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Punched priest believes cross around his neck 'Enraged' suspect

BURIEN, Wash. - From his home at the All-Merciful Saviour Monastery on Vashon Island, Abbot Tryphon told KIRO 7 about how he was suddenly attacked Tuesday morning while gassing up at the Mobil Station on Southwest 148th Street in Burien.

“I have never been hit as hard,” the Russian Orthodox priest said Wednesday. The at-large suspect “zeroed in on my cross, because when he started coming my direction, he had this look of anger.”

The leader of the Vashon monks said the man who struck him first asked, “How’s Trump?” When Abbot Tryphon answered, “I have no idea, that’s when he hit me.”

https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/pu...oss-around-his-neck-enraged-suspect/941141765

Seems like the best part about Nazi-punching is the power we give to every day people to decide who is and isn't a Nazi.

If you watch the video, you can see punching Nazis makes this guy feel pumped up. Alive.
 
If you watch the video, you can see punching Nazis makes this guy feel pumped up. Alive.

No, this is a punching of a non-Nazi. It's unrelated to punching a Nazi.

Why would someone punch a non-Nazi?

Is that a new thing?

Asking people "how's Trump" and punching them even if they aren't Nazis?

I am against your Trumpian position of making a false equivalency between Nazis and other groups.
 
Why would someone punch a non-Nazi?

Is that a new thing?

Asking people "how's Trump" and punching them even if they aren't Nazis?

I am against your Trumpian position of making a false equivalency between Nazis and other groups.

Do you mean the puncher made a false equivalence by punching this priest like he was a Nazi?

(For the record: I'm not the puncher - I apologize if that wasn't clear.)
 
You're the only one here who called the priest a nazi.

You're assuming the puncher isn't a member here. We have a lot of Nazi punching advocates here. He could be one of them.

And if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.

Are you saying there are not women with balls? Wow, how unwoke.

No wonder you are having trouble processing this this man's fundamental right to identify and punch Nazis.
 
Is there a point to all this? It seems below you, dismal. If any mistaken application of force makes it illegitimate, then no application of force is ever legitimate. Is that the hill you want to die on?
 
Is there a point to all this? It seems below you, dismal. If any mistaken application of force makes it illegitimate, then no application of force is ever legitimate. Is that the hill you want to die on?

What makes you think this was "mistaken"? It looked like he meant to do it.
 
I really don't see how a guy in any christian priestly garb would be construed by a rational person as related to Trump.

Probably a mentally ill person or druggy hit the guy.

Saying the Trump thing is probably just something he has associated with his own internal aggression. Mental people also latch onto the zeitgeist.

How much can an already deranged person have Trump Derangement Syndrome?

And there are real cases of TDS out there infecting previously well people. If they don't get it under control it will aid in Cheeto man getting reelected.

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If a guy had a red, but not a MAGA baseball cap and got punched from behind in the same way "Here's your MAGA, bitch!" that would really be a solid case to bring to this forum.
 
Is there a point to all this? It seems below you, dismal. If any mistaken application of force makes it illegitimate, then no application of force is ever legitimate. Is that the hill you want to die on?

What makes you think this was "mistaken"? It looked like he meant to do it.

But he was incorrect about some highly relevant information which is... the definition of being mistaken. Are you okay today?
 
Is there a point to all this? It seems below you, dismal. If any mistaken application of force makes it illegitimate, then no application of force is ever legitimate. Is that the hill you want to die on?

What makes you think this was "mistaken"? It looked like he meant to do it.

But he was incorrect about some highly relevant information which is... the definition of being mistaken. Are you okay today?

It might help if you actually said what you're trying to say. What is the highly relevant information?
 
It might help if you actually said what you're trying to say. What is the highly relevant information?
That the guy he thought was a Nazi wasn't a Nazi. I don't know what you're getting at here.
 
It might help if you actually said what you're trying to say. What is the highly relevant information?
That the guy he thought was a Nazi wasn't a Nazi. I don't know what you're getting at here.

Well, for one, at this point we don't know for a fact this guy isn't a Nazi.

But in any case, this seems to be a risk one must be willing to tolerate if one advocates empowering individuals to identify and punch Nazis.

Better that 100 innocent priests should get punched than 1 *real* Nazis go unpunched, right?
 
It might help if you actually said what you're trying to say. What is the highly relevant information?
That the guy he thought was a Nazi wasn't a Nazi. I don't know what you're getting at here.

Well, for one, at this point we don't know for a fact this guy isn't a Nazi.

But in any case, this seems to be a risk one must be willing to tolerate if one advocates empowering individuals to identify and punch Nazis.

Better that 100 innocent priests should get punched than 1 *real* Nazis go unpunched, right?

I mean the ratio is obviously in the other direction, but the answer is still yes. Direct action is the best way to combat fascism. I'm a little confused as to why you think this is something people like me wouldn't accept. Can I assume you're not in favor of violence against any group if there is a chance of misidentifying members of it?
 
Well, for one, at this point we don't know for a fact this guy isn't a Nazi.

But in any case, this seems to be a risk one must be willing to tolerate if one advocates empowering individuals to identify and punch Nazis.

Better that 100 innocent priests should get punched than 1 *real* Nazis go unpunched, right?

I mean the ratio is obviously in the other direction, but the answer is still yes. Direct action is the best way to combat fascism. I'm a little confused as to why you think this is something people like me wouldn't accept. Can I assume you're not in favor of violence against any group if there is a chance of misidentifying members of it?

I confess I have a little trouble convincing myself punching an old guy at Seattle gas station in 2019 has much to do with "combating fascism".

Maybe if the old guy were Hitler or Goebbels, but I'd place my money on the over if there were a prop bet that there would be 100 people mistakenly identified as Hitler or Goebbels at a Seattle gas station before one was accurately identified.

If you add in the fact the old guy is dressed like a Russian Orthodox monk, I'd say the odds of a correct identification are even lower.

Hence, it seems to me the bigger fascists are the ones who feel they are empowered to identify Nazis and and punch them. At least, it does not strike me as being consistent with the liberal democratic concept of "due process".
 
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