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SCOTUS rules in favor of LGBT worker protections

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The Supreme Court ruled Monday that a landmark civil rights law protects gay and transgender workers from workplace discrimination, handing the movement for L.G.B.T. equality a stunning victory.

The vote was 6 to 3, with Justice Neil M. Gorsuch writing the majority opinion. He was joined by Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen G. Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan.

The case concerned Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which bars employment discrimination based on race, religion, national origin and sex. The question for the justices was whether that last prohibition — discrimination “because of sex”— applies to many millions of gay and transgender workers.

The decision, covering two cases, was the court’s first on L.G.B.T. rights since the retirement in 2018 of Justice Anthony M. Kennedy, who wrote the majority opinions in all four of the court’s major gay rights decisions.

Yay! Finally a piece of good news. And, surprisingly, two judges who are considered conservatives voted in favor of protecting the civil rights of LGBT citizens.
 
And the assholes who voted against this... ? Apparently equal right aren't a thing to them.
 
And the assholes who voted against this...
Lost 2 to 1. Roberts isn't Souter, but he has come through a few times. This is actually a pretty huge deal. Though I don't know how it applies to Trump trying EO equal rights from LGBT folks.
 
And the assholes who voted against this... ? Apparently equal right aren't a thing to them.
They apparently hold that some people are more equal than others because some people are more equal than others.

This is great news!
 
And the assholes who voted against this... ? Apparently equal right aren't a thing to them.
They apparently hold that some people are more equal than others because some people are more equal than others.

This is great news!
They argued, I believe, that Sex originally meant with penis or with vagina. So they argument is about original intent of the law... and if Congress wants to cover other meanings of sex (gender), they can pass a law doing as such. Of course, "intent" is a fuzzy word, even if Madison pops in and says otherwise.

The original word might have meant "X", but the law intended to reduce gender based discrimination and our understanding of such a concept has expanded greatly. It would seem obtuse for SCOTUS to rule that the inclusion of this protection should be limited to others when the original intent was broader (not stricter protection). After all Alito, if Congress meant to allow discimination of LGBT people, Congress could pass a law.
 
I suppose that it makes sense that Thomas and Kavanaugh, both accused of harassing and assaulting women in the past, would vote to discriminate against LGBTQ individuals.
 
McConnell held up Obama's nominee for almost a year, just so he could get his own brand of Justice seated on the bench.

That Justice not only sided with LGBTQ rights, but he wrote the opinion supporting the ruling.

The irony is almost as delicious as gay wedding cake.
 
And the assholes who voted against this... ? Apparently equal right aren't a thing to them.
They apparently hold that some people are more equal than others because some people are more equal than others.

This is great news!
They argued, I believe, that Sex originally meant with penis or with vagina. So they argument is about original intent of the law... and if Congress wants to cover other meanings of sex (gender), they can pass a law doing as such. Of course, "intent" is a fuzzy word, even if Madison pops in and says otherwise.

The original word might have meant "X", but the law intended to reduce gender based discrimination and our understanding of such a concept has expanded greatly. It would seem obtuse for SCOTUS to rule that the inclusion of this protection should be limited to others when the original intent was broader (not stricter protection). After all Alito, if Congress meant to allow discimination of LGBT people, Congress could pass a law.
In case anyone cares, the actual arguments are here:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/17-1618_hfci.pdf
 
They argued, I believe, that Sex originally meant with penis or with vagina. So they argument is about original intent of the law... and if Congress wants to cover other meanings of sex (gender), they can pass a law doing as such. Of course, "intent" is a fuzzy word, even if Madison pops in and says otherwise.

The original word might have meant "X", but the law intended to reduce gender based discrimination and our understanding of such a concept has expanded greatly. It would seem obtuse for SCOTUS to rule that the inclusion of this protection should be limited to others when the original intent was broader (not stricter protection). After all Alito, if Congress meant to allow discimination of LGBT people, Congress could pass a law.
In case anyone cares, the actual arguments are here:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/17-1618_hfci.pdf
Like I said:
Justice Alito dissent said:
Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits employment discrimination on any of five specified grounds: “race,color, religion, sex, [and] national origin.” 42 U. S. C.§2000e–2(a)(1). Neither “sexual orientation” nor “genderidentity” appears on that list. For the past 45 years, billshave been introduced in Congress to add “sexual orientation” to the list,1 and in recent years, bills have included“gender identity” as well.2 But to date, none has passedboth Houses.

Last year, the House of Representatives passed a bill thatwould amend Title VII by defining sex discrimination to include both “sexual orientation” and “gender identity,” H. R.5, 116th Cong., 1st Sess. (2019), but the bill has stalled inthe Senate. An alternative bill, H. R. 5331, 116th Cong.,1st Sess. (2019), would add similar prohibitions but contains provisions to protect religious liberty.3 This bill remains before a House Subcommittee.

Because no such amendment of Title VII has been enacted in accordance with the requirements in the Constitution (passage in both Houses and presentment to the President, Art. I, §7, cl. 2), Title VII’s prohibition of discrimination because of “sex” still means what it has always meant. But the Court is not deterred by these constitutional niceties. Usurping the constitutional authority ofthe other branches, the Court has essentially taken H. R.5’s provision on employment discrimination and issued itunder the guise of statutory interpretation.4 A more brazenabuse of our authority to interpret statutes is hard to recall.
Poor Alito, the expansion of human rights must sicken him terribly.
 
The only shocking thing about this, imo, is that LGBTQ persons even had to be still asking in the first place, in 2020.
In the US? We only just decriminalized Gay Sex in 2003... via a SCOTUS ruling! It was NOT a unanimous ruling either!
 
The only shocking thing about this, imo, is that LGBTQ persons even had to be still asking in the first place, in 2020.
In the US? We only just decriminalized Gay Sex in 2003... via a SCOTUS ruling! It was NOT a unanimous ruling either!
We're slowly crawling out of the cave. We're not exactly standing, not yet.
 
Like I said:
Justice Alito dissent said:
Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits employment discrimination on any of five specified grounds: “race,color, religion, sex, [and] national origin.” 42 U. S. C.§2000e–2(a)(1). Neither “sexual orientation” nor “genderidentity” appears on that list. For the past 45 years, billshave been introduced in Congress to add “sexual orientation” to the list,1 and in recent years, bills have included“gender identity” as well.2 But to date, none has passedboth Houses.

Last year, the House of Representatives passed a bill thatwould amend Title VII by defining sex discrimination to include both “sexual orientation” and “gender identity,” H. R.5, 116th Cong., 1st Sess. (2019), but the bill has stalled inthe Senate. An alternative bill, H. R. 5331, 116th Cong.,1st Sess. (2019), would add similar prohibitions but contains provisions to protect religious liberty.3 This bill remains before a House Subcommittee.

Because no such amendment of Title VII has been enacted in accordance with the requirements in the Constitution (passage in both Houses and presentment to the President, Art. I, §7, cl. 2), Title VII’s prohibition of discrimination because of “sex” still means what it has always meant. But the Court is not deterred by these constitutional niceties. Usurping the constitutional authority ofthe other branches, the Court has essentially taken H. R.5’s provision on employment discrimination and issued itunder the guise of statutory interpretation.4 A more brazenabuse of our authority to interpret statutes is hard to recall.
Poor Alito, the expansion of human rights must sicken him terribly.
Alito just seems to fail at basic logic.

If you are discriminating against someone for wearing a dress or identifying as "She" or being In a relationship with a man, on account of their sex, you are discriminating on account of their sex. If people born with vaginas are allowed to do X, so are people born otherwise.

It's not my or anyone else's fault that this is what the law says, not discriminating on account of sex. It is right in there. But this is what it means when you take it to it's fill extent. And it's fill extent is more right.
 
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