Atheist are inteligent ?

[hurtinbuckaroo]

Granted, Syed doesn't pose much of a challenge. He shows up, ready to go, and then he comes-to in the locker room a few minutes later thinking he's won the fight. Then he leaves, trains a little more by doing exactly the same thing that got him worked over the last time, and comes back for more.

aka punchdrunk. I'm waiting for the "I coulda been a contenda!" thread.

 

[skepticalbip]

But then look at it from Syed's point of view. He sees his threads as an attempt to communicate ultimate truth to the ignorant kafir. He has tried his best but the kafir are too fucking ignorant to understand. Even those who do have a little intelligence are bullheaded followers of Satan who refuse to listen.

I don't see that he has even considered that any of his beliefs may even possibly be nonsense. Making his certainty even more sad.

 

[atrib]

But then look at it from Syed's point of view. He sees his threads as an attempt to communicate ultimate truth to the ignorant kafir. He has tried his best but the kafir are too fucking ignorant to understand. Even those who do have a little intelligence are bullheaded followers of Satan who refuse to listen.

I don't see that he has even considered that any of his beliefs may even possibly be nonsense. Making his certainty even more sad.

I think Syed understands that his god beliefs are untrue. He has hinted at it several times. I think he likes to drop in here from time to time for his own entertainment.

 

[Keith&Co.]

I think Syed understands that his god beliefs are untrue. He has hinted at it several times.

Has he?
I know he's indicated that even IF his god beliefs are wrong, they're the only thing standing between him and being an evil person, probably an arsonist, a rapist, maybe a gay wedding cake baker, so even IF we could ever disprove his beliefs, he'd remain a Muslim, and so should all of civilization.
So, nyah, nyah, nyah and so on.

 

[GenesisNemesis]

Breitbart is a piece of shit. Fuck off.

 

[ronburgundy]

I think Syed understands that his god beliefs are untrue. He has hinted at it several times.

Has he?
I know he's indicated that even IF his god beliefs are wrong, they're the only thing standing between him and being an evil person, probably an arsonist, a rapist, maybe a gay wedding cake baker, so even IF we could ever disprove his beliefs, he'd remain a Muslim, and so should all of civilization.
So, nyah, nyah, nyah and so on.

Your post make me think of "the butcher, the baker, and the candle stick maker".

Rub a dub dub,
three atheists in a tub.
And who do you think they were?
The killer, the raper, and the gay wedding cake maker,
and they all sailed off to hell.

 

[Syed]

sure, atheist like dawkins help islam spread in the west faster

religion will NOT die but other religion replace

atheism is high way to islam

Or he was simply referring to a lesser of two evils? Have you given that possibility some thought?

i understand that, but people criticizing dawkins because he trying to destroy christianity but that only helping islam to spread in the west

dawkins just replacing christianity for islam

i believe dawkins helping us to spread islam in the west but we could do without his help

atheist are delusional to think that religion would disappear

 

[Keith&Co.]

atheist are delusional to think that religion would disappear

Why?
I've gone atheist and never gone back.
What prevents any single person from doing the same?

 

[Colonel Sanders]

atheist are delusional to think that religion would disappear

Why?
I've gone atheist and never gone back.
What prevents any single person from doing the same?

He might have inadvertently hit on a deep truth. By now you'd think we'd be over it--gods not appearing, and the random, purposeless horrors that occur on a daily basis to both good and bad people. We know full well that the family and culture we're brought up in dictates our values and beliefs to a large extent, and so we can say that if Syed had been born in Nebraska, he'd almost certainly have grown up in a Christian family and would be here arguing for Jesus instead of Allah. And he knows this. And everyone knows this.

But it doesn't change dick. It barely registers as a blip on the "I need to think about that" screen.

Now that access to information has changed, religion appears, at least in the westernized nations to be losing some ground, but it's going to take a long time--and as Syed basically said, it may be impossible for religion to disappear, although for reasons other than he intended.

 

[skepticalbip]

^ ^
Gotta agree that I don't see religion disappearing anytime in the near future. But I think it is because of a few human traits. Humans are generally curious, humans are generally mentally lazy, humans generally like to think of themselves as smart.

Because humans are curious they will wonder about a lot of things they don't think they understand fully (making them feel not so smart). The realization that they don't understand leaves two options; they can do a lot of study to learn or ask someone who knows (being mentally lazy, most will ask). They can't understand the detailed technical explanation (again making them feel not so smart) but they can understand the simplistic explanation offered by religion (making them feel smart).

Religion answers their questions with absurdly simplistic, asinine, explanations satisfying their curiosity. The didn't have to exert any mental effort satisfying their reluctance to tax their mental facilities. They understand the explanation so now they "know" meaning they feel smart. All that is required of them is to believe what the religion tells them.

The ones who escape this pit are those who enjoy taxing their mental facilities and/or those who honestly try to make sense of the BS that religion has fed them. The lucky ones are those who's parents never subjected them to it.

Damned that sounds haughty for someone with absolutely no education in psychology or sociology.

 

[DrZoidberg]

sure, atheist like dawkins help islam spread in the west faster

religion will NOT die but other religion replace

atheism is high way to islam

richard dawkins
“I have mixed feelings about the decline of Christianity, in so far as Christianity might be a bulwark against something worse,”

thank you richard dawkins you ass

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richard dawkins admitted he is as dumb as ass

But can he correctly spell 'inteligent?' That's the key...

i wish you were my teacher

That's explains why I caught myself praying to Mecca the other day.

 

[DBT]

Or he was simply referring to a lesser of two evils? Have you given that possibility some thought?

i understand that, but people criticizing dawkins because he trying to destroy christianity but that only helping islam to spread in the west

dawkins just replacing christianity for islam

i believe dawkins helping us to spread islam in the west but we could do without his help

atheist are delusional to think that religion would disappear

Did Dawkins say that he believes that religion would in fact disappear?

 

[DrZoidberg]

i understand that, but people criticizing dawkins because he trying to destroy christianity but that only helping islam to spread in the west

dawkins just replacing christianity for islam

i believe dawkins helping us to spread islam in the west but we could do without his help

atheist are delusional to think that religion would disappear

How about looking shit up instead of just making claims?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_of_religion

Islam is a religion that grows only through having babies. That's been the case for half a millennia now. Islam isn't converting anyone any more. If you look at Islamic congregations in the west it's ethnic make-up is a clue. It's all middle-eastern and occasionally African. No whites to be seen. If the west wouldn't have immigration the numbers of Muslims in the west would only be going down.

The largest source of Christian growth is from ex-Muslims having converted. It's a one way street where Islam is losing.

But you can't just look at absolute numbers and think you know what is going on. Being a Muslim or Christian today is a world apart from belonging to the same religion just fifty years ago. Both Islam and Christianity is so different from what it was initially that it's bizarre to call it the same religion even.

I recommend looking at a detailed study of what religious people actually believe. The best one IMHO is the "AMERICAN RELIGIOUS IDENTIFICATION SURVEY". While only for America I think it's representative for what is going on in western countries and is very very detailed. They ask in depth questions that other surveys don't.

http://www.trincoll.edu/Academics/c...2013_College Students_Sept_25_final_draft.pdf

If you look at those numbers you'll see that what is increasing is weirdness. People's faith is increasingly hard to put into neat little boxes. A person being Muslim or Christian today tells you nothing about what they actually believe. Today Muslims can believe any number of weird things.

What is happening is that religious authorities are losing power. Religion is increasingly becoming a personal thing and the faithful don't give a shit about what they should believe or what anybody else thinks. The problem with this that famous religious thinkers aren't stupid. But most people are. So dumb religion is on the increase. Just stupid interpretations of scripture that make zero sense no matter how you look at it. Only about 20% of Christians have ever read the Bible. That number is dropping fast.

This weirdness of faith doesn't only apply to religious people. It applies increasingly to atheists and agnostics. People believe unbelievably stupid shit nowadays. I put Vaccination denial and Chemtrails into this. I see this all as the same trend. Yesterday an "atheistic" friend to me shared a film on Facebook showing how science has proven that we can read auras. Dumb dumb dumb.

The Beatniks and counter-culture hippies of the 60'ies and 70'ies won. People today are rejecting figures of authority and thinking for themselves. And that's the problem.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

richard dawkins admitted he is as dumb as ass


Professional Atheist Dawkins Says Christianity ‘Bulwark Against Something Worse’

http://www.breitbart.com/national-s...christianity-bulwark-against-something-worse/

Ah... a Syed thread. I don't think I've seen one of these in a while.

English isn't my second language, so I'll not make with pointing out the wrong use of the word "are", intelligent being spelled incorrectly, the extra space after intelligent. Also I won't raise the issue that Richard Dawkins, even if he said "Atheists are not intelligent", isn't the end all and know all source regarding the intelligence of a group of people that share one single belief.

 

[Keith&Co.]

richard dawkins admitted he is as dumb as ass


Professional Atheist Dawkins Says Christianity ‘Bulwark Against Something Worse’

http://www.breitbart.com/national-s...christianity-bulwark-against-something-worse/

Ah... a Syed thread. I don't think I've seen one of these in a while.

English isn't my second language, so I'll not ...
Also I won't...

how about concentrating on everything Syed sees either convinces him that atheists are wrong or that everyone will some day be muslim?

EVERY thing.

Makes for a rather boring Magic Muslim 8 ball...

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Or he was simply referring to a lesser of two evils? Have you given that possibility some thought?

i understand that, but people criticizing dawkins because he trying to destroy christianity but that only helping islam to spread in the west

dawkins just replacing christianity for islam

i believe dawkins helping us to spread islam in the west but we could do without his help

atheist are delusional to think that religion would disappear

It will eventually, but religion moves at a slightly faster than geologic pace. We are at least past the geocentrism phase.

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Ah... a Syed thread. I don't think I've seen one of these in a while.

English isn't my second language, so I'll not ...
Also I won't...

how about concentrating on everything Syed sees either convinces him that atheists are wrong or that everyone will some day be muslim?

EVERY thing.

Makes for a rather boring Magic Muslim 8 ball...

Of course, after everyone converts, it'll be whether everyone is Shi'a or Shiite.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Ah.
Those posers...

 

[braces_for_impact]

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

What is spreading Islam in the West is Muslims fleeing the Islamic hell holes of the Middle East. The ugly religious wars and turmoil of the 1500's helped Europe eventually march to the secularist world we see today that works so much better.

In time, many Moslems will tire of the turmoil death, illiteracy, abject poverty and failure of so much of what we see in Islamic nations today and will follow suit.

 

[iolo]

What is spreading Islam in the West is Muslims fleeing the Islamic hell holes of the Middle East. The ugly religious wars and turmoil of the 1500's helped Europe eventually march to the secularist world we see today that works so much better.

In time, many Moslems will tire of the turmoil death, illiteracy, abject poverty and failure of so much of what we see in Islamic nations today and will follow suit.

When we stop trying to colonise their countries and murdering them in vast numbers, conceivably so.