The Problems Of Rural Christian White Americans

[ZiprHead]

An insider explains how rural Christian white America has a dark and terrifying underbelly

"As the election of Donald Trump is being sorted out, a common theme keeps cropping up from all sides: “Democrats failed to understand white, working-class, fly-over America.”

Trump supporters are saying this. Progressive pundits are saying this. Talking heads across all forms of the media are saying this. Even some Democratic leaders are saying this. It doesn’t matter how many people say it, it is complete BS. It is an intellectual/linguistic sleight of hand meant to draw attention away from the real problem. The real problem isn’t East Coast elites who don’t understand or care about rural America. The real problem is that rural Americans don’t understand the causes of their own situations and fears and they have shown no interest in finding out. They don’t want to know why they feel the way they do or why they are struggling because they don’t want to admit it is in large part because of the choices they’ve made and the horrible things they’ve allowed themselves to believe."

 

[LordKiran]

http://www.metamodernism.com/

You know ever since (I think Bilby) Brought the topic up I've had a passing interest in the new cultural shifts and the more I think about it in retrospect it all makes perfect sense that voters (As part of a larger shifting zeitgeist) would snub cold dispassionate orators in favor of spectacle speakers and storytellers.

Also I disagree that the majority of trump's base are rural folk. I think the bulk of Trump's base are disaffected suburbanites.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

It's only going to get worse. The churches will be allowed to be even more political with their money and energy...the fat cat pastors want promotions up the chains of capitalism, too.

 

[Angry Floof]

An insider explains how rural Christian white America has a dark and terrifying underbelly

As the election of Donald Trump is being sorted out, a common theme keeps cropping up from all sides: “Democrats failed to understand white, working-class, fly-over America.”

Trump supporters are saying this. Progressive pundits are saying this. Talking heads across all forms of the media are saying this. Even some Democratic leaders are saying this. It doesn’t matter how many people say it, it is complete BS. It is an intellectual/linguistic sleight of hand meant to draw attention away from the real problem. The real problem isn’t East Coast elites who don’t understand or care about rural America. The real problem is that rural Americans don’t understand the causes of their own situations and fears and they have shown no interest in finding out. They don’t want to know why they feel the way they do or why they are struggling because they don’t want to admit it is in large part because of the choices they’ve made and the horrible things they’ve allowed themselves to believe.

^ That's Trump's base.

http://www.metamodernism.com/

You know ever since (I think Bilby) Brought the topic up I've had a passing interest in the new cultural shifts and the more I think about it in retrospect it all makes perfect sense that voters (As part of a larger shifting zeitgeist) would snub cold dispassionate orators in favor of spectacle speakers and storytellers.

Also I disagree that the majority of trump's base are rural folk. I think the bulk of Trump's base are disaffected suburbanites.

See above.

 

[TSwizzle]

Hilarious. Hey, Hillary lost !!

Get over it and start the strategy for next election. Idiots.

 

[zorq]

Hilarious. Hey, Hillary lost !!

Get over it and start the strategy for next election. Idiots.

Those who refuse to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it. That's kind of the point in the OP.

Insisting that we ignore/forget/not disect recent events is exactly the attitude the article in the OP ascribes to Trump's supporters. It is an amusing irony that you would be foolish enough to flaunt that exact attitude as a response to this thread.

Thank you for providing yourself as a quintessential example of this problem.

 

[TSwizzle]

Yeah, the country bumpkins won the election. Get a grip.

It really is hilarious

 

[Angry Floof]

Again, thanks for the demonstration.

 

[rousseau]

I don't know that assigning blame to populations who don't have much intrinsic understanding of their situation is going to be helpful. If you're asking people who aren't critically thinking about politics to suddenly start thinking critically, then you're in for a rude awakening when the next election comes down the line.

As far as I can tell rural America is experiencing serious brain/economic drain because of a shifting economy, which is making rich urban centres more rich, and poor rural areas more poor. So rural regions are becoming increasingly red.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Yeah, the country bumpkins won the election. Get a grip.

It really is hilarious ??????

Interesting. What is it in the article that you disagree with?

I have a different take. I think that it's a fools gold for the democrats to go after the "country Bumkins". There is this belief that if we offer them free health care and college that they will return to the democratic folds. Rural America is voting republican today because they are scared. Their resource dependent jobs are falling behind. They are falling behind the college educated, flexible, technology driven millennials. The republicans are snake oil salesman selling them that the $100,000 a year resource jobs will return once the wall is erected; trade barriers are enacted; and the Islamic hordes are repelled.

 

[braces_for_impact]

I would argue that the only ones that can "get a grip" on the situation are those that are analyzing, carefully, what is happening in our country with regards to politics, culture shifts, media, and so on. I understand it's like a Trump humper calling card to say such things, but many of us are concerned, have a right to be concerned, and will do our best to make sure that what we see as dangerous and immoral will come to an end sooner rather than later, and put in safeguards in the hope that it won't happen again. This is what adults do as opposed to trolls, which seem to be that basement level of support that will never abandon Trump.

Yes, the trolls got lucky in that they got their great orange hope into high office, but fortunately for us, the trolls aren't that bright, although they are capable of causing large amounts of damage. So the adults in the country will have to clean up the mess and get things back on track, and that base level of support will have to slink back into the shadows to bide their time some more, and go back to meeting at clan rallies, Brietbart and the comment pages of Fox news. Youtube as well, of course, lest we forget.

We can be called snowflakes and cucks and whatever else you like, but we all saw how incredibly fragile the ego of that base level of support was, and how they seethed and ranted and raved because a black man was in office. A black man that was smarter than them, had better character than they did, and had expertise, aplomb and grace. In short he wasn't just black, he was a black elite. Soon, those elites will be back to telling you how you should live again, and that brave, wise cracking base will be responding with all of the courage of a man that calls out epithets from a speeding car and then high fives their buddy that's driving, because, god damn it you sure told them.

 

[TSwizzle]

A year in to Trumps administration and the Whitehouse is a clusterfuck of epic proportions and you lot are still crying about losing. Keep it up and you'll give the buffoon a second term.

 

[prideandfall]

i've never understood why so much attention is paid to these redneck inbred sister-fucking hillbilly voters... well, except for the utterly fucked electoral college system which makes their states important.

actually i guess the electoral college is the entire reason, because otherwise who really gives a shit about these people?

mainstream political zeitgeist has only cared about rural voters for the last 40 years, nobody notices or cares anything about liberals and their values and whether anyone is appealing to them.
which makes sense in a way because the assumption is that "the liberals are gonna vote dem no matter what" but i guess i don't get why the same assumption isn't made for conservatives and republicans and what the purpose is to the political establishment caring so god damn much about rural voters.

 

[TSwizzle]

That's the ticket to win over the inbred sister fucking hillbillies !!

Dry your fucking tears !! Hilarious

 

[prideandfall]

That's the ticket to win over the inbred sister fucking hillbillies !!

Dry your fucking tears !! Hilarious

democrats aren't going to win them, ever, because they are too stupid to grasp that democrats are the political party that serves their interests and well being.
so, why the hell should the supposedly opposition political party give a flying fuck about what the other side's entrenched voter base thinks?

if you're the democrats and your options are:
A. try desperately to appeal to people who will never ever vote for you, and in doing so ignore and disenfranchise your own base at best, and alienate them to the point of losing votes at worst.
B. actually pay attention to the people who vote for you for once, lean into liberal politics, and tell conservatives to go fuck themselves.

aside from your snarky little quips and self satisfied drive-bys, can you provide anything even resembling a logical political advantage to democrats trying to appeal to conservative voters, or giving any fucks about them whatsoever?

 

[Harry Bosch]

That's the ticket to win over the inbred sister fucking hillbillies !!

Dry your fucking tears !! Hilarious

It's interesting that both people on the left and the right greatly underestimate Trump.

 

[TSwizzle]

Hilarious, on the floor !! I'm almost tempted to make a contribution. LMFAO.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Hilarious, on the floor !! I'm almost tempted to make a contribution. LMFAO.

Trump is probably the greatest President that this generation has ever seen. The Russians were very wise to throw their support behind him.


{This is pretty fun. I've always wanted to be a standup comedian!}

 

[TSwizzle]

Trump is probably the greatest President that this generation has ever seen. The Russians were very wise to throw their support behind him.

Trump will be the worst president in the history of presidents. But the clueless Dems will ensure he gets a second term.

 

[prideandfall]

But the clueless Dems will ensure he gets a second term.

this is demonstrably false and also completely illogical.

if trump gets a second term it will be due to clueless republicans - perhaps with a dose of democratic political stupidity, but blaming the dems for the fact that about 50% of the voting population of the US votes republican.