Are they going to damage/hamper the March for our Lives Movement?

[Mumbles]

That's actually their most annoying feature. The incessant harping on "privilege" gets old quick.



The problem with #BLM is that they do not even care about the high rate of gun violence in black communities. Unless they can blame whitey or police, they just don't care.

Derec, would you mind just stepping out of this thread? Please.

He's not wrong.

He's laughably wrong here - but that's expected.

 

[Trausti]

He's not wrong.

He's laughably wrong here - but that's expected.

How is he wrong? Has BLM protested against gun violence in black neighborhoods? If not, then he's not wrong.

 

[RavenSky]

The issue of perceived disparity in media attention was raised by Naomi Wadler, 11, at the March for Our Lives rally in Washington DC. She co-led a walkout from her school last week and said she represented black American girls ignored by the media and suffering from gun violence.

Naomi Wadler's speech was absolutely amazing, and very much focused on "every day" gun violence

“I am here to acknowledge and represent the African American girls whose stories don’t make the front page of every national newspaper, whose stories don’t lead on the evening news,” Wadler said. “I represent the African American women who are victims of gun violence, who are simply statistics instead of vibrant, beautiful girls full of potential.”

And Edna Chavez spoke very directly about neighborhood gun violence:

Edna Chavez, a South Los Angeles resident, recalled the day her brother was killed.

"Ricardo was his name," Chavez said, asking the crowd to say his name. "Ricardo! Ricardo!" the crowd chanted in unison.

"I lost more than my brother that day. I lost my hero," Chavez said.

Earlier in her speech, Chavez talked about the normalcy of gun violence in her neighborhood. "I've learned to duck from bullets before I learned how to read," she said.

Never Again founder David Hogg also said black survivors in his school, where 25% of the pupils are black, had not received the same media platform as himself and other teenagers.

 

[Mumbles]

I can understand anger given the massive amounts of media coverage (almost all of it positive), police support, political support - but have to agree with Playball that misdirected anger is counter-productive.

As for who might have marched in earlier BLM demonstrations? Probably not the Parkland kids. They are barely old enough to be marching for their own lives now.

But a lot of us white people did, in fact, march with #BLM for Trayvon/Freddie Grey/Stephon Clark/Rekia Boyd/Hadiyah Pendleton/etc. - just like Saturday's march included people of color who didn't know or lose anyone in the Marjory Stoneman Douglas shooting. Anyone who is angry might want to actually ask first.

I also recall news outlets like CNN and MSNBC covering the police attack on Ferguson (among others, Washing Post reporters being arrested, RT and Don Lemon being teargassed, and Jake Tapper pointing out the absurdity of the police banana republic tactics), and as I recall it was outlets like Daily Beast that pointed out that the Bmore riots started when police blocked high school students from going home, and then attacked them for not going home. And that photo I linked to before was from Reuters.

And I know quite a few people who basically pulled back from commenting during friday's marches - basically saying "you know what, I'm mad, let me be quiet for a bit." But Twitter is what it is, some people were just mad and lashing out, some people were the usual conspiracy theorists, teenagers, and assorted fools, and so forth. And the former group were quiet in part so as not to encourage the latter types.

aI'm sure you've noticed that Twitter can get weird.

 

[RavenSky]

I'm sure you've noticed that Twitter can get weird.

understatement of the century, though in truth I have seen almost nothing of what the BBC article claims is being said, other than the comments about Killer Mike.

I did see quite a bit of anger at the lack of media attention to the first two bombs in Austin, though media coverage picked up rapidly after that.

 

[Mumbles]

He's not wrong.

He's laughably wrong here - but that's expected.

How is he wrong? Has BLM protested against gun violence in black neighborhoods? If not, then he's not wrong.

And he, in fact, is wrong. The very fact that BLM was started in response to Trayvon Martin 's murder by a wannabe vigilante is enough for that - never mind the anti-violence, pro-education, and disaster relief they've done since then.

This is basically a rehash of the tired "Al Sharpton doesn't talk about 'black on black' crime" argument, which ignores his long history of decrying violence in any form - and the very obvious fact that people will not trust a wildly violent police force that routinely harms innocent people.

 

[Trausti]

How is he wrong? Has BLM protested against gun violence in black neighborhoods? If not, then he's not wrong.

And he, in fact, is wrong. The very fact that BLM was started in response to Trayvon Martin 's murder by a wannabe vigilante is enough for that - never mind the anti-violence, pro-education, and disaster relief they've done since then.

This is basically a rehash of the tired "Al Sharpton doesn't talk about 'black on black' crime" argument, which ignores his long history of decrying violence in any form - and the very obvious fact that people will not trust a wildly violent police force that routinely harms innocent people.

So he's not wrong. BLM has not protested against gun violence in black neighborhoods.

 

[LordKiran]

How is he wrong? Has BLM protested against gun violence in black neighborhoods? If not, then he's not wrong.

And he, in fact, is wrong. The very fact that BLM was started in response to Trayvon Martin 's murder by a wannabe vigilante is enough for that - never mind the anti-violence, pro-education, and disaster relief they've done since then.

This is basically a rehash of the tired "Al Sharpton doesn't talk about 'black on black' crime" argument, which ignores his long history of decrying violence in any form - and the very obvious fact that people will not trust a wildly violent police force that routinely harms innocent people.

So he's not wrong. BLM has not protested against gun violence in black neighborhoods.

Reading comprehension fail.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The problem with #BLM is that they do not even care about the high rate of gun violence in black communities. Unless they can blame whitey or police, they just don't care.

The American Cancer Association doesn't protest about black on black violence.

Also, can you provide a list of all of #BLM's protests? I wasn't aware you were so involved in their protests across the nation.

 

[dismal]

Also, can you provide a list of all of #BLM's protests?

This purports to be one:

https://elephrame.com/textbook/BLM

 

[Derec]

The problem with #BLM is that they do not even care about the high rate of gun violence in black communities. Unless they can blame whitey or police, they just don't care.

The American Cancer Association doesn't protest about black on black violence.

No shot Sherlock! They do not protest at all.
#BLM purports to be about "black lives", but they care only about certain black lives - those killed by police or white(ish) civilians.

 

[Derec]

Apparently some black students at the Parkland school do not appreciate more police being around.
Black Students At #MSD Express Concern Over Greater Police Presence

Wednesday, a group of black students from Parkland’s Marjory Stoneman Douglas high school called a press conference to say “they want the movement to include their voices too,” and to express concerns they have over an increase in Police presence on campus.
Kai Koerber, a 17-year-old student at Marjory Stoneman Douglas, told reporters “while some might feel comfort to have more police officers at Marjory Stoneman Douglas, he does not. He says it’s intimidating & that black students will face most of the consequences of an overmilitarized predominantly white school.”

Uh-huh.

 

[Mumbles]

Apparently some black students at the Parkland school do not appreciate more police being around.
Black Students At #MSD Express Concern Over Greater Police Presence

Wednesday, a group of black students from Parkland’s Marjory Stoneman Douglas high school called a press conference to say “they want the movement to include their voices too,” and to express concerns they have over an increase in Police presence on campus.
Kai Koerber, a 17-year-old student at Marjory Stoneman Douglas, told reporters “while some might feel comfort to have more police officers at Marjory Stoneman Douglas, he does not. He says it’s intimidating & that black students will face most of the consequences of an overmilitarized predominantly white school.”

Uh-huh.

I'd feel the exact same way, and studies agree with their concerns, so I don't blame them.

 

[Playball40]

Apparently some black students at the Parkland school do not appreciate more police being around.
Black Students At #MSD Express Concern Over Greater Police Presence

Wednesday, a group of black students from Parkland’s Marjory Stoneman Douglas high school called a press conference to say “they want the movement to include their voices too,” and to express concerns they have over an increase in Police presence on campus.
Kai Koerber, a 17-year-old student at Marjory Stoneman Douglas, told reporters “while some might feel comfort to have more police officers at Marjory Stoneman Douglas, he does not. He says it’s intimidating & that black students will face most of the consequences of an overmilitarized predominantly white school.”

Uh-huh.

I'd feel the exact same way, and studies agree with their concerns, so I don't blame them.

Me either. Yikes.

 

[Underseer]

Welcome to America, where children begging for their lives is a controversial political position.

https://plus.google.com/117153704594120768033/posts/TmabfV6E7ai

America's response to Black Lives Matter was but a precursor.

 

[Underseer]

http://deepstatenation.news/politic...ells-followers-to-go-after-david-hogg-harder/

A Nevada Republican is facing backlash after trying to encourage people to "go after" one of the kids.

Again, America is the kind of place where children begging for their lives enrages "pro life" people.

 

[Underseer]

Apparently some black students at the Parkland school do not appreciate more police being around.
Black Students At #MSD Express Concern Over Greater Police Presence

Wednesday, a group of black students from Parkland’s Marjory Stoneman Douglas high school called a press conference to say “they want the movement to include their voices too,” and to express concerns they have over an increase in Police presence on campus.
Kai Koerber, a 17-year-old student at Marjory Stoneman Douglas, told reporters “while some might feel comfort to have more police officers at Marjory Stoneman Douglas, he does not. He says it’s intimidating & that black students will face most of the consequences of an overmilitarized predominantly white school.”

Uh-huh.

I'd feel the exact same way, and studies agree with their concerns, so I don't blame them.

You what?

How dare you?

You don't deserve to live in a police state!

 

[ZiprHead]

I'd feel the exact same way, and studies agree with their concerns, so I don't blame them.

You what?

How dare you?

You don't deserve to live in a police state!

Hey, who wouldn't want a cop to come into the classroom for a disruptive student and throw her half way across the room. Then arrest the kid.

 

[Underseer]

I'd feel the exact same way, and studies agree with their concerns, so I don't blame them.

You what?

How dare you?

You don't deserve to live in a police state!

Hey, who wouldn't want a cop to come into the classroom for a disruptive student and throw her half way across the room. Then arrest the kid.

You have a problem with cops doing that?

It sounds like you are saying that you don't want to live in a police state, but you can't possibly think that. Because only a dirty, no-good commie would want to live in a free country instead of a police state, and you don't want to be a commie, do you?

Back to the original topic:



Apparently, children begging for their lives are the same thing as murderers, therefore we are morally justified in ignoring their pleas.

 

[RavenSky]

Apparently some black students at the Parkland school do not appreciate more police being around.
Black Students At #MSD Express Concern Over Greater Police Presence

Wednesday, a group of black students from Parkland’s Marjory Stoneman Douglas high school called a press conference to say “they want the movement to include their voices too,” and to express concerns they have over an increase in Police presence on campus.
Kai Koerber, a 17-year-old student at Marjory Stoneman Douglas, told reporters “while some might feel comfort to have more police officers at Marjory Stoneman Douglas, he does not. He says it’s intimidating & that black students will face most of the consequences of an overmilitarized predominantly white school.”

Uh-huh.

Do you have a clue why they feel that way?

Do you care?