Marxism

[No Robots]

^With Marx, the political is sharply distinguished from the social. The former is a distortion of the latter. The distortion is the result of dualism, ie. class division. Once class division is overcome, decision-making loses its oppressive, ie. political, aspect, and becomes truly social.

 

[Politesse]

The ext night a bug crawls on the capitalist who says ‘Wake up everybody, anyone want to buy a bug?'

He's a right moron, isn't he? What's he going to do with the money?

As usual you lack ability to comprehend the 'joke'. You look at it through a rigid inflexible ideology.

A human response would be to laugh ...

Are you fucking serious? You're denying my humanity? Because I made a joke you didn't get? Fuck you, man.

 

[No Robots]

The ext night a bug crawls on the capitalist who says ‘Wake up everybody, anyone want to buy a bug?'

He's a right moron, isn't he? What's he going to do with the money?

As usual you lack ability to comprehend the 'joke'. You look at it through a rigid inflexible ideology.

A human response would be to laugh ...

I'm with you on this. There is a bullying atmosphere around here that seeks to stamp out attempts to connect with adversaries. through humour. I've even been taken to task for making jokes at your expense, Steve.

 

[No Robots]

The ext night a bug crawls on the capitalist who says ‘Wake up everybody, anyone want to buy a bug?'

He's a right moron, isn't he? What's he going to do with the money?

As usual you lack ability to comprehend the 'joke'. You look at it through a rigid inflexible ideology.

A human response would be to laugh ...

Are you fucking serious? You're denying my humanity? Because I made a joke you didn't get? Fuck you, man.

Steve thinks that humour is only generated from within his own bug.

 

[steve_bank]

^With Marx, the political is sharply distinguished from the social. The former is a distortion of the latter. The distortion is the result of dualism, ie. class division. Once class division is overcome, decision-making loses its oppressive, ie. political, aspect, and becomes truly social.

Marxism is a fart. It hung around smelling bad for a while, now it is gone with the wind.

Marxist diehards spout an endless stream of Marxist terms and cliches, but offer no practical solution to problems.

A more recent example is Venezuela.

Their ecommy and the middle class(bourgeoisie) were destroyed. Foreign assets nationalized. Oil revues were spent on large scale unsupportable social programs.

In Marxist terminology, the "middle class" is not a monolithic group but typically refers to the
petit bourgeoisie, which includes small business owners and professionals who own some means of production, and the salaried middle-management. While Marx saw the bourgeoisie as the capitalist class and the proletariat as the working class, he viewed the petit bourgeoisie as a transitional and often counter-revolutionary force that stood between these two main classes.

Venezuela is considered to be broke due to a severe economic crisis characterized by hyperinflation, widespread poverty, and shortages of essential goods like food and medicine. Despite having the world's largest oil reserves, a combination of factors including corruption, mismanagement, and over-reliance on oil has led to a drastic decline in its GDP and living standards.

Venzuela is why our conservatives are so anti communist and socialist. Nationalization of the economy leading to economic failure. Russian communism, Chinese communism and now Venezuelan dictatorship and economic failure..

Venezuela has a largely nationalized economy, characterized by extensive government control over key sectors like oil, and many other industries have been nationalized over the past few decades
. This has resulted in a command economy where the state directs the production and distribution of goods, although a private sector still exists, notes globalEDGE and Fox News.

If you a pay attention to current events there was the infamous toiiet paper shortage.

Venezuela's toilet paper shortage, which occurred in the early 2010s, was
a symptom of a wider economic crisis, including hyperinflation and price controls that discouraged local production and import reliance. Causes cited include government policies like price controls that made it unprofitable for companies to produce goods, overspending on imports, and a failure to manage the economy effectively, which led to severe shortages of various essential items, not just toilet paper.

China wet from communism and a nationalized economy to a private sector which fueled its rise to a modern state.

Empirical observation trups theory and ideolgy.

 

[steve_bank]

Fucking dead serious Politesse.

 

[steve_bank]

The ext night a bug crawls on the capitalist who says ‘Wake up everybody, anyone want to buy a bug?'

He's a right moron, isn't he? What's he going to do with the money?

As usual you lack ability to comprehend the 'joke'. You look at it through a rigid inflexible ideology.

A human response would be to laugh ...

I'm with you on this. There is a bullying atmosphere around here that seeks to stamp out attempts to connect with adversaries. through humour. I've even been taken to task for making jokes at your expense, Steve.

You are a trip.

 

[steve_bank]

Quoting Marx and claiming the world is becoming Jewish-Marxist does not solve problems. Applied Marxism did not solve problems.


Come out to the real world NR. Look at the last 200 years and current events.

Diehard Marxists live in a fantasy reality. As to your authort's Jewish-Marxist and the bible, you do relaize Marx was raised Catholic I believe and turned atheist.

 

[No Robots]

Quoting Marx and claiming the world is becoming Jewish-Marxist does not solve problems. Applied Marxism did not solve problems.


Come out to the real world NR. Look at the last 200 years and current events.

Diehard Marxists live in a fantasy reality. As to your authort's Jewish-Marxist and the bible, you do relaize Marx was raised Catholic I believe and turned atheist.

The past two hundred years have seen a flight from reason. Why? Because reason leads inevitably to Judaism and Marxism.

Marx's father converted to Catholicism, as did many German Jews, in order to advance his career. The Jewish mind is impervious to such pragmatic initiatives.

Marx's essential Jewishness is not in doubt. Here is how one writer described it recently:

In crying for the poor, the oppressed and the disenfranchised, Marx picked up from where the prophets left off, as thousands of other Jews would later do, disproportionately represented among Russian, Polish, Hungarian, Czech, and Romanian revolutionaries; the Spanish Civil War’s foreign volunteers; South Africa’s anti-apartheid strugglers; and America’s civil rights, antiwar, and feminist crusaders.... Marx would protest this dialecticism, but if the apostate who wrote prophecy, demanded justice, scolded the rich, electrified the masses, lived in poverty, and died in exile was not a Jew – who is?

Marx is one of the great voices of Judaism. Many of Judaism's greatest voices were renegades from orthodoxy, Jesus and Spinoza, for example. Marxism is the full maturation of Judaism, its development into a full and explicit universalism.

 

[Politesse]

Fucking dead serious Politesse.

Then fuck you. I am a human, and if your sense of "humor" leads you to think its funny to call me less than human, that's bullying, not a joke, and I'm done with you.

 

[steve_bank]

Venezuela shoulod be a cautionary tale to our progressives.

California economy is usually ranked in the top 5 globally yet is chronically in a financial crisis.

Why is that? Couldd it be progressive ideological polices?

businesses are leaving California, with
2022 and 2023 showing a net out-migration of 741 and 533 companies, respectively. Key reasons cited include high taxes, extensive regulations, and costs, though the state remains a hub for innovation and has a high number of corporate headquarters moving out compared to other states. Notable examples include Tesla, Oracle, and Hewlett Packard Enterprise, which have all relocated their headquarters to other states, often citing a better business environment, like the lower costs and regulatory flexibility in Texas.

Similar is reported here in Washington, business migration elsewhere.

Politesse. What are your political views. You claimed China’s rise to economic power is due to collectivization.

Do you think the USA should be collectivized?.

What do you think of Marxism and communism. Good ideas? Would it work in the USA?

 

[bilby]

A complex modern system can not work without some form of hierarchical structures.

That's a nice belief you have there.

Do you have any reason to think it's true?

Obviously some sort of structure is needed; But need it be heirarchical? Why?

 

[Spacetime Inhabitant]

Venezuela shoulod be a cautionary tale to our progressives.

California economy is usually ranked in the top 5 globally yet is chronically in a financial crisis.

Why is that? Couldd it be progressive ideological polices?

businesses are leaving California, with
2022 and 2023 showing a net out-migration of 741 and 533 companies, respectively. Key reasons cited include high taxes, extensive regulations, and costs, though the state remains a hub for innovation and has a high number of corporate headquarters moving out compared to other states. Notable examples include Tesla, Oracle, and Hewlett Packard Enterprise, which have all relocated their headquarters to other states, often citing a better business environment, like the lower costs and regulatory flexibility in Texas.

Similar is reported here in Washington, business migration elsewhere.

Politesse. What are your political views. You claimed China’s rise to economic power is due to collectivization.

Do you think the USA should be collectivized?.

What do you think of Marxism and communism. Good ideas? Would it work in the USA?

The USA is collectivized. It has a form of communo-fascism. Free thought is crushed in the USA, only the fascistic status quo is considered valid in its general society. MAGA is like an ant colony, presided over by a Queen (King), but it is only one of the aspects of the manifestation of anti-individualism in the USA. Other nations have this manifestation in a diluted form, so they aren't near perfect either.

 

[Bomb#20]

The past two hundred years have seen a flight from reason. Why? Because reason leads inevitably to Judaism and Marxism.

Marx's father converted to Catholicism, as did many German Jews, in order to advance his career. The Jewish mind is impervious to such pragmatic initiatives.

Marx's essential Jewishness is not in doubt. Here is how one writer described it recently:
...
Marx is one of the great voices of Judaism. Many of Judaism's greatest voices were renegades from orthodoxy, Jesus and Spinoza, for example. Marxism is the full maturation of Judaism, its development into a full and explicit universalism.

"Let us consider the actual, worldly Jew – not the Sabbath Jew, as Bauer does, but the everyday Jew.

Let us not look for the secret of the Jew in his religion, but let us look for the secret of his religion in the real Jew.

What is the secular basis of Judaism? Practical need, self-interest. What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money.

Very well then! Emancipation from huckstering and money, consequently from practical, real Judaism, would be the self-emancipation of our time.

An organization of society which would abolish the preconditions for huckstering, and therefore the possibility of huckstering, would make the Jew impossible."

- Karl Marx

 

[Bomb#20]

The past two hundred years have seen a flight from reason. Why? Because reason leads inevitably to Judaism and Marxism.

Judaism and Marxism are religions. They're based on faith. Reason does not lead to faith-based initiatives.

But that aside, Judaism and Marxism are conflicting religions. If reason somehow did lead inevitably to either one, that would inevitably preclude it from leading to the other.