If migrants sexually assault young girls , then who is at fault?

[Crazy Eddie]

Is it the fault girls, or the migrants?

It's clearly Obama's fault.

And also the liberal media. And also George Soros for some reason.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

If migrants sexually assault young girls , then who is at fault?

nobody fault because it a propaganda of right wing nuts

The report exists. While I don't read Swedish, the title alone is enough to see that there's a problem.

No, that's not actually how problems work.

A problem would mean that there's data which indicates there's a problem. The existence of a report which may or may not touch upon the issue and an eye-catching headline which may or may not accurately reflect the content of the article would, at best, indicate that there's a problem with the reader, not that there's a problem with the issue under discussion.

 

[blastula]

Is it the fault girls, or the migrants?

Probably the same fault when it's committed by born citizens.

 

[bilby]

I expect it's the false dichotomies that are to blame.

Bloody false dichotomies, coming here taking either our jobs, or our women.

 

[Malintent]

If migrants sexually assault young girls , then who is at fault?

nobody fault because it a propaganda of right wing nuts

The report exists. While I don't read Swedish, the title alone is enough to see that there's a problem.

dude.. you're a man, with a woman's name. That alone tells me everything there is to know about you.

Like that?

Edited... aw crap, meant to quote Mrs. Pechtel

 

[Tom Sawyer]

dude.. you're a man, with a woman's name. That alone tells me everything there is to know about you.

Like that?

Edited... aw crap, meant to quote Mrs. Pechtel

Did you honestly just insult someone by comparing him to a woman? :huh:

Are you a twelve year old in the 1950s?

 

[Malintent]

True story...

In 1999, I led a team of Security Professionals in an international conference, hosted in Las Vegas. We flew in dozens of Operations and Engineering teams from all around the world. I had a large staff in India doing Security Operations, and (for about 4 of them) their first visit to the US was on my program.

So, I take a large portion of my team out for dinner on the first night. Partying (like, it WAS 1999), at various places I got invitations / comps, etc.. We got to a nightclub around 11:00PM.. and were kicked out before 12:00.

Here's what happened....

The cocktail waitresses had about enough of 2 of the Indian folk I brought. They simply were incapable of keeping their hands to themselves. They didn;t understand "look, but don't touch". I mean, they head-bobbled that they understood (the Indian 'sideways-nod')... with hands up, palms forward.. they comprehended the rules. But, faced with nearly naked women around them, culturally, their heads exploded and they simply could not contain themselves.

We just had to leave. I sent them back to their hotel for the night. they never really understood that they did anything wrong. I think I remember one of them saying something about the bouncer 'being in a bad mood' or something. Prolly their first "bouncer" too.

I can understand (without excusing) certain behavior towards Western women from Eastern men that are not prepared to deal with the freedom and respect that women (should and usually) get in the West.

I don't think any of them would have raped anyone by any means... but sexual assault was their MO, beginning to end.

I understand where the notion that "migrants are raping our women" comes from, besides pure rhetoric and hyperbole... it comes from the fact that 'their' women expose no skin except when they are about to have sex... so when they see skin, their dicks get hard... They just need time to adapt to Western life... and to be faced with the same consequences that anyone else would... how else will they learn?

 

[Malintent]

dude.. you're a man, with a woman's name. That alone tells me everything there is to know about you.

Like that?

Edited... aw crap, meant to quote Mrs. Pechtel

Did you honestly just insult someone by comparing him to a woman? :huh:

Are you a twelve year old in the 1950s?

Nope. I just pointed out to someone who essentially said he gets all the facts he needs from a headline that "first glances" may not give you all the information you need.

But, just for you, I will now point out that you write like a girl. All, girlish and stuff.

I might have been 12 in the 1950's, but you are being twelve like right now.

 

[fromderinside]

Why do I get the impression your book looks and reads like Elmer Fudd.

to wit:

I understand where the notion that "migrants are raping our women" comes from, besides pure rhetoric and hyperbole... it comes from the fact that 'their' women expose no skin except when they are about to have sex... so when they see skin, their dicks get hard... They just need time to adapt to Western life... and to be faced with the same consequences that anyone else would... how else will they learn?

How about the idea that their sex takes place in the privacy of their own bedroom makes your generalization irrelevant?

 

[ronburgundy]

An amusing combination of right-wing anti-Muslim propaganda appropriating the left-wing culture by engaging false accusations of "victim blaming". Of course our resident accusers of "victim blaming" seem to have no problem with the latter part, only with the claim that most of the perpetrators are Muslim immigrants.

Nowhere does the report "blame" the women/girls as the OP and various headlines assert. Following in leftist's footsteps, these propaganda pieces are are inserting words like "blame" and notions of moral or legal accountability where none exist, by conflating these notions with references to causal factors to explain patterns of probability (in this case why Sweden seems to have far higher instances of public "molestation" of young women than other EU nations.

First, all the references to "Nordic alcohol culture" and "gender norms" are not views by the author's of the report but references to opinion's about the nature of these encounters given in surveys by women and young people generally, such as a survey of 42,000 women done by an EU women's rights organization. Second, even these views are not "blaming" the women and implying the molesters are not at fault, but rather is just these survey respondents (many of them female victims of such molestations) trying to explain the cause of the differential rates of these crimes by pointing to interacting contextual factors. People pointing to the men often being drunk, horny, and not considering the consequences for the women does nothing to reduce their blame, unless one buys the absurd notion that these things absolve one of responsibility.

As to the Muslim immigrant blaming, there are zero stats in the report that speak to this. There are a couple examples of the men being "Arab", and one place where it says that of the tiny % where info on the perp is know, most are "foreign", simply meaning not Swedish. IOW, that includes white foreigners from all over Europe and the US who go to bars and try to cop a feel from a hot Swedish girl.
Also, the notion that most of these are "gangs of immigrants" is directly refuted by the fact that only 15 out of about 2000 incidents in the last 2 years involved more than 1 perp.

 

[Malintent]

Why do I get the impression your book looks and reads like Elmer Fudd.

to wit:

I understand where the notion that "migrants are raping our women" comes from, besides pure rhetoric and hyperbole... it comes from the fact that 'their' women expose no skin except when they are about to have sex... so when they see skin, their dicks get hard... They just need time to adapt to Western life... and to be faced with the same consequences that anyone else would... how else will they learn?

How about the idea that their sex takes place in the privacy of their own bedroom makes your generalization irrelevant?

Your opinion doesn't seem to affect their behavior.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Did you honestly just insult someone by comparing him to a woman? :huh:

Are you a twelve year old in the 1950s?

Nope. I just pointed out to someone who essentially said he gets all the facts he needs from a headline that "first glances" may not give you all the information you need.

Ah, I completely misread the context of your point then. Never mind.

 

[fromderinside]

Your opinion doesn't seem to affect their behavior.

Mine is not an opinion it is a statement of fact of situation. In other words you take as aspect of a situation as a rational for behavior in entirely different conditions based only on appearance of skin. Very thin, very thin indeed.

 

[repoman]

Liberal cucks will endure rape of their children in school just to avoid having to say:

"Ann Coulter was right."

 

[blastula]

Repoman, what are you doing about rape by non-immigrants? It is much more common. Do you endure it?

 

[untermensche]

Liberal cucks will endure rape of their children in school just to avoid having to say:

"Ann Coulter was right."

Delusional paranoids should stay on their medications.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Liberal cucks will endure rape of their children in school just to avoid having to say:

"Ann Coulter was right."

Meanwhile conservative parents are weeping at the news of their child being raped in school and crying out "Only if the rapist had been a legal resident."

 

[funinspace]

Liberal cucks will endure rape of their children in school just to avoid having to say:

"Ann Coulter was right."

A broken clock can be right at times. However, where is the beef? I don't read Swedish, and I don't know enough about the express.co.uk to trust it as a source. It looks fairly shock orientated and I can tell it is right wing, so both of those are notches against it. I guess one could ask DrZoidberg for a summary of the actual report... I know the American right wing runs very fast and loose with the truth so long as it smears Muslims and Latinos. So again, I am back to the question of veracity of a source.

So yeah, I avoid ascribing to notions that are woefully unsupported...go figure. I also find the US to be horribly violent in both rape and murder...so obviously we need more unregistered guns and less liability for them

FiS
Moderate green libertarian

 

[repoman]

Liberal cucks will endure rape of their children in school just to avoid having to say:

"Ann Coulter was right."

Meanwhile conservative parents are weeping at the news of their child being raped in school and crying out "Only if the rapist had been a legal resident."

Someone needs to do a skit on this.

 

[ronburgundy]

Why do I get the impression your book looks and reads like Elmer Fudd.

to wit:

I understand where the notion that "migrants are raping our women" comes from, besides pure rhetoric and hyperbole... it comes from the fact that 'their' women expose no skin except when they are about to have sex... so when they see skin, their dicks get hard... They just need time to adapt to Western life... and to be faced with the same consequences that anyone else would... how else will they learn?

How about the idea that their sex takes place in the privacy of their own bedroom makes your generalization irrelevant?

How does the fact that sex takes place in the bedroom have any relevance? Conditioned responses typically generalize to other contexts. In fact, with a strong association, not only do surrounding context feature often not matter much, but even the stimulus can be changed to other things that are merely similar. That is the whole point of the classic "Little Albert" study where his trained fear of the white rat (due to it being associated with loud noise) was spontaneously generalized to fear of many fuzzy things, like rabbits, dogs, and even seal skin coats, and even Santa masks.

I'm not agreeing with everything in Malintent's post, but your objection that associations learned in a bedroom wouldn't generalize to anywhere but one's bedroom is refuted by pretty much every study on learning and conditioning ever.