You were the one that mentioned: You are composed of energy that is connected in such a way that it forms a unit
Energy that forms the example of intelligence we're aware of needs matter to arrange and retain that connection, to form the intelligence.
Energy that forms all forms that we're aware of needs
itself to arrange and retain the various forms (and beings) it creates.
Well, energy needs some of that energy to be in the form of matter in order to have any sort of differentiation, which would allow it to have a memory.
Without that, it's not going to have any desires.
You don't find intelligences that aren't connected to matter in this manner. At least, you haven't offered any examples of bodiless intelligences that stand up to scrutiny.
I pretty much doubt you'll find any intelligence that isn't connected to energy in some way. So what? This doesn't indicate that energy itself does not possess intelligence.
Yes, it does, really.
Cars use gasoline.
That doesn't make it meaningful to say gasoline is cars.
It's wrong to say energy is intelligence.
The fact that it behaves in specific patterns indicate something about it, and the fact that these patterns sustain everything indicate something about it as well.
Yes, just not what you think it says.
Memory on a computer is bits of energy stored in a silicon matrix, right? 1's and 0's that can be accessed because the matter in the computer can direct the energy to react, interact, and report the results elsewhere.
Without the matter of the chip, there's no way to organize the energy into 1's and 0's.
Ohh, we are totally dependent on energy behaving in specific ways for us to be able to do anything.
stipulated.
If energy didn't behave in very specific ways, following specific patterns, we would not be able to interact with it and learn to do various things with energy. We are utterly dependent upon it following specific patterns of behavior and responding to our desires.
But that only means we can manipulate it, not that it has ingelligence.
There's no way to organize pure energy into patterns to store data. This would apply to memories and to an active consciousness. No way to have 1's and 0's and no way to process 1's and 0's. Without some sort of substrate, energy cannot be conscious.
So matter, which is pure energy, cannot be organized into patterns to store data?
Now, now. You asked why energy needs a substrate in order to store data. Energy not in the form of matter cannot store data.
Which brings us to the limits of how much matter we would need in order to store data.
For the entire universe to be intelligent would require many millions of universes to be dedicated to retaining data for our universe to have any sort of desires.
You can't have a desire without a memory.
What part of e=mc^2 don't you understand?
The amount of energy available in a quantity of matter has no bearing on its ability to store data. A 65 bit chip powered by a nuclear reaction still only has 64 bits to store data.
A lightning bolt can still only express one bit: Lightning, active on a 1.
Mass energy equivalence. Everything comprises of energy in some form, energy forms all forms.
Yes. So brains are energy. It is not logical to therefore state that energy is brains, right?
Intelligence uses energy.
It is not the same thing to say energy is intelligence.
Only a fraction of the 'energy' we are composed of is useful for storing data and retaining our personality.
Based on viewing us, it's far more logical to conclude that only a fraction of the energy in the universe even COULD be intelligent.
