Eagle cam redux 2

[Sarpedon]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/eagle-fox-hunt-gopro_us_58b91c8de4b05cf0f3ff74a9?

For those of you who expressed disappointment that the last eagle cam was just nesting and not hunting, here is a hunting eagle cam.

While the gopro is mounted to the back of the eagle, so you don't actually see the fox getting killed, it has a mic that captures the brief, piteous squeaks. Plays more like a horror movie than anything else.

 

[DolphinDynasty]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/eagle-fox-hunt-gopro_us_58b91c8de4b05cf0f3ff74a9?

For those of you who expressed disappointment that the last eagle cam was just nesting and not hunting, here is a hunting eagle cam.

While the gopro is mounted to the back of the eagle, so you don't actually see the fox getting killed, it has a mic that captures the brief, piteous squeaks. Plays more like a horror movie than anything else.

I didn't think eagles could hunt such large prey. It makes me wonder if its the result of human training for them or have they ever gone after such large prey in the wild on their own? I've seen them make runs for larger animals before in wild circumstances, but when thy find they cannot lift the kill, they go on to smaller rodents and baby herd animals, things they can get a grip on when flying it off to a tree to eat. As to the practice of using them as tools, it's no different than using a horse, dog or other animal to aid in hunts, or any other integral to that human or family reason, like with assistance dogs, or miniature horse, or when driving cattle or buffalo. As long as the birds are kept well in health, it probably makes them stronger than when on their own. When one needs, one must and all that. I know Mongolians still used horses and would have festivals with races, trick training, and music and rink and food with various tribes involved, so I'm not surprised to see them use raptor birds as well.

I am surprised it went after a fox, though, another predator. The meat isn't as easy to cure, cook or eat as with prey animals. I wonder if they another reason? Like if the fox had gone after a herd domesticated by humans? The video didn't say.

 

[Elixir]

I am surprised it went after a fox, though, another predator. The meat isn't as easy to cure, cook or eat as with prey animals. I wonder if they another reason? Like if the fox had gone after a herd domesticated by humans? The video didn't say.

We have eagles and foxes around here, and lots of rabbits. I've been told that eagles go after foxes because foxes go after the rabbits, which are preferred by the eagles. OTOH, we also have coyotes, bobcats and a few other rabbit-eaters, and I've never heard of eagles harassing them.

 

[DolphinDynasty]

I am surprised it went after a fox, though, another predator. The meat isn't as easy to cure, cook or eat as with prey animals. I wonder if they another reason? Like if the fox had gone after a herd domesticated by humans? The video didn't say.

We have eagles and foxes around here, and lots of rabbits. I've been told that eagles go after foxes because foxes go after the rabbits, which are preferred by the eagles. OTOH, we also have coyotes, bobcats and a few other rabbit-eaters, and I've never heard of eagles harassing them.

Maybe it's like with hippos harassing alligators even when hippos don't eat meat so it isn't about the food, more like whenever they see an alligator they go after it? I've even seen hippos strive to help n animal an alligator wanted to eat seemingly just t piss off the alligator.

Maybe the eagles really don't like foxes. Foxes do have more cunning in avoiding or escaping traps, and have a larger variety in diet than some other predators, because they often hunt as families except in urban areas where they split sooner and get hunted by people more often.

 

[Sarpedon]

Yes it is training. Golden eagles trained by gentlemen like those have been known to take down wolves or small deer. In general, a wild eagle won't kill an animal it can't lift, unless it thinks it can eat undisturbed.

I once saw a film of an eagle killing a goat by pulling it off a cliff and letting it fall to its death. This was natural behavior. Probably the rocky crag where the goat ended up was a safe enough place for the eagle to eat.

Raptors are nature's engines of death. Despite weighing only a few pounds, they punch well above their weight. A fox ain't nothing to an eagle.

 

[DolphinDynasty]

Yes it is training. Golden eagles trained by gentlemen like those have been known to take down wolves or small deer. In general, a wild eagle won't kill an animal it can't lift, unless it thinks it can eat undisturbed.

I once saw a film of an eagle killing a goat by pulling it off a cliff and letting it fall to its death. This was natural behavior. Probably the rocky crag where the goat ended up was a safe enough place for the eagle to eat.

Raptors are nature's engines of death. Despite weighing only a few pounds, they punch well above their weight. A fox ain't nothing to an eagle.

I admire the speed and dexterity of raptor birds. If I could have myself a rookery it would be for raptor birds of all kinds. Each type has its own set of skill an adaptation for hunting and foraging. We even adapted various planes to fit with the flight-specific wing structure and movement to certain birds, like this one type of eagle that hunts in forests that can expand and pull in its massive wings to fit in line with hunting through close grown trees. I don't remember its name though.

That vid makes ya think though, and I enjoy that most of all about the way we work.

 

[J842P]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/eagle-fox-hunt-gopro_us_58b91c8de4b05cf0f3ff74a9?

For those of you who expressed disappointment that the last eagle cam was just nesting and not hunting, here is a hunting eagle cam.

While the gopro is mounted to the back of the eagle, so you don't actually see the fox getting killed, it has a mic that captures the brief, piteous squeaks. Plays more like a horror movie than anything else.

I didn't think eagles could hunt such large prey. It makes me wonder if its the result of human training for them or have they ever gone after such large prey in the wild on their own? I've seen them make runs for larger animals before in wild circumstances, but when thy find they cannot lift the kill, they go on to smaller rodents and baby herd animals, things they can get a grip on when flying it off to a tree to eat. As to the practice of using them as tools, it's no different than using a horse, dog or other animal to aid in hunts, or any other integral to that human or family reason, like with assistance dogs, or miniature horse, or when driving cattle or buffalo. As long as the birds are kept well in health, it probably makes them stronger than when on their own. When one needs, one must and all that. I know Mongolians still used horses and would have festivals with races, trick training, and music and rink and food with various tribes involved, so I'm not surprised to see them use raptor birds as well.

I am surprised it went after a fox, though, another predator. The meat isn't as easy to cure, cook or eat as with prey animals. I wonder if they another reason? Like if the fox had gone after a herd domesticated by humans? The video didn't say.

Eagles will totally kill and eat a fox. They'll take ungulates.

 

[DolphinDynasty]

I didn't think eagles could hunt such large prey. It makes me wonder if its the result of human training for them or have they ever gone after such large prey in the wild on their own? I've seen them make runs for larger animals before in wild circumstances, but when thy find they cannot lift the kill, they go on to smaller rodents and baby herd animals, things they can get a grip on when flying it off to a tree to eat. As to the practice of using them as tools, it's no different than using a horse, dog or other animal to aid in hunts, or any other integral to that human or family reason, like with assistance dogs, or miniature horse, or when driving cattle or buffalo. As long as the birds are kept well in health, it probably makes them stronger than when on their own. When one needs, one must and all that. I know Mongolians still used horses and would have festivals with races, trick training, and music and rink and food with various tribes involved, so I'm not surprised to see them use raptor birds as well.

I am surprised it went after a fox, though, another predator. The meat isn't as easy to cure, cook or eat as with prey animals. I wonder if they another reason? Like if the fox had gone after a herd domesticated by humans? The video didn't say.

Eagles will totally kill and eat a fox. They'll take ungulates.

I had to look up ungulates. Great word. Thanks for the info!

 

[Valjean]

Eagle taking ungulate:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/24/eagle-attacks-deer_n_3982625.html

 

[DolphinDynasty]

Eagle taking ungulate:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/24/eagle-attacks-deer_n_3982625.html

That was an interesting read an vid. I've been fond of ravens, crows and gyre an perigree falcons for some time, an now I must add eagles to the list. Birds for all the flack they get are some f the most insightful to their environment and fitting themselves into it versus the human drive to mold the environment t s that the raptors become more fascinating for their adaptation.