All blacks are owed reparations

[bilby]

We already have a measure of how much a person's forebears were oppressed, which would give a much better estimate of the degree of reparations owed to an individual by society than that individual's ethnicity, gender, or other broad categorisation.

Wealth.

We should have the wealthy pay reparations to the poor. It's both justified and equitable; and we could call it 'tax and spend'.

Of course it's not a perfect solution. But it's a fuck of a lot better than using skin colour as the criterion for deciding who needs to be compensated for past abuses.

And it's a sliding scale. If only three of someone's bears were oppressed, they will likely pay somewhat more in taxes, and have somewhat less provided to them as benefits.

I like it! Let's go bold: reparations to Blacks, First Nations, Women, and people with $500million or less in wealth?!

The point is that if you ONLY use the latter of those four criteria, most people in the first three groups will automatically benefit - and any who do not likely don't deserve to.

Also, setting a threshold is arbitrary and stupid. Reparations inversely proportional to wealth is my proposal.

Better still, proportional to inheritance (including all parental funding of their children's lives). Wealth and privilege you aquire yourself is justly yours. Wealth and privilege derived from your choosing to have wealthy and privileged parents, not so much.

People with wealthy forebears owe those with only three - but not as much as they owe those with no wealthy bears at all.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

I hesitated before deciding to make a thread on this, because over the past year it has become increasingly clear to me that this is actually a fairly center-right forum.

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8. We want the immediate withdrawal of the U.S. police from our oppressed and exploited communities.

14. We want the total liberation and unification of Africa under an All-African socialist government.

These two show a complete and utter hatred of black people.

And what about those Native Americans who sold Manhattan for some beads. We sure owe those guys.

I'd say give it back to them but they've suffered enough.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

I'm of English descent, so I'd like reparations from the Italian government for the time when the Roman Emperor had a big wall built across our country. It real hampered my ancestors' ability to rape and murder Roman citizens and there was no TV back in those days, so that was pretty much the only fun they had.

 

[bilby]

I'm of English descent, so I'd like reparations from the Italian government for the time when the Roman Emperor had a big wall built across our country. It real hampered my ancestors' ability to rape and murder Roman citizens and there was no TV back in those days, so that was pretty much the only fun they had.

Which one?

There were two Roman walls built across Great Britain to mark the border between Roman Brittania and Pictish Caledonia; Antoninus ordered the Antonine Wall to be built between the Clyde and Forth in 142CE, and it was then abandoned in favour of Hadrian's earlier (founded 122CE) and more famous wall in 162CE. Septimus Severus then re-established the Antonine wall in 208CE, but again it was only occupied for a few years.

It's not known whether the repeated abandonment of the Antonine Wall was due to the Roman annoyance at being constantly addressed as 'Jimmy'; their inability to stomach local foods, such as deep-fried battered Mars bars; or whether they merely made a hasty retreat after being asked "Can yer mutha sew?" by a large pict wearing a string vest outside a pub in Sauchiehall Street at closing time one Friday night. Archaeological and documentary sources are unclear on these points.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

All I can say is that if any reparations bill of any sort passes for any victim, I'm going to apply for compensation. Let them tell me I don't qualify.

 

[ideologyhunter]

"Everybody just gotta keep fuckin' everybody 'til they're all the same color." -Bulworth

Wait until Micronesia sues the developed world for reparations for their homes being 15 feet under water. That'll be the one to watch on Court TV.

 

[thebeave]

I want reparations on account of what OJ Simpson did to a couple of "my people"!

 

[fast]

Reparations? We have to listen to rap music when filling up at the gas stations. I think we’re even.

 

[Gun Nut]

To help properly distribute the reparations, we need to identify which black people are descendants of the original black slave traders that created the industry of selling their own people to others, and those that were the victims of those Africans
The slave traders pay the slaves... fair?

History fails to to teach that white people didn't go to Africa to capture black people and make them slaves.... Africans created a trade of slave labor consisting of their own people. Blacks sold blacks to whites (but first, to other African Blacks)... and then yes, whites then "bred their own" to propagate their investment.

 

[bilby]

To help properly distribute the reparations, we need to identify which black people are descendants of the original black slave traders that created the industry of selling their own people to others, and those that were the victims of those Africans
The slave traders pay the slaves... fair?

History fails to to teach that white people didn't go to Africa to capture black people and make them slaves.... Africans created a trade of slave labor consisting of their own people. Blacks sold blacks to whites (but first, to other African Blacks)... and then yes, whites then "bred their own" to propagate their investment.

Only a pig ignorant racist would lump all eighteenth century Africans together on the basis of their skin colour. African slave traders didn't sell "their own people"; they sold their enemies. That white racists today can't be bothered to draw that distinction is just lazy racism.

It's just like an Indian saying that the white western europeans spent the period from 1914-18 slaughtering their own. Some Indians travelled to France to join in the slaughter of white people, and the whites actively helped them do it - to slaughter their own people. Because western europeans are a single group of indistinguishable savages.

There's a grain of truth in it - but it's a massive oversimplification, which serves only to devalue and denigrate all involved.

 

[Half-Life]

Will whites and Asians be paid reparations for not being allowed into colleges so they can allow more blacks in who aren't as qualified for the colleges?

 

[Elixir]

...Because western europeans are a single group of indistinguishable savages.

It's a depressing thought that this must be how many Western Europeans are coming to view Americans...
Thanks again, Donald.

 

[Elixir]

Will whites and Asians be paid reparations for not being allowed into colleges so they can allow more blacks in who aren't as qualified for the colleges?

Only us whites of course. WTF do you think this is, a free-for-all? Fuck them uppity slant-eyed harbor bombers anyway. Johnny needs new designer shoes - made in China!

 

[bilby]

...Because western europeans are a single group of indistinguishable savages.

It's a depressing thought that this must be how many Western Europeans are coming to view Americans...
Thanks again, Donald.

Don't be silly - they're not coming to view Americans that way; They've been viewing them that way for some time.

 

[laughing dog]

Will whites and Asians be paid reparations for not being allowed into colleges so they can allow more blacks in who aren't as qualified for the colleges?

Maybe after readers of these forums receive reparations for being exposed to such dreck.

 

[Gun Nut]

To help properly distribute the reparations, we need to identify which black people are descendants of the original black slave traders that created the industry of selling their own people to others, and those that were the victims of those Africans
The slave traders pay the slaves... fair?

History fails to to teach that white people didn't go to Africa to capture black people and make them slaves.... Africans created a trade of slave labor consisting of their own people. Blacks sold blacks to whites (but first, to other African Blacks)... and then yes, whites then "bred their own" to propagate their investment.

Only a pig ignorant racist would lump all eighteenth century Africans together on the basis of their skin colour. African slave traders didn't sell "their own people"; they sold their enemies. That white racists today can't be bothered to draw that distinction is just lazy racism.

It's just like an Indian saying that the white western europeans spent the period from 1914-18 slaughtering their own. Some Indians travelled to France to join in the slaughter of white people, and the whites actively helped them do it - to slaughter their own people. Because western europeans are a single group of indistinguishable savages.

There's a grain of truth in it - but it's a massive oversimplification, which serves only to devalue and denigrate all involved.

I just have to put these together to laugh...

Firstly... we are talking about providing a benefit to someone based entirely on their skin color...

Only a pig ignorant racist would lump all eighteenth century Africans together on the basis of their skin colour

so then you are against reparations because they are racist? I don't entirely disagree

There's a grain of truth in it - but it's a massive oversimplification

I Am Black - I get money (because getting into college with lower scores or getting jobs with lower qualifications was not enough, apparently).. pretty oversimplified, no?

It sound slike you are the one oversimplifying and being "pig racist" or whatever by failing to distinguish the descendants of victims versus the descendants of victimizers... talk about grouping all black people together... Kettle, meet Pot. Pot, this is Kettle.