories, which are not meant to be taken as literal accounts. Such is the case with the story of Lazarus and the Rich Man. Notice that the Rich man is buried in hades. If this account is to be taken literally then the Bible would contradict itself with all of the information being given in this article, but lets not leave it up to what may be thought to be my own personal interpretation.

Let it also be known that if this account is to be taken literally then that would make Jesus a liar. How so? How could Lazarus be at the bosom of Abraham in heaven when Jesus had already said that no man had ascended to heaven other than himself? (John 3:13).

The Lake Of Fire
The lake of fire is sometimes referred to as hell. The lake of fire is obviously a symbolic reference to everlasting destruction. Since hell itself is thrown into the lake of fire they can't be one and the same. Since death is thrown into the lake of fire and death isn't something that can be thrown literally, the lake is obviously symbolic. The fact that hell and death are symbolically destroyed by fire is harmonious with the end of sin which brought death. Those not thrown into the lake of fire are the meek who will inherit the earth and live forever upon it.

Secular And Religious References To Hell
"Sheol was located somewhere 'under' the earth . . . . The state of the dead was one of neither pain nor pleasure. Neither reward for the righteous nor punishment for the wicked was associated with Sheol. The good and bad alike, tyrants and saints, kings and orphans, Israelites and gentiles - all slept together without awareness of one another." - Encyclpaedia Britannica (1971, Vol. 11, p. 276)

"Hades . . . it corresponds to 'Sheol' in the O.T. and N.T., it has been unhappily rendered 'hell' " - Vine's Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words (1981, Vol. 2 p. 187)

"First it (Hell) stands for the Hebrew Sheohl of the Old Testament and the Greek Hades of the Septuagint and New Testament . Since Sheohl in Old Testament times referred simply to the abode of the dead and suggested no moral distinctions, the word 'hell,' as understood today, is not a happy translation." - Collier's Encyclopedia (1986, Vol. 12, p. 28)

"Much Confusion and misunderstanding has been caused through the early translators of the Bible persistently rendering the Hebrew Sheohl and the Greek Hades and Gehenna by the word hell. The simple transliteration of these words by the translators of the revised editions of the Bible has not sufficed to appreciably clear up this confusion and misconception." - The Encyclopedia Americana (1956, Vol. XIV, p. 81)

"The word ( sheol ) occurs often in the Psalms and in the book of Job to refer to the place to which all dead people go. It is represented as a dark place, in which there is no activity worthy of the name. There are no moral distinction there, so 'hell' ( KJV ) is not a suitable translation, since that suggests a contrast with 'heaven' as the dwelling-place of the righteous after death. In a sense, 'the grave' in a generic sense is a near equivalent, except that Sheol is more a mass grave in which all the dead dwell together . . . . The use of this particular imagery may have been considered suitable here [ in Jonah 2:2 ] in view of Jonah's imprisonment in the interior of the fish." - A Translators Handbook on the Book of Jonah, Brynmor F. Price and Eugene A. Nida, 1978, p 37​
 
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There are two Hells, one in Norway and one in Michigan.
A radio station I used to work for back in the day (in Michigan) gave away a trip to Hell as a prize. Fun times.

My favorite, though, was the t-shirt of Ron Glass in an episode of the 80s "Twilight Zone" that said "Hell is a city much like Newark."

 

Does Hell Exist?​

NO.
The 'Afterlife' is a real estate scam.
Or a 'LIFE
(after death) INSURANCE' scam.
Heaven/Hell
(TM) is a protection racket.
No need to look it up in the bible. The bible is just it's advertising campaign.

OK, I'm making assertions here, so prove me wrong.
Repeating your assertions is not proof.
 

Does Hell Exist?​

NO.
The 'Afterlife' is a real estate scam.
Or a 'LIFE
(after death) INSURANCE' scam.
Heaven/Hell
(TM) is a protection racket.
No need to look it up in the bible. The bible is just it's advertising campaign.

OK, I'm making assertions here, so prove me wrong.
Repeating your assertions is not proof.

You're confusing the pagan hell with the old English word hell and the Biblical sheol and hades. The old English word hell, the Hebrew word sheol and the Greek words hades mean grave. It would be foolish to think graves don't exist. The distinction of the pagan hell which was adopted by the apostate church and the Biblical hell.

Now, the afterlife you would contest as an atheist I presume would be the Biblical resurrection.
 
You're confusing the pagan hell with the old English word hell and the Biblical sheol and hades. The old English word hell, the Hebrew word sheol and the Greek words hades mean grave. It would be foolish to think graves don't exist. The distinction of the pagan hell which was adopted by the apostate church and the Biblical hell.

Now, the afterlife you would contest as an atheist I presume would be the Biblical resurrection.
Don't babble like an idiot.
Both you and I live in the 20th and 21st century.
Nobody thinks hell means grave anymore. And that is irrelevant to this thread.
 
You're confusing the pagan hell with the old English word hell and the Biblical sheol and hades. The old English word hell, the Hebrew word sheol and the Greek words hades mean grave. It would be foolish to think graves don't exist. The distinction of the pagan hell which was adopted by the apostate church and the Biblical hell.

Now, the afterlife you would contest as an atheist I presume would be the Biblical resurrection.
Don't babble like an idiot.
Both you and I live in the 20th and 21st century.
Nobody thinks hell means grave anymore. And that is irrelevant to this thread.

It doesn't matter what you or I believe or what century it is. The question is what does the Bible teach. The Bible doesn't teach hell as a literal eternal punishment.
 
You're confusing the pagan hell with the old English word hell and the Biblical sheol and hades. The old English word hell, the Hebrew word sheol and the Greek words hades mean grave. It would be foolish to think graves don't exist. The distinction of the pagan hell which was adopted by the apostate church and the Biblical hell.

Now, the afterlife you would contest as an atheist I presume would be the Biblical resurrection.
Don't babble like an idiot.
Both you and I live in the 20th and 21st century.
Nobody thinks hell means grave anymore. And that is irrelevant to this thread.

It doesn't matter what you or I believe or what century it is. The question is what does the Bible teach. The Bible doesn't teach hell as a literal eternal punishment.

Could you elaborate on why anyone should give a shit what the bible teaches about anything?
 
Yeah, but now we'll probably get a "THE Thread on Why Everyone Should Give a Shit What The Bible Says," post...

No. Like I've said before, you should only give a shit what the Bible says if you give a shit what the Bible says. That's why I think militant atheism is stupid and apathetic atheism isn't. Since the militant atheist is by far the minority of atheists, atheism in general, that is, aside from militant atheism is rational. Reasonable. Militant atheism isn't. Militant atheism is only the same ideology as militant theism.
 
Yeah, but now we'll probably get a "THE Thread on Why Everyone Should Give a Shit What The Bible Says," post...

No. Like I've said before, you should only give a shit what the Bible says if you give a shit what the Bible says. That's why I think militant atheism is stupid and apathetic atheism isn't. Since the militant atheist is by far the minority of atheists, atheism in general, that is, aside from militant atheism is rational. Reasonable. Militant atheism isn't. Militant atheism is only the same ideology as militant theism.
Well that's weird.

I think I've made it quite clear that I don't give a shit what the Bible says, but yet just a couple few days ago, you (in a post that has since been removed) called me a "fucking idiot" for saying so. You've also made it quite clear that you don't give a shit what other people think, and that you've gone hog-wild on what the Bible says...or at least what you think it says. When presented with solid evidence for evolution (in a thread purported to debunk said accepted science) you dismiss it out of hand because "the Bible says." Almost like you're some sort of...militant theist. In fact, over the last month or so you've started several threads challenging us atheists (militant or otherwise) to prove your militant theism wrong.

Honestly, if you're a militant theist, you can keep that if you'd like, but from what I've read, you're not content to say "fine...we agree to disagree" and leave it at that. In fact, you've admitted to (if not proudly proclaimed) you spend your supposedly valuable time on atheist or non-believer forums such as this one dispensing your proclamations on the existence of God, Heaven, Hell, and the validity of the Bible over modern science and then patting yourself on the back for "owning the atheists."

And you've repeatedly denied being a Jehovah's Witness, and on some level, I think you might not be. Because in my experience, when a JW knocks on my door and tries to sell me on their bullshit, a firm "no, fuck off" is often good enough to get them to leave. We've essentially slammed the door in your face, but you're still knocking and trying to give us a flyer.
 
Well that's weird.

I think I've made it quite clear that I don't give a shit what the Bible says, but yet just a couple few days ago, you (in a post that has since been removed) called me a "fucking idiot" for saying so.

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You've also made it quite clear that you don't give a shit what other people think, and that you've gone hog-wild on what the Bible says...or at least what you think it says.

WHAT?! The Bible?! On a religion forum?! Are you mad?!

When presented with solid evidence for evolution (in a thread purported to debunk said accepted science) you dismiss it out of hand because "the Bible says."

That's completely wrong. My contention was that the failed metaphysical experiment you refer to as evolution doesn't contradict the Bible. As far as evidence goes there was very little of it that made any sense and most of that was suppplied by me. Go and read it again, ideologue.

Almost like you're some sort of...militant theist.

Wow!

In fact, over the last month or so you've started several threads challenging us atheists (militant or otherwise) to prove your militant theism wrong.

How dare I?! Poor baby.

Honestly, if you're a militant theist, you can keep that if you'd like, but from what I've read, you're not content to say "fine...we agree to disagree" and leave it at that.

Awww. And the poor innocent blind militant atheists just want to be left alone to ignorantly criticize religion on their public forum! Terrible. Shocked! Shocked, I am! They can't defend themselves.

This, this . . . thing, this DLH needs to be cancelled immediately. These brainless invertebrates can't defend themselves!

In fact, you've admitted to (if not proudly proclaimed) you spend your supposedly valuable time on atheist or non-believer forums such as this one dispensing your proclamations on the existence of God, Heaven, Hell, and the validity of the Bible over modern science and then patting yourself on the back for "owning the atheists."

Why, thanks for noticing.

And you've repeatedly denied being a Jehovah's Witness, and on some level, I think you might not be. Because in my experience, when a JW knocks on my door and tries to sell me on their bullshit, a firm "no, fuck off" is often good enough to get them to leave. We've essentially slammed the door in your face, but you're still knocking and trying to give us a flyer.

It's very simple, <DELETED>, don't read the flyer. Hover your mouse over my avatar and click ignore. They made it easy for you. Complaining isn't going to make your door impervious to these unforgivable intrusions. No, Virginia, there is no safe space.
 
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It's very simple, <DELETED>, don't read the flyer. Hover your mouse over my avatar and click ignore. They made it easy for you. Complaining isn't going to make your door impervious to these unforgivable intrusions. No, Virginia, there is no safe space.

Well that's odd. There appears to have been some words lost in translation. As far as putting you on "ignore," nah...I'm having too much fun with you. Back in the day when the "God Squad" knocked on my door, I used to enjoy getting them to leave on their own account. It was fun, but as I got older I just stopped answering the door.

But if you're gonna keep knocking, I'm gonna have some fun with you.
 
In a monastery monks are only allowed to speak once a year during Christmas dinner.

Christmas dinner rolls around and brother Jim stands up saying ’Brother Joe when god gave out brains you were at the end of the line!’, and sat back down.

Next Christmas dinner comes around and brother Joe stands up saying ‘Brother Jim take a bath once in a while, you stink’, and sits back down.

Christmas dinner again rolls around. As brother Jim stands up to reply brother Bob leaps to his feet exclaiming ‘Bothers please stop this constant bickering!’.
 
In a monastery monks were only allowed to chant "good morning" at the beginning of the day.

Every morning they would solemnly intone "gooood morning."

One day, an errant monk decided to mix things up, and started the day by saying "gooood evening." There was silence for a moment, and then the abbot said:

"Someone chanted evening..."

 
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