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Berkeley "liberals" contra free speech

 
 
 
J842P said:
LordKiran said:
untermensche said:
That women represents herself and the very few, probably handful, who are with her.

We learn nothing from history if we let white supremacists openly recruit and spread their ignorance.

Strafgesetzbuch section 86a
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strafgesetzbuch_section_86a
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It's not really freedom if you aren't allowed to make your own decisions. At that point it's just a state allowance. I do think Milo is a problem who should be treated like the non-credible internet agitator he is, but the real problem is that we let people mislead each other, not that we let people come to their own conclusions and act on them.
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Milo is not "a problem." Milo is a second-rate rhetorician who has discovered that is easy to make the campus left look like fools. I'm sure untermensche will swoop in and say "these people don't represent the left", but he is simply an old man who doesn't realize that the world keep turning and these people do in fact represent a large proportion of the left. I wish it wasn't so, but it is.
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I've always been left liberal but I don't recognise my team anymore. Yes, it's a new generation. And I remember my generation criticising the one before us. But the push was always for more freedom and less restraints. Now it's the opposite. Today they're beating the fascists at their own game. I mean, today the people advocating the strongest for free speech, ie against political correctness is de facto fascists. That's opposite Tuesday. Makes no sense. My political compass is just spinning right now. I just want identity politics to die soon. There's got to be a blow back from this idiotic state of affairs, and we can go back to fighting what the left should be fighting for = more freedom for everybody.
 
Nice Squirrel said:
Funny thing, somebody brought up FIRE today in our Higher Ed Law class tonight and there was a collective groan.
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Views are not an issue because disparity and diversity are indicators of freedom of speech. The current movements are trying to shut down free speech and replaced it with collective diatribes. We saw this during the Cultural Revolution.

I take it by FIRE you mean Facts, Incidents, Reasons, Examples, and Statistics.. I think we are sometimes forced to substitute FACTS with Data.
We know when free speech is at risk or has expired when everyone shares a common view.
 
whichphilosophy said:
Nice Squirrel said:
Funny thing, somebody brought up FIRE today in our Higher Ed Law class tonight and there was a collective groan.
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Views are not an issue because disparity and diversity are indicators of freedom of speech. The current movements are trying to shut down free speech and replaced it with collective diatribes. We saw this during the Cultural Revolution.

I take it by FIRE you mean Facts, Incidents, Reasons, Examples, and Statistics.. I think we are sometimes forced to substitute FACTS with Data.
We know when free speech is at risk or has expired when everyone shares a common view.
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No, FIRE is the organization that you linked to above.
 
DrZoidberg said:
J842P said:
LordKiran said:
untermensche said:
That women represents herself and the very few, probably handful, who are with her.

We learn nothing from history if we let white supremacists openly recruit and spread their ignorance.

Strafgesetzbuch section 86a
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strafgesetzbuch_section_86a
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It's not really freedom if you aren't allowed to make your own decisions. At that point it's just a state allowance. I do think Milo is a problem who should be treated like the non-credible internet agitator he is, but the real problem is that we let people mislead each other, not that we let people come to their own conclusions and act on them.
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Milo is not "a problem." Milo is a second-rate rhetorician who has discovered that is easy to make the campus left look like fools. I'm sure untermensche will swoop in and say "these people don't represent the left", but he is simply an old man who doesn't realize that the world keep turning and these people do in fact represent a large proportion of the left. I wish it wasn't so, but it is.
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I've always been left liberal but I don't recognise my team anymore. Yes, it's a new generation. And I remember my generation criticising the one before us. But the push was always for more freedom and less restraints. Now it's the opposite. Today they're beating the fascists at their own game. I mean, today the people advocating the strongest for free speech, ie against political correctness is de facto fascists. That's opposite Tuesday. Makes no sense. My political compass is just spinning right now. I just want identity politics to die soon. There's got to be a blow back from this idiotic state of affairs, and we can go back to fighting what the left should be fighting for = more freedom for everybody.
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Well said. Agree completely. I like to hope it is like a pendulum that swings towards justice and fairness, and then pushes a little too far becoming the opposite, but will settle back in time.

These people mean well but become overzealous, and turn into what they set out to fight against, falling into many of the same thought patterns, bigotry, tribalism, censorship, etc. Fascists against fascism so to speak.
 
DrZoidberg said:
I've always been left liberal but I don't recognize my team anymore. Yes, it's a new generation. And I remember my generation criticising the one before us. But the push was always for more freedom and less restraints. Now it's the opposite.
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We do live in different times. What we are looking at is the alt-right taking advantage of in the United States:

  • Workers hit hard by the Great Recession.
  • A discredited left alternative.
  • Dissatisfaction with an inefficient democracy.
  • The end of consensus politics.
  • Racism provoked by job stealing immigrants, refugees, and political asylum seekers.
  • A respectable right party
  • Nostalgia for a strong state.
  • A compliant media and a major propaganda effort by the right.
*Adapted from Introducing Fascism: A Graphic Guide (2013)
https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-Fascism-Graphic-Stuart-Hood/dp/1848316127

So basically the playing field is different. There are plenty of people still wanting to argue rationally against the thinly veiled fascism of the alt-right. The alt-right isn't interested in a rational argument. They offer the same old arguments in new veiled packages. Here are a list of thing I hear regularly on these and other boards:

  • The family is being destroyed by feminism.
  • Men have been emasculated and are treated unfairly by feminism.
  • Women's primary roles is that of family caretaker.
  • The unions forced the companies to relocated the jobs to China.
  • The government is too large and there are too many regulations forcing companies to relocate to China.
  • Police are innately heroes and are fighting a war against drug addled super-predators (Blacks).
  • Minorities are leeches on the system and need to be forced off.
  • White people are to be bred out of existence.
  • Immigrants have stole all of the real American's jobs.
  • Campuses crush free speech (hate speech).
  • Colleges are part of a liberal conspiracy.
  • Racism is okay and based in sciencefact.

Now let's look a a checklist of common fascist groups and compare this to the alt-right in America:
Are their primary targets:

  • The left?
  • Democratic processes such as compromise and rule by consensus?
  • Unions?

Are they supported by:

  • the middle classes?
  • by disillusioned workers?

  • Do they appeal to youth?
  • Rely on support from the military and police?
  • Are they racist?
  • Extreme nationalists?
  • Funded by industry? (I have doubts about this one being included.)
  • Do they attempt to limit the role of women?
  • Are they hostile to homosexuality - transgender individuals?
  • Rely on a mass party? (Probably not in the USA)
  • Appeal to a mythical history?
  • Use terrorism against their opponents? (this one should get a reaction here.)
  • Enjoy the complicity of the authorities?
  • Exalt the leader?
*Adapted from Introducing Fascism: A Graphic Guide (2013)
https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-Fascism-Graphic-Stuart-Hood/dp/1848316127

So in the United States there is a real danger of devolving into a fascist state. The mental health of our president is in question and there is no doubt that Steve Bannon, a White Supremacist is pulling the strings. then we have this guy:

Steven Miller.
http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/joe-takes-stephen-miller-to-school-on-law-875977283878

Only one danger could have jeopardised this development – if our adversaries had understood its principle, established a clear understanding of our ideas, and not offered any resistance. Or, alternatively, if they had from the first day annihilated with the utmost brutality the nucleus of our new movement.

Neither was done. The times were such that our adversaries were no longer capable of accomplishing our annihilation, nor did they have the nerve. Arguably, they furthermore lacked the understanding to assume a wholly appropriate attitude."

- Adolph Hitler, Nuremberg Speech 1934​

Today they're beating the fascists at their own game. I mean, today the people advocating the strongest for free speech, ie against political correctness is de facto fascists. That's opposite Tuesday. Makes no sense. My political compass is just spinning right now. I just want identity politics to die soon. There's got to be a blow back from this idiotic state of affairs, and we can go back to fighting what the left should be fighting for = more freedom for everybody.
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Oh the left here is still fighting for everybody, but there is a clear and present danger of the United States being taken over by a right-wing fascist dictatorship. The tools that are being used to are a wide variety and some are anti-social. Are they effective or counter productive?

That is what we are discussing here.
 
Nice Squirrel said:
We do live in different times. What we are looking at is the alt-right taking advantage of in the United States:

  • Workers hit hard by the Great Recession.
  • A discredited left alternative.
  • Dissatisfaction with an inefficient democracy.
  • The end of consensus politics.
  • Racism provoked by job stealing immigrants, refugees, and political asylum seekers.
  • A respectable right party
  • Nostalgia for a strong state.
  • A compliant media and a major propaganda effort by the right.
*Adapted from Introducing Fascism: A Graphic Guide (2013)
https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-Fascism-Graphic-Stuart-Hood/dp/1848316127

So basically the playing field is different. There are plenty of people still wanting to argue rationally against the thinly veiled fascism of the alt-right. The alt-right isn't interested in a rational argument. They offer the same old arguments in new veiled packages. Here are a list of thing I hear regularly on these and other boards:

  • The family is being destroyed by feminism.
  • Men have been emasculated and are treated unfairly by feminism.
  • Women's primary roles is that of family caretaker.
  • The unions forced the companies to relocated the jobs to China.
  • The government is too large and there are too many regulations forcing companies to relocate to China.
  • Police are innately heroes and are fighting a war against drug addled super-predators (Blacks).
  • Minorities are leeches on the system and need to be forced off.
  • White people are to be bred out of existence.
  • Immigrants have stole all of the real American's jobs.
  • Campuses crush free speech (hate speech).
  • Colleges are part of a liberal conspiracy.
  • Racism is okay and based in sciencefact.

Now let's look a a checklist of common fascist groups and compare this to the alt-right in America:
Are their primary targets:

  • The left?
  • Democratic processes such as compromise and rule by consensus?
  • Unions?

Are they supported by:

  • the middle classes?
  • by disillusioned workers?

  • Do they appeal to youth?
  • Rely on support from the military and police?
  • Are they racist?
  • Extreme nationalists?
  • Funded by industry? (I have doubts about this one being included.)
  • Do they attempt to limit the role of women?
  • Are they hostile to homosexuality - transgender individuals?
  • Rely on a mass party? (Probably not in the USA)
  • Appeal to a mythical history?
  • Use terrorism against their opponents? (this one should get a reaction here.)
  • Enjoy the complicity of the authorities?
  • Exalt the leader?
*Adapted from Introducing Fascism: A Graphic Guide (2013)
https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-Fascism-Graphic-Stuart-Hood/dp/1848316127

So in the United States there is a real danger of devolving into a fascist state. The mental health of our president is in question and there is no doubt that Steve Bannon, a White Supremacist is pulling the strings. then we have this guy:

Steven Miller.
http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/joe-takes-stephen-miller-to-school-on-law-875977283878

Only one danger could have jeopardised this development – if our adversaries had understood its principle, established a clear understanding of our ideas, and not offered any resistance. Or, alternatively, if they had from the first day annihilated with the utmost brutality the nucleus of our new movement.

Neither was done. The times were such that our adversaries were no longer capable of accomplishing our annihilation, nor did they have the nerve. Arguably, they furthermore lacked the understanding to assume a wholly appropriate attitude."

- Adolph Hitler, Nuremberg Speech 1934​

Today they're beating the fascists at their own game. I mean, today the people advocating the strongest for free speech, ie against political correctness is de facto fascists. That's opposite Tuesday. Makes no sense. My political compass is just spinning right now. I just want identity politics to die soon. There's got to be a blow back from this idiotic state of affairs, and we can go back to fighting what the left should be fighting for = more freedom for everybody.
Click to expand...

Oh the left here is still fighting for everybody, but there is a clear and present danger of the United States being taken over by a right-wing fascist dictatorship. The tools that are being used to are a wide variety and some are anti-social. Are they effective or counter productive?

That is what we are discussing here.
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Campus's are suppressing Free speech calling it hate speech without demonstrating such.
 
whichphilosophy said:
Nice Squirrel said:
We do live in different times. What we are looking at is the alt-right taking advantage of in the United States:

  • Workers hit hard by the Great Recession.
  • A discredited left alternative.
  • Dissatisfaction with an inefficient democracy.
  • The end of consensus politics.
  • Racism provoked by job stealing immigrants, refugees, and political asylum seekers.
  • A respectable right party
  • Nostalgia for a strong state.
  • A compliant media and a major propaganda effort by the right.
*Adapted from Introducing Fascism: A Graphic Guide (2013)
https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-Fascism-Graphic-Stuart-Hood/dp/1848316127

So basically the playing field is different. There are plenty of people still wanting to argue rationally against the thinly veiled fascism of the alt-right. The alt-right isn't interested in a rational argument. They offer the same old arguments in new veiled packages. Here are a list of thing I hear regularly on these and other boards:

  • The family is being destroyed by feminism.
  • Men have been emasculated and are treated unfairly by feminism.
  • Women's primary roles is that of family caretaker.
  • The unions forced the companies to relocated the jobs to China.
  • The government is too large and there are too many regulations forcing companies to relocate to China.
  • Police are innately heroes and are fighting a war against drug addled super-predators (Blacks).
  • Minorities are leeches on the system and need to be forced off.
  • White people are to be bred out of existence.
  • Immigrants have stole all of the real American's jobs.
  • Campuses crush free speech (hate speech).
  • Colleges are part of a liberal conspiracy.
  • Racism is okay and based in sciencefact.

Now let's look a a checklist of common fascist groups and compare this to the alt-right in America:
Are their primary targets:

  • The left?
  • Democratic processes such as compromise and rule by consensus?
  • Unions?

Are they supported by:

  • the middle classes?
  • by disillusioned workers?

  • Do they appeal to youth?
  • Rely on support from the military and police?
  • Are they racist?
  • Extreme nationalists?
  • Funded by industry? (I have doubts about this one being included.)
  • Do they attempt to limit the role of women?
  • Are they hostile to homosexuality - transgender individuals?
  • Rely on a mass party? (Probably not in the USA)
  • Appeal to a mythical history?
  • Use terrorism against their opponents? (this one should get a reaction here.)
  • Enjoy the complicity of the authorities?
  • Exalt the leader?
*Adapted from Introducing Fascism: A Graphic Guide (2013)
https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-Fascism-Graphic-Stuart-Hood/dp/1848316127

So in the United States there is a real danger of devolving into a fascist state. The mental health of our president is in question and there is no doubt that Steve Bannon, a White Supremacist is pulling the strings. then we have this guy:

Steven Miller.
http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/joe-takes-stephen-miller-to-school-on-law-875977283878

Only one danger could have jeopardised this development – if our adversaries had understood its principle, established a clear understanding of our ideas, and not offered any resistance. Or, alternatively, if they had from the first day annihilated with the utmost brutality the nucleus of our new movement.

Neither was done. The times were such that our adversaries were no longer capable of accomplishing our annihilation, nor did they have the nerve. Arguably, they furthermore lacked the understanding to assume a wholly appropriate attitude."

- Adolph Hitler, Nuremberg Speech 1934​



Oh the left here is still fighting for everybody, but there is a clear and present danger of the United States being taken over by a right-wing fascist dictatorship. The tools that are being used to are a wide variety and some are anti-social. Are they effective or counter productive?

That is what we are discussing here.
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Campus's are suppressing Free speech calling it hate speech without demonstrating such.
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What was that you said about one-liners less than an hour ago?
 
I think that Scahill is one of the very top minds of journalism, he could have skewered Milo for all the fence sitters. He would not persuade Milo's followers, but winning over fence sitters would be useful.

It is a bad move. How is Milo so much worse than Coulter or Malkin? I am fairly certain that Scahill has been on with at least one of them.

I hope Bill Maher never has Scahill on again, despite the fact that he is a freakin' genius.

Liberals will continue to lose elections as long as they follow the example of people like Mr. Scahill whose views veer into fantasy and away from bedrock liberal principles like equality of women, respect for minorities, separation of religion and state, and free speech,” Maher said in a statement, according toEntertainment Weekly. “If Mr. Yiannopoulos is indeed the monster Scahill claims — and he might be — nothing could serve the liberal cause better than having him exposed on Friday night.
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Well, not gonna be surprised if Scahill doesn't come back on. Good riddance.
 
Nice Squirrel said:
whichphilosophy said:
Views are not an issue because disparity and diversity are indicators of freedom of speech. The current movements are trying to shut down free speech and replaced it with collective diatribes. We saw this during the Cultural Revolution.

I take it by FIRE you mean Facts, Incidents, Reasons, Examples, and Statistics.. I think we are sometimes forced to substitute FACTS with Data.
We know when free speech is at risk or has expired when everyone shares a common view.
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No, FIRE is the organization that you linked to above.
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No, that was posted by one of the other WPs that use that account.
 
It's very green of them at least.
 
whichphilosophy said:
blastula said:
No, that was posted by one of the other WPs that use that account.
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I only use one account.
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Nice Trumping job there. YOU only use one account. But, of course the comment was something entirely different... practically the opposite observation. How many OTHER people are using that account also?

Hint: this is where you are supposed to Trumpet, "So much fake posts from fake accounts. That's the real problem. Sad!".
OR, Con Way it, "Other people DO have accounts and post things that are important to the discussion".
 
You listed some stereo types given by the politically correct left wingers who claim those who disagree with them are fascists, homophobics, misogynistics, racists xenophobes, which are used to shut down any speeches, discussions and debates so that they ensure they retain dictatorial control of colleges, political movements and demonstrations.

• The family is being destroyed by feminism. IT DEPENDS WHAT FEMI-NAZIS SAY AND DO. FEMINISM ITSELF. BENEFITS THE FAMILY
• Men have been emasculated and are treated unfairly by feminism. IT DEPENDS WHAT FEMI-NAZIS SAY AND DO. FEMINISM ITSELF. BENEFITS THE FAMILY
• Women's primary roles is that of family caretaker. NOT ACCORDING TO MARGARET THATCHER. HOWEVER, THIS IS OKAY IF IT IS BY CHOICE.
• The unions forced the companies to relocated the jobs to China. I THINK US COMPANIES AND THE GOVERNMENT HELPED THIS. THE UNIONS WANT TO KEEP OUR JOBS.
• The government is too large and there are too many regulations forcing companies to relocate to China. I DON’T KNOW IF THIS HAPPENS TO BE AN OPINION LET US DEBATE IT.
• Police are innately heroes and are fighting a war against drug addled super-predators (Blacks). MANY ARE HEROES. DRUG PUSHING HAS NO COLOUR RESTRICTIONS. I DON’T KNOW THE STATISTICS. HOWEVER, IF THERE ARE STAST
• Minorities are leeches on the system and need to be forced off. SOME DO. MOST WORK.
• White people are to be bred out of existence. THIS IS POSSIBLY A FACT. FOR MONGRELS LIKE ME IT’S ALREADY TOO LATE
• Immigrants have stole all of the real American's jobs. I DON'T KNOW LET'S CHECK THE FACTS.
• Campuses crush free speech (hate speech). NO THEY ATTACK ANY SPEECH WHICH IS NOT SOCIALIST OR POLITICALLY CORRECT.
• Colleges are part of a liberal conspiracy. COLLEGES ARE EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTES BUT INCREASINGLY RUN BY LEFT WING FANATICS. LIBERALS NEED NOT BE LEFT WING
• Racism is okay and based in sciencefact. RACISM IS NEVER OKAY AND IS NOT SUPPORTED BY SCIENCE[ ONLY ULTRA EXTREMISTS THINK THERE ARE SUPERIOR RACES. /COLOR]

Extreme right wingers are small in number. Left wing extremists are also small in number but loud and very vocal.
Extreme left wingers will shut down freedom of speech by violent means if necessary. Their agenda is only people in their view-set may speak.
Non extremists will embrace free speech.
 
whichphilosophy said:
You listed some stereo types given by the politically correct left wingers who claim those who disagree with them are fascists, homophobics, misogynistics, racists xenophobes, which are used to shut down any speeches, discussions and debates so that they ensure they retain dictatorial control of colleges, political movements and demonstrations.

• The family is being destroyed by feminism. IT DEPENDS WHAT FEMI-NAZIS SAY AND DO. FEMINISM ITSELF. BENEFITS THE FAMILY
• Men have been emasculated and are treated unfairly by feminism. IT DEPENDS WHAT FEMI-NAZIS SAY AND DO. FEMINISM ITSELF. BENEFITS THE FAMILY
• Women's primary roles is that of family caretaker. NOT ACCORDING TO MARGARET THATCHER. HOWEVER, THIS IS OKAY IF IT IS BY CHOICE.
• The unions forced the companies to relocated the jobs to China. I THINK US COMPANIES AND THE GOVERNMENT HELPED THIS. THE UNIONS WANT TO KEEP OUR JOBS.
• The government is too large and there are too many regulations forcing companies to relocate to China. I DON’T KNOW IF THIS HAPPENS TO BE AN OPINION LET US DEBATE IT.
• Police are innately heroes and are fighting a war against drug addled super-predators (Blacks). MANY ARE HEROES. DRUG PUSHING HAS NO COLOUR RESTRICTIONS. I DON’T KNOW THE STATISTICS. HOWEVER, IF THERE ARE STAST
• Minorities are leeches on the system and need to be forced off. SOME DO. MOST WORK.
• White people are to be bred out of existence. THIS IS POSSIBLY A FACT. FOR MONGRELS LIKE ME IT’S ALREADY TOO LATE
• Immigrants have stole all of the real American's jobs. I DON'T KNOW LET'S CHECK THE FACTS.
• Campuses crush free speech (hate speech). NO THEY ATTACK ANY SPEECH WHICH IS NOT SOCIALIST OR POLITICALLY CORRECT.
• Colleges are part of a liberal conspiracy. COLLEGES ARE EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTES BUT INCREASINGLY RUN BY LEFT WING FANATICS. LIBERALS NEED NOT BE LEFT WING
• Racism is okay and based in sciencefact. RACISM IS NEVER OKAY AND IS NOT SUPPORTED BY SCIENCE[ ONLY ULTRA EXTREMISTS THINK THERE ARE SUPERIOR RACES. /COLOR]

Extreme right wingers are small in number. Left wing extremists are also small in number but loud and very vocal.
Extreme left wingers will shut down freedom of speech by violent means if necessary. Their agenda is only people in their view-set may speak.
Non extremists will embrace free speech.
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Like I said, you have proven my point.
 
Nice Squirrel said:
whichphilosophy said:
You listed some stereo types given by the politically correct left wingers who claim those who disagree with them are fascists, homophobics, misogynistics, racists xenophobes, which are used to shut down any speeches, discussions and debates so that they ensure they retain dictatorial control of colleges, political movements and demonstrations.

• The family is being destroyed by feminism. IT DEPENDS WHAT FEMI-NAZIS SAY AND DO. FEMINISM ITSELF. BENEFITS THE FAMILY
• Men have been emasculated and are treated unfairly by feminism. IT DEPENDS WHAT FEMI-NAZIS SAY AND DO. FEMINISM ITSELF. BENEFITS THE FAMILY
• Women's primary roles is that of family caretaker. NOT ACCORDING TO MARGARET THATCHER. HOWEVER, THIS IS OKAY IF IT IS BY CHOICE.
• The unions forced the companies to relocated the jobs to China. I THINK US COMPANIES AND THE GOVERNMENT HELPED THIS. THE UNIONS WANT TO KEEP OUR JOBS.
• The government is too large and there are too many regulations forcing companies to relocate to China. I DON’T KNOW IF THIS HAPPENS TO BE AN OPINION LET US DEBATE IT.
• Police are innately heroes and are fighting a war against drug addled super-predators (Blacks). MANY ARE HEROES. DRUG PUSHING HAS NO COLOUR RESTRICTIONS. I DON’T KNOW THE STATISTICS. HOWEVER, IF THERE ARE STAST
• Minorities are leeches on the system and need to be forced off. SOME DO. MOST WORK.
• White people are to be bred out of existence. THIS IS POSSIBLY A FACT. FOR MONGRELS LIKE ME IT’S ALREADY TOO LATE
• Immigrants have stole all of the real American's jobs. I DON'T KNOW LET'S CHECK THE FACTS.
• Campuses crush free speech (hate speech). NO THEY ATTACK ANY SPEECH WHICH IS NOT SOCIALIST OR POLITICALLY CORRECT.
• Colleges are part of a liberal conspiracy. COLLEGES ARE EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTES BUT INCREASINGLY RUN BY LEFT WING FANATICS. LIBERALS NEED NOT BE LEFT WING
• Racism is okay and based in sciencefact. RACISM IS NEVER OKAY AND IS NOT SUPPORTED BY SCIENCE[ ONLY ULTRA EXTREMISTS THINK THERE ARE SUPERIOR RACES. /COLOR]

Extreme right wingers are small in number. Left wing extremists are also small in number but loud and very vocal.
Extreme left wingers will shut down freedom of speech by violent means if necessary. Their agenda is only people in their view-set may speak.
Non extremists will embrace free speech.
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Like I said, you have proven my point.
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For example.
 
Malintent said:
whichphilosophy said:
I only use one account.
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Nice Trumping job there. YOU only use one account. But, of course the comment was something entirely different... practically the opposite observation. How many OTHER people are using that account also?

Hint: this is where you are supposed to Trumpet, "So much fake posts from fake accounts. That's the real problem. Sad!".
OR, Con Way it, "Other people DO have accounts and post things that are important to the discussion".
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Can you translate this for me. I only speak English and a little bit of Manderin and German
 
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