March for women. A message from Conservatives

[Rhea]

Speaking of the women's march, one of the chief organizers is an Islamist who supports Sharia law and Hamas.

Organizer For DC Women’s March, Linda Sarsour Is Pro Sharia Law with Ties To Hamas

And convicted kidnapper and murderer Donna Hylton.

You are confusing "organizer of logistics" with "reason people came out."

(predictably)

I have no idea who either of these women are. I have never heard either one speak. I had no hand in selecting or endorsing either one.
And you both know this is true of the VAST majority of marchers.
Which makes your critiques and implications utterly ridiculous.
You have no reason to think the marchers endorsed or even cared about those two women.
And you know that. Yet still you try to paint others' motives with your brush. We know why you do that. We can see how you think. It's not honorable.

I went to the march for MY reasons, as did the hundreds of thousands who joined me. And the millions worldwide.
We didn't go for Sarsour and Hylton.

But you knew that.

Nice try, but, no.

 

[whichphilosophy]

And convicted kidnapper and murderer Donna Hylton.

You are confusing "organizer of logistics" with "reason people came out."

(predictably)

I have no idea who either of these women are. I have never heard either one speak. I had no hand in selecting or endorsing either one.
And you both know this is true of the VAST majority of marchers.
Which makes your critiques and implications utterly ridiculous.
You have no reason to think the marchers endorsed or even cared about those two women.
And you know that. Yet still you try to paint others' motives with your brush. We know why you do that. We can see how you think. It's not honorable.

I went to the march for MY reasons, as did the hundreds of thousands who joined me. And the millions worldwide.
We didn't go for Sarsour and Hylton.

But you knew that.

Nice try, but, no.

In England the English Prostitutes Collective were one of the sponsors for the march. Nothing wrong with wanting to legalising prostitution in the UK but it's got nothing to do with the Trump. Then there is the 50:50 party who want a mandatory law for women have 50% of the seats in parliament.

I think people went there for different reasons but certainly nothing to do with promoting women's rights except on the issue of abortion. Even so the Muslims don't approve of abortion and they were there.

While there might be some good issues in the main it seems like an international quixotic offensive against perceived windmills.
I know most didn't go there for Hylton (kidnapping torture and murder) Madonna (dreaming of blowing up the Whitehouse), Hanoi Jane (ranting like the old days) but there again, such marches need upstanding pillars of morality as in Hylton to ensure the pot can claim the kettle is black.

 

[Rhea]

I think people went there for different reasons but certainly nothing to do with promoting women's rights except on the issue of abortion.

You use that word, "think." It doesn't mean what you think it means.


Instead of telling people why they went, you could ask the ones who went.
Rather than making up stories and pretending they mean anything.

 

[whichphilosophy]

I think people went there for different reasons but certainly nothing to do with promoting women's rights except on the issue of abortion.

You use that word, "think." It doesn't mean what you think it means.


Instead of telling people why they went, you could ask the ones who went.
Rather than making up stories and pretending they mean anything.

Some didn't know here in London but had a vague idea it was for womens rights, some are Marxists (Worker's Revolutionary Party), some because they followed the others who don't like Trump. I have no idea why the English Prostitutes collective or the 50:50 party would relate this to a US Election. This is why I said 'think.'


Why did you go?

 

[Angry Floof]

I think people went there for different reasons but certainly nothing to do with promoting women's rights except on the issue of abortion.

You use that word, "think." It doesn't mean what you think it means.


Instead of telling people why they went, you could ask the ones who went.
Rather than making up stories and pretending they mean anything.

It's all too muddled and confusing for wp, therefore the it's too muddled and confusing for anyone.

 

[Toni]

It would be nice if people could quit shaming women for what they think they should say, do and wear, regardless of risks they would take or consequences they would bear. Also regardless of the extent of which the shamers are actually informed about what women do and do not do.

If only men had the courage of their more secure and elevated position in society to actually quit oppressing women, minorities, non-white people, children, etc.

How about it, fellas?

Don't hold your breath.

Hold it for what? I changed my mind about the hat; it looks silly.

Hold her breath waiting for confused men to figure out that you don't decide what feminism is. You don't decide what women fight for or speak out about. Your opinion of women and women's issues is only relevant in that it contributes one more drop to the sea of ignorant, knee-jerk, programmed misogyny that makes the world such a welcoming, cozy place for predators and abusers.

Is that the hat you're wearing today, wp? Did you successfully complete a course on "handling" feminist SPs or is this just part of your personality to adopt whatever attitudes are suggested to men by our diseased society?

Heck, I would just settle for men become a bit better informed.

I think you didn't read what I said.

The Feminists and Muslim feminists exercised their legal rights to protest against Trump. However why aren't they protesting the treatment of women in the Middle East who are forced to wear the Nijab and the Hijab. They are cultural which extend before the Koran which does not mention these. They can in fact be described as dress codes prescribed by men for women to obey. Women are free to wear what men tell them to wear but should not be forced to do so or not to do so.

I've lived and worked in Arab societies such as Qatar, Abu Dhabi, and Dubai and interacted with Sudanese corporations, and Egyptians, Palestinians, Lebanese and Iraqis so have a slight idea of how their societies work. You will see that when the husband and wives leave these countries they don't wear the hijab. I only saw one case of a woman keeping this on in several years

While I'm on about it, the Muslim women have been working hand in hand with the LBGTs against real and imagined ills, so will they also support LBGT and women's rights in the Middle East?? Oooh no perish the thought.
What is the symbol? A woman wearing clothes required by men with the US flag on it.

Naw, I read what you wrote just fine. Hasn't changed your level of ignorance one bit.

Maybe you should be the one doing some reading.

But frankly, your ill informed, uninformed opinions aren't worth considering.

 

[Rhea]

You use that word, "think." It doesn't mean what you think it means.


Instead of telling people why they went, you could ask the ones who went.
Rather than making up stories and pretending they mean anything.

Some didn't know here in London but had a vague idea it was for womens rights, some are Marxists (Worker's Revolutionary Party), some because they followed the others who don't like Trump. I have no idea why the English Prostitutes collective or the 50:50 party would relate this to a US Election. This is why I said 'think.'


Why did you go?

You're saying you talked to people at the march and they didn't know why they went? Do you think perhaps they knew but you failed to receive the data in conversation? I ask this because I've had several people ask me why I went, and IMMEDIATELY after me telling them in clear concise language reasons A, B, C, D, E, F, G and H, they proclaim that Reason Q is stupid.

You _sure_ you're not one of those?

 

[Rhea]

Hold her breath waiting for confused men to figure out that you don't decide what feminism is. You don't decide what women fight for or speak out about. Your opinion of women and women's issues is only relevant in that it contributes one more drop to the sea of ignorant, knee-jerk, programmed misogyny that makes the world such a welcoming, cozy place for predators and abusers.

Heck, I would just settle for men become a bit better informed.

I think you didn't read what I said.

The Feminists and Muslim feminists exercised their legal rights to protest against Trump. However why aren't they protesting the treatment of women in the Middle East who are forced to wear the Nijab and the Hijab.
.

Because I have more immediate fish to fry than religions harming their own people. I know several hijab-wearing American women. I dislike the hijab pretty strongly. But for some reason, they don't. I don't get it. Not my cause.

Also, LOL at you replying to a post saying you don't get to decide what we speak out about with, "why aren't you speaking out how I want you to?"

edited to add: I also dislike the yarmulke, the mantilla, the whipple and the Amish cap.

 

[LordKiran]

Hold her breath waiting for confused men to figure out that you don't decide what feminism is. You don't decide what women fight for or speak out about. Your opinion of women and women's issues is only relevant in that it contributes one more drop to the sea of ignorant, knee-jerk, programmed misogyny that makes the world such a welcoming, cozy place for predators and abusers.

Heck, I would just settle for men become a bit better informed.

I think you didn't read what I said.

The Feminists and Muslim feminists exercised their legal rights to protest against Trump. However why aren't they protesting the treatment of women in the Middle East who are forced to wear the Nijab and the Hijab.
.

Because I have more immediate fish to fry than religions harming their own people. I know several hijab-wearing American women. I dislike the hijab pretty strongly. But for some reason, they don't. I don't get it. Not my cause.

Also, LOL at you replying to a post saying you don't get to decide what we speak out about with, "why aren't you speaking out how I want you to?"

edited to add: I also dislike the yarmulke, the mantilla, the whipple and the Amish cap.

Do you also hate the Wobblefizz, the Narglesnarp, and bushkadushki?

 

[Shadowy Man]

And convicted kidnapper and murderer Donna Hylton.

You are confusing "organizer of logistics" with "reason people came out."

(predictably)

I have no idea who either of these women are. I have never heard either one speak. I had no hand in selecting or endorsing either one.
And you both know this is true of the VAST majority of marchers.
Which makes your critiques and implications utterly ridiculous.
You have no reason to think the marchers endorsed or even cared about those two women.
And you know that. Yet still you try to paint others' motives with your brush. We know why you do that. We can see how you think. It's not honorable.

I went to the march for MY reasons, as did the hundreds of thousands who joined me. And the millions worldwide.
We didn't go for Sarsour and Hylton.

But you knew that.

Nice try, but, no.

It's just more typical right wing hypocrisy. They cried foul when people tried to call them all racists because the KKK endorsed Trump. Same logic.

 

[TSwizzle]

And convicted kidnapper and murderer Donna Hylton.

I went to the march for MY reasons, as did the hundreds of thousands who joined me. And the millions worldwide.

Keep tilting at windmills in your cute hats.

 

[Rhea]

I dislike the hijab pretty strongly. But for some reason, they don't. I don't get it. Not my cause.

edited to add: I also dislike the yarmulke, the mantilla, the whipple and the Amish cap.

Do you also hate the Wobblefizz, the Narglesnarp, and bushkadushki?

If they are garments required so as to claim piety or modesty, then yah.

 

[blastula]

They mean it as a message of inclusion and solidarity. It's out of good intentions, but it's complicated. There are Muslim women and ex-Muslim women who see the hijab as an object of oppression and are offended by promoting it as a norm. I wish people would stop using it and instead try to highlight Muslim women who don't cover up.

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Feminists are against enforcing the Hijab. They believe women have the right to choose to wear headscarves or not.

C'mon, guys, it's not that hard to understand.

If only feminists had the courage of their supposed convictions.

Says the pussy grabbing apologist.

The simplicity is women have the right to choose whether or not they wear a headscarf. There's nothing specifically mentioned in the Koran on this.

Anotehr patented WP non sequitur.

Women should have the right to wear what they want, but they don't in reality. Your theologizing about what the Koran says is irrelevant to how Muslims practice their religion.

 

[whichphilosophy]

They mean it as a message of inclusion and solidarity. It's out of good intentions, but it's complicated. There are Muslim women and ex-Muslim women who see the hijab as an object of oppression and are offended by promoting it as a norm. I wish people would stop using it and instead try to highlight Muslim women who don't cover up.

- - - Updated - - -

Feminists are against enforcing the Hijab. They believe women have the right to choose to wear headscarves or not.

C'mon, guys, it's not that hard to understand.

If only feminists had the courage of their supposed convictions.

Says the pussy grabbing apologist.

The simplicity is women have the right to choose whether or not they wear a headscarf. There's nothing specifically mentioned in the Koran on this.

Anotehr patented WP non sequitur.

Women should have the right to wear what they want, but they don't in reality. Your theologizing about what the Koran says is irrelevant to how Muslims practice their religion.

It's not in the Koran so it is simply what men tell women to wear. People can wear what they want, but many Muslim women are not free to make this choice. They should be. So women claiming this is a religious issue are confusing this with a culture which predates Islam.

 

[Rhea]

I went to the march for MY reasons, as did the hundreds of thousands who joined me. And the millions worldwide.

Keep tilting at windmills in your cute hats.

What issue do you think represents a firey dragon in my imagination but is actually just a windmill because I'm deluded?
Why do you think I was one of the hat-wearers?

Not that there's anything wrong with the hats. I loved the neighbors who said, I can't go, but I want to knit you a hat so I can support you. That was incredibly sweet. And it was fun to see a theme of color over the group. I'd guess it was 1-in-4 or less wearing them. But it was neat to see.

 

[whichphilosophy]

Some didn't know here in London but had a vague idea it was for womens rights, some are Marxists (Worker's Revolutionary Party), some because they followed the others who don't like Trump. I have no idea why the English Prostitutes collective or the 50:50 party would relate this to a US Election. This is why I said 'think.'


Why did you go?

You're saying you talked to people at the march and they didn't know why they went? Do you think perhaps they knew but you failed to receive the data in conversation? I ask this because I've had several people ask me why I went, and IMMEDIATELY after me telling them in clear concise language reasons A, B, C, D, E, F, G and H, they proclaim that Reason Q is stupid.

You _sure_ you're not one of those?

Just ask them why they went. You haven't said why you went yet.
I would agree with a person's statement why they went and that is up to them. I couldn't say Q as I'm not telepathic.

 

[whichphilosophy]

Keep tilting at windmills in your cute hats.

What issue do you think represents a firey dragon in my imagination but is actually just a windmill because I'm deluded?
Why do you think I was one of the hat-wearers?

Not that there's anything wrong with the hats. I loved the neighbors who said, I can't go, but I want to knit you a hat so I can support you. That was incredibly sweet. And it was fun to see a theme of color over the group. I'd guess it was 1-in-4 or less wearing them. But it was neat to see.

I believe history may see the Pink Hat as the first major US rebellion against the winner of a democratic election.

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You use that word, "think." It doesn't mean what you think it means.


Instead of telling people why they went, you could ask the ones who went.
Rather than making up stories and pretending they mean anything.

It's all too muddled and confusing for wp, therefore the it's too muddled and confusing for anyone.

The answer didn't really relate to my point.

 

[whichphilosophy]

It would be nice if people could quit shaming women for what they think they should say, do and wear, regardless of risks they would take or consequences they would bear. Also regardless of the extent of which the shamers are actually informed about what women do and do not do.

If only men had the courage of their more secure and elevated position in society to actually quit oppressing women, minorities, non-white people, children, etc.

How about it, fellas?

Don't hold your breath.

Hold it for what? I changed my mind about the hat; it looks silly.

Hold her breath waiting for confused men to figure out that you don't decide what feminism is. You don't decide what women fight for or speak out about. Your opinion of women and women's issues is only relevant in that it contributes one more drop to the sea of ignorant, knee-jerk, programmed misogyny that makes the world such a welcoming, cozy place for predators and abusers.

Is that the hat you're wearing today, wp? Did you successfully complete a course on "handling" feminist SPs or is this just part of your personality to adopt whatever attitudes are suggested to men by our diseased society?

Heck, I would just settle for men become a bit better informed.

I think you didn't read what I said.

The Feminists and Muslim feminists exercised their legal rights to protest against Trump. However why aren't they protesting the treatment of women in the Middle East who are forced to wear the Nijab and the Hijab. They are cultural which extend before the Koran which does not mention these. They can in fact be described as dress codes prescribed by men for women to obey. Women are free to wear what men tell them to wear but should not be forced to do so or not to do so.

I've lived and worked in Arab societies such as Qatar, Abu Dhabi, and Dubai and interacted with Sudanese corporations, and Egyptians, Palestinians, Lebanese and Iraqis so have a slight idea of how their societies work. You will see that when the husband and wives leave these countries they don't wear the hijab. I only saw one case of a woman keeping this on in several years

While I'm on about it, the Muslim women have been working hand in hand with the LBGTs against real and imagined ills, so will they also support LBGT and women's rights in the Middle East?? Oooh no perish the thought.
What is the symbol? A woman wearing clothes required by men with the US flag on it.

Naw, I read what you wrote just fine. Hasn't changed your level of ignorance one bit.

Maybe you should be the one doing some reading.

But frankly, your ill informed, uninformed opinions aren't worth considering.

I think my point is very relevant. Muslim women sometimes face bias but overall they are treated better in the US than at home (The exception are those born in the USA or came very young because the US is what they know)

 

[TSwizzle]

Keep tilting at windmills in your cute hats.

Not that there's anything wrong with the hats. I loved the neighbors who said, I can't go, but I want to knit you a hat so I can support you. That was incredibly sweet. And it was fun to see a theme of color over the group. I'd guess it was 1-in-4 or less wearing them. But it was neat to see.

The pink hats looked twee to me but whatever floats your boat.

 

[whichphilosophy]

Not that there's anything wrong with the hats. I loved the neighbors who said, I can't go, but I want to knit you a hat so I can support you. That was incredibly sweet. And it was fun to see a theme of color over the group. I'd guess it was 1-in-4 or less wearing them. But it was neat to see.

The pink hats looked twee to me but whatever floats your boat.

Pink is the new tin foil. Maybe this could be called Pink Foil.