Excluded middle? Atheism and theism or existence non existence of god is a bibary. There is n middle. Agnostics construct a middle option of beliefs.
To that I concur with……
Agnosticism is an epistemological position, not a category of belief in deities.
And……
My experience has revealed that most are inconsistent and arbitrary. Their severe skepticism is not consistently applied to all other areas of their knowledge.
I would call your attacks sophistry. You are using the 'shot gun method'. hooting a spray of small pellet's(arguments) and hoping one hits something. That is actually a method of argument and attack, exemplified by Trump. When in doubt try to put your opponent on his heels by a barrage.
First, it was not an attack of any kind. You are so victimized that you emotionally turn all opposing points of view into attacks. Seriously your propensity for crying victim so parallels your bemoan about Christians being so exclusive……meaning black and white……my way is right and your way is wrong. In your case it’s my way is right or you are attacking me. Can you discuss opposing views without emotionally crying victimhood all the time?
Second, the shotgun construction of our conversation has been me responding to all the unrelated emotions you keep spewing forth. I was here to address a taxonomy of belief in deities. You are the one jumping all over the place……who brought up Trump and politics? Who turned our conversation of deities into a victimization of political opposition?
See…………
Hardley a false dilemma. Many of us atheists have to deal with the social oppression of American Christians. Evangelicals are numerous enough to have helped Trump get elected. He promised to enact their religious wants. In Africa trhere are very extreme Christians.
….where did Trump come from? You must really be ticked off about the vote for no FURTHER witnesses and Documents. What does that have to do with your taxonomy of belief in deities?
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Your dismissal of my false dilemma......is in question here. For what followed your dismissal didn't address the context my charge was offered in at all. Non-sequitur...shotgun.
Atheism exclusive? You are grasping at straws. Don't have a clue what you are trying to get at.
Examine your emoting there.
Serious question? Followed by a derogatory conclusion of my position ….
Based….
Upon your claim that you have “know” idea what I’m talking about.
Seriously how can you conclude that I’m grasping at straws and then admit you don’t know what I’m talking about?
AND…….
How could you not know what I’m talking about….it was your tantrum? Your attack to me is an emotional tantrum. I’m not playing a victim here at all. Your attacks are humorous, harmless and useful to my position. Since you brought up Trump….your attacks remind me of the emotion outbursts from the “snowflakes” following the last election.
But what was I talking about there when I referenced “atheistic exclusion”?
Well this………………..
Post 6 you even use the term exclusive.
Post 14 you bemoan there is no room for diversity directly inferring Christianity is so exclusive.
Post 21 you bemoan……….. Exclusive nature of heaven and hell.
In post 28 I attempted to draw your attention to the fact that truth is exclusive. The law of the excluded middle….(p V ~P)….The past universe is finite or eternal….there is no other choice. You bemoan theism as being exclusive and thus proudly profess your atheism. Which you miss is just as exclusive. Atheism holds to the position there is no god. There is no life after death…..how unpoetic. When you die you’re done……..how crude? How about this for elegance……. “life has no higher purpose than to perpetuate the survival of DNA” …. life has no objective purpose. All of those are exclusive positions. I raise those points only to juxtapose your emotions against theism, to your blindness of the exclusive nature of your atheistic beliefs.
Again, atheism is a rejection of theist clams and proofs offered for a god. That is it. End of story.
How crude, inelegant and narrow minded. Well blind minded. To reject one set of beliefs does not render your position devoid of belief and thus beyond reproach. You may emotionally want the argument (not proof) to end there but it logically does not. Your rejection of theistic arguments does not mean the arguments failed. It may mean you find them uncompelling, but your emotional rejection does not render the arguments invalid, unsound or bad.
Some atheists make money by pushing atheism with an agenda. Atheism is not exclusionary in general.
I’m addressing your atheism and your inability to notice its overt exclusiveness.
Most do not care what you believe as long as it does not affect us and is not harmful. Like extreme Muslims.. are. And extreme Christians in Africa.
Snore.
One can be atheist and believe in alien abductions, ghosts, Big Foot, and the Loch Ness Monster.
….and also blindly believe that they are not exclusive.
But ….
Are any of those entities...... actually deities?
That was the context……remember?
Heck I know theists that allow credence for those as well.
