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Another Fucking Mass Shooting At US School

That was rhetorical, right?
It raises the point that the data is irrefutable. The ease of getting guns correlates positively with gun deaths.

Also, most illegally obtained fire arms originate from the legal market, whether through straw purchases, theft, or private sales. That’s the part gun nuts don’t like to talk about.
 
That was rhetorical, right?
It raises the point that the data is irrefutable. The ease of getting guns correlates positively with gun deaths.

Also, most illegally obtained fire arms originate from the legal market, whether through straw purchases, theft, or private sales. That’s the part gun nuts don’t like to talk about.
I suspect that soon, gun nuts will be talking all about that, to distract from the ease of obtaining “kit” guns or 3D printing them.
There will be no putting the gun genie back in the bottle. All that can be done now, is to raise penalties and cultivate societal stigma around them to discourage their pointless proliferation.
 
It is being reported he was at the VA seeking mental health care.
article said:
Shamar Elkins, 31, who served in the Louisiana Army National Guard, visited the local Veterans Affairs hospital for a mental health evaluation, stayed there for a week and a half and was released, said Crystal Brown-Page, a cousin of Elkins’s brother-in-law, Troy Brown.

Elkins’s wife, Shaneiqua Pugh, told him she was seeking a divorce, and they were due to appear in court Monday, Brown-Page said.
Time for those people to talk about the need for "mental health care"... before walking away never to discuss it again until the next mass murder.

Fuck, it is harder to log into my utility account to pay my electric bill than to get a gun.
 
Fuck, it is harder to log into my utility account to pay my electric bill than to get a gun.
You think that's hard, try getting a discount insurance agency to pay for regular therapy.
Funny you say that... but ignore the discount part. On plan was copay, now new plan is out-of-pocket till deductible and then 20%.
 
Fuck, it is harder to log into my utility account to pay my electric bill than to get a gun.
You think that's hard, try getting a discount insurance agency to pay for regular therapy.
Funny you say that... but ignore the discount part. On plan was copay, now new plan is out-of-pocket till deductible and then 20%.
No way around it. I pay premiums and deductibles ad nauseum. I “invested” in what was a deal where you pay those amounts and then the sky (or 2 million or something) is the limit. But the premiums and deductibles go up, and now that my wife is a big consumer (now in extended care/assisted living), all kinds of walls go up.
It seems designed to ensure that patients with big needs don’t live long.
 
That was rhetorical, right?
It raises the point that the data is irrefutable. The ease of getting guns correlates positively with gun deaths.

Also, most illegally obtained fire arms originate from the legal market, whether through straw purchases, theft, or private sales. That’s the part gun nuts don’t like to talk about.
When my father passed away, we discovered that he had been carrying what we were certain was an unregistered ( ie illegal) handgun in his truck. Being an extremely law and order type of guy, that was pretty …interesting. He grew up hunting and was extremely skilled with a shotgun or a rifle, so his interest in firearms was always there. Mostly we were curious about how he came to be in possession of such an item, given that it wasn’t legal. I was also concerned because he had been in declining health for a while which both explained why he thought he might ‘need’ such a thing and horrified at the potential for serious harm to someone. Before his health had gotten really bad, he took long trips pulling a fifth wheel so maybe he was worried about being victimized?

My firmer brother in law tossed it into a nearby lake. At least I hope he did.
 

My firmer brother in law tossed it into a nearby lake. At least I hope he did.
Some magnet fisherman will be thrilled.
I have this vision of him throwing the gun out into the lake, where it lands with a "thunk" on a pile of handguns that have filled the lake, so that only a quarter of an inch of water remains...
 

My firmer brother in law tossed it into a nearby lake. At least I hope he did.
Some magnet fisherman will be thrilled.
I have this vision of him throwing the gun out into the lake, where it lands with a "thunk" on a pile of handguns that have filled the lake, so that only a quarter of an inch of water remains...
You don’t want to run over that with your outboard!
 
It is being reported he was at the VA seeking mental health care.
Time for those people to talk about the need for "mental health care"... before walking away never to discuss it again until the next mass murder.
What do you mean? He was receiving mental health care. What this shows is that mental health issues are difficult to handle, and just having access is often not enough.
Fuck, it is harder to log into my utility account to pay my electric bill than to get a gun.
Unless you really suck at logging in into online accounts, that is most certainly false.
 
How did he get his gun(s)?
That was rhetorical, right?
Not really. He had a previous conviction. So, either he got the gun(s) illegally, or there was an oversight from the state.

One thing is certain: that firearm, no matter how many hands it passed through, ultimately traces back to a legal point of origin.

Edit: Let’s stop pussyfooting around this. As long as firearms are being manufactured and remain legal, there’s no realistic way to keep them entirely out of criminal hands. If you’re comfortable with them being legal, then you’re also accepting the reality that some will end up in the wrong hands. The two go hand in hand.
 
How did he get his gun(s)?
That was rhetorical, right?
Not really. He had a previous conviction. So, either he got the gun(s) illegally, or there was an oversight from the state.

One thing is certain: that firearm, no matter how many hands it passed through, ultimately traces back to a legal point of origin.

Edit: Let’s stop pussyfooting around this. As long as firearms are being manufactured and remain legal, there’s no realistic way to keep them entirely out of criminal hands. If you’re comfortable with them being legal, then you’re also accepting the reality that some will end up in the wrong hands. The two go hand in hand.
No you see the guns just magically appear out of thin air.
 
It is being reported he was at the VA seeking mental health care.
Time for those people to talk about the need for "mental health care"... before walking away never to discuss it again until the next mass murder.
What do you mean? He was receiving mental health care. What this shows is that mental health issues are difficult to handle, and just having access is often not enough.
Fuck, it is harder to log into my utility account to pay my electric bill than to get a gun.
Unless you really suck at logging in into online accounts, that is most certainly false.
I need to know my username and password (typical). And then I need to own a cell phone, have it on me, to receive a text message code to get into my account.

You can just get a weapon on the street. It isn't legal, but so isn't murder.
 
It is being reported he was at the VA seeking mental health care.
Time for those people to talk about the need for "mental health care"... before walking away never to discuss it again until the next mass murder.
What do you mean? He was receiving mental health care. What this shows is that mental health issues are difficult to handle, and just having access is often not enough.
Fuck, it is harder to log into my utility account to pay my electric bill than to get a gun.
Unless you really suck at logging in into online accounts, that is most certainly false.
I need to know my username and password (typical). And then I need to own a cell phone, have it on me, to receive a text message code to get into my account.

You can just get a weapon on the street. It isn't legal, but so isn't murder.
I get Derec's ironic point. After all, it is people like Derec and the NRA because they support maniacal SCOTUS decisions that expand 2nd amendment rights which make easy to legally obtain a fire arms and fight against reasonable Constitutional restrictions.
 
It is being reported he was at the VA seeking mental health care.
Time for those people to talk about the need for "mental health care"... before walking away never to discuss it again until the next mass murder.
What do you mean? He was receiving mental health care. What this shows is that mental health issues are difficult to handle, and just having access is often not enough.
Fuck, it is harder to log into my utility account to pay my electric bill than to get a gun.
Unless you really suck at logging in into online accounts, that is most certainly false.
I need to know my username and password (typical). And then I need to own a cell phone, have it on me, to receive a text message code to get into my account.

You can just get a weapon on the street. It isn't legal, but so isn't murder.
That is the standard process these days to get into just about any online account. Yes, its annoying, but as someone who was recently the subject of a personal data breach, that texting a numberical code thing was the only thing that kept thieves from breaking into multiple accounts. Can't you set up your account to do an auto-pay every month? I've been doing that with all my bills for 25 to 30 years now.
 
It is being reported he was at the VA seeking mental health care.
Time for those people to talk about the need for "mental health care"... before walking away never to discuss it again until the next mass murder.
What do you mean? He was receiving mental health care. What this shows is that mental health issues are difficult to handle, and just having access is often not enough.
Fuck, it is harder to log into my utility account to pay my electric bill than to get a gun.
Unless you really suck at logging in into online accounts, that is most certainly false.
I need to know my username and password (typical). And then I need to own a cell phone, have it on me, to receive a text message code to get into my account.

You can just get a weapon on the street. It isn't legal, but so isn't murder.
That is the standard process these days to get into just about any online account. Yes, its annoying, but as someone who was recently the subject of a personal data breach, that texting a numberical code thing was the only thing that kept thieves from breaking into multiple accounts. Can't you set up your account to do an auto-pay every month? I've been doing that with all my bills for 25 to 30 years now.
If a thieve would like to pay my utility bill, I'm okay with that. I'm less okay with easy access to firearms, like the one that murdered 8 children.
 
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