The Big Ugly Bill

[Jarhyn]

As an aside, hopefully this bill once and for all destroys and annihilates the meme that republicans are prudent financial manages carefully protecting our financial future by reducing the deficit! Sorry for that long-tortured sentence, but I've been hearing that BS for 40 years.

I totally agree with Musk. We don't have a Democrat or Republican party, we have one big uniparty called the "Porky Pig Party".

Musk has fraud glasses on. Everything he sees that he doesn't understand is fraud and/or waste. But he doesn't understand anything complex.

And he was stupid enough to think that an AI can sniff out fraud/waste.

Strangely, AI can sniff out fraud and waste. Just not the AI he is using in the way he is using it.

If you train AI using examples of known and observed book irregularities, to form a descriptor "book irregularity", and then send a large number of books, a well configured AI will be able to adequately some spot book irregularities to be chased down.

That's not what he's doing.

 

[Elixir]

And I can't even find Sec. 44125 at all.

Then it must not be true? Try harder.

“Section 44125 of the “One Big Beautiful Bill” prohibits federal payment under Medicaid or CHIP for specified gender transition procedures. These procedures are defined as those intended to change an individual’s body so it no longer corresponds to their biological sex, including certain surgeries, implants, and medications such as hormones”

The concern level of 44125 is about a 0.5 on a ten- scale for me, but it might be an eleven for some people.

 

[Jarhyn]

It's also concerning that they are ending oversight over ICE deaths in camps.

This is looking very death-camp shaped and now they're talking about ending protections for citizens and outright attacking LA and New York with a military action/occupation.

This. Is. Nazi. Shit.

Everything in this bill is Nazi shit.

My own grandparents had some really good advice about what to do about that.

Every American, every citizen of the earth, has every obligation to subvert, stop, disempower, disobey, and obstruct, and eliminate all legacy of this regime by whatever means you have available, as much as you believed the people of Nazi Germany had an obligation to not support Hitler, when you learned about Hitler.

 

[Swammerdami]

The group seemed to be a venue primarily for ordinary Americans rather than elite commentators.

Yeah, astroturfing is endemic, particularly on Facebook. It was doubtless intended to seem to be that. Whether it actually was that is a mystery nobody can penetrate.

We know that creating misleading "fakish" content to push a right-wing or fascist agenda is a common ploy, both by Putin's minions and by techno nerds in the Trump-Putin axis.

But from my vantage point fakish content by America's left is less rampant, and less professional (and thus less likely to be effective). I'd be interested in seeing evidence to the contrary.

And the particular Facebook group I linked to seemed quite amateurish to me; and likely to be the work of sincere "grassroot" people. We'd get stuck even deeper in a useless rabbit-hole to babble in generalities about this claim. But one MIGHT argue that the very use of emoticons that were deprecated here, argue against professional "astroturfing."

 

[thebeave]

And I can't even find Sec. 44125 at all.

Then it must not be true? Try harder.

“Section 44125 of the “One Big Beautiful Bill” prohibits federal payment under Medicaid or CHIP for specified gender transition procedures. These procedures are defined as those intended to change an individual’s body so it no longer corresponds to their biological sex, including certain surgeries, implants, and medications such as hormones”

The concern level of 44125 is about a 0.5 on a ten- scale for me, but it might be an eleven for some people.

Enlighten me, then. I can't find that section in the BBB link you provided. I'm wondering if I'm losing my mind...

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

And I can't even find Sec. 44125 at all.

Then it must not be true? Try harder.

“Section 44125 of the “One Big Beautiful Bill” prohibits federal payment under Medicaid or CHIP for specified gender transition procedures. These procedures are defined as those intended to change an individual’s body so it no longer corresponds to their biological sex, including certain surgeries, implants, and medications such as hormones”

The concern level of 44125 is about a 0.5 on a ten- scale for me, but it might be an eleven for some people.

Enlighten me, then. I can't find that section in the BBB link you provided. I'm wondering if I'm losing my mind...

I can't find a section 44125, forget the word "transgender" or "gender". There are 15 uses of the word "transition", but they are all related to other things as are 20 uses of the word "procedure". I looked up "surg" and didn't get a hit.

The one thing I do wonder is if this might have existed but got the ax in the reconciliation process as not being budget related. I was surprised to see it was "in the bill" as it seems more political and outside the scope of what is allowed in this type of bill.

 

[Elixir]

I went back to my own link and couldn’t find it either. I did get this instruction from an AI but amn’t going there on my phone.
Let me know how it goes (this thing seems scurrilously opaque).

To access the text:
• Go to the official Congress.gov page for H.R.1 (119th Congress):
Search for “H.R.1 - 119th Congress (2025-2026): One Big Beautiful Bill Act” on Congress.gov.
• Use the bill text viewer or download the bill as a PDF or TXT file.
• Navigate to section 44125 within the text. This section is titled “Prohibiting Federal Medicaid and CHIP funding for gender transition procedures”

What is YOUR favorite part of the B.U.B., and where did you hear about it?

 

[bilby]

I did get this instruction from an AI

Well, that's your problem right there. AI is a bullshit* generator. It doesn't just generate falsehoods (if it did, it would be less dangerous); It is just 100% disinterested in whether or not what it generates is based on falsehoods.

AI is an idiot-savant; It can connect together things from its training data in surprising and interesting ways, but it has no way to evaluate what is true, and no way to resolve contradictions. It firmly and absolutely believes every single statement or claim in its training data to be perfectly and unquestionably true, and it picks the ones that are closest in content and tone to the question or prompt, to use in formulating a response.

And in the case of the prominent publically available AIs, that training data was the Internet.

You cannot get useful information from such a system. It's not even reliably wrong. It's not falsehood, it's far worse: It's bullshit. And it's very persuasively written bullshit. It will even provide bullshit citations for its output, some of which exist, and some of which even do say what it claims. But only some.

It makes an excellent bias amplifier. But a totally useless source of information.









* I am using "bullshit" here in a very specific way, to mean output whose truth value is of zero importance to its generator. Lies are not bullshit; A liar knows that he is lying, and wants others to believe his lies. A bullshiter neither knows nor cares whether he is lying. Bullshit is fact-neutral. It's true sometimes, but even when it's true, that truthfulness is unimportant to the originator of the bullshit.

 

[Elixir]

Well, that's your problem right

Not my problem! As I said, I’m not the one contesting that sec 44125 or whatever it was, targets trans or gay people.
I’d be shocked if it didn’t.
Anyhow…
I don’t know where else I’d have found that instruction. Presumably it was a useless piece of non-information?
Maybe the Beave will let us know what he found.
Anyhow, have you tried to locate any particular text in that bill? Is there any evidence that the alleged bill even exists? Web pages are more often fake than not, after all.

I have never had such problems before the Felon’s clown car came into power. Legislation was at least find-able on dot-gov sites.

You cannot get useful information from such a system.

If it is footnoted with source links, that’s information.

 

[bilby]

Well, that's your problem right

Not my problem! As I said, I’m not the one contesting that sec 44125 or whatever it was, targets trans or gay people.
I’d be shocked if it didn’t.
Anyhow…
I don’t know where else I’d have found that instruction. Presumably it was a useless piece of non-information?
Maybe the Beave will let us know what he found.
Anyhow, have you tried to locate any particular text in that bill? Is there any evidence that the alleged bill even exists? Web pages are more often fake than not, after all.

I have never had such problems before the Felon’s clown car came into power. Legislation was at least find-able on dot-gov sites.

You cannot get useful information from such a system.

If it is footnoted with source links, that’s information.

Only if those source links are to stuff that a) Exists, and b) Supports the "information" as presented.

Although chatbots such as ChatGPT can facilitate cost-effective text generation and editing, factually incorrect responses (hallucinations) limit their utility. This study evaluates one particular type of hallucination: fabricated bibliographic citations that do not represent actual scholarly works. We used ChatGPT-3.5 and ChatGPT-4 to produce short literature reviews on 42 multidisciplinary topics, compiling data on the 636 bibliographic citations (references) found in the 84 papers. We then searched multiple databases and websites to determine the prevalence of fabricated citations, to identify errors in the citations to non-fabricated papers, and to evaluate adherence to APA citation format. Within this set of documents, 55% of the GPT-3.5 citations but just 18% of the GPT-4 citations are fabricated. Likewise, 43% of the real (non-fabricated) GPT-3.5 citations but just 24% of the real GPT-4 citations include substantive citation errors. Although GPT-4 is a major improvement over GPT-3.5, problems remain.

Source

As the effort required to confirm the output of AI is generally of similar magnitude to the effort required to actually go find the same information through more traditional, non-AI, research, it seems that AI has roughly zero actual value to anyone who wants to know anything.

Although as people are generally lazy enough to just skip the confirmation step, the net value of AI is likely less than zero. It converts "I don't know" into "I still don't know, but am now confident that this is the answer".

To describe this as an improvement would be perverse.

 

[Elixir]

Only if those source links are to stuff that a) Exists, and b) Supports the "information" as presented.

Not so! In either case, it’s information.
Might be information that source A was lying or that the AI relied on person X who said Y when it told you something. That’s information.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I went back to my own link and couldn’t find it either. I did get this instruction from an AI but amn’t going there on my phone.

We need to aim to do better. "AI" isn't that intelligent. It can be remarkable when it is right and remarkably awful when it is wrong.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Only if those source links are to stuff that a) Exists, and b) Supports the "information" as presented.

Not so! In either case, it’s information.

No, it is a response.

I was doing a web search for info on the Ohio and Erie Canal... you know, something extremely non-controversial. Google AI, which I browsed before going down to see the hits, gave me this.

Lock 24 on the Ohio & Erie Canal is also known as Rileys Lock. It was part of the Miami and Erie Canal, which connected Cincinnati to Toledo, Ohio.

It literally told me two conflicting things in back to back statements without thinking twice about it, and provided needless trivial info for the wrong Lock 24. The QA/QC in search engine AI is abysmal.

Might be information that source A was lying or that the AI relied on person X who said Y when it told you something. That’s information.

The most important thing to know about AI is the sources don't have to be wrong for AI to screw it up,, as noted up top. You can't trust the Google AI. At best, the cites are what you need to click on to start developing something to quote.

 

[Elixir]

No, it is a response.

Responses can inform.
I asked an AI for help with changing string gauges on a guitar with a Floyd Rose bridge and locking nut, and it INFORMED me fully of everything I needed to know including a thing or two I had not considered.
AI is no different from a person in that regard. To say that it cannot inform, is just WRONG. Sure, it can give bad info, irrelevant info etc, but so can a person.

I also asked about replacing the packing bearing on a frost free register, and it didn’t spit out any info, but sent me to YouTube where I found videos that covered the matter perfectly.

Obviously, the AI doesn’t “know” any of this stuff, but it “knows” how to regurgitate what it was told and who told it.

 

[Jarhyn]

No, it is a response.

Responses can inform.
I asked an AI for help with changing string gauges on a guitar with a Floyd Rose bridge and locking nut, and it INFORMED me fully of everything I needed to know including a thing or two I had not considered.
AI is no different from a person in that regard. To say that it cannot inform, is just WRONG. Sure, it can give bad info, irrelevant info etc, but so can a person.

I also asked about replacing the packing bearing on a frost free register, and it didn’t spit out any info, but sent me to YouTube where I found videos that covered the matter perfectly.

Obviously, the AI doesn’t “know” any of this stuff, but it “knows” how to regurgitate what it was told and who told it.

I liken it to a shut-in autistic child with a fuckton of books and maybe too many paint chips in their diet and no concept of citation.

The AI knows what the books say about it, within context of their imagination about what that means, or could mean.

That does not mean their context contains the evidence that they would actually need to "know" it observationally.

 

[Swammerdami]

Let me tout the famous Wayback Machine One.More.Time. It has become one of my very favorite (and one of the very most important) sites on the entire Web.

For example, hearing the complaint that drafts of the ``One Big Beautiful Bill Act'' differed among themselves, I
* went to archive.org
* entered https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1/text into its search bar
* pressed enter
* was presented with a calendar showing times of snapshots of the target webpage (I screenshotted that and post part of it at the end of this post)

Note that each date on the calendar can contain multiple snapshots. After clicking on a day, you must click on a specific snapshot. I know little or nothing about details, but I certainly doubt that the Wayback Machine offers any guarantee that ALL intermediate revisions will be recorded.

Sounds like you and Swammerdami are advocating for truthiness.

The threat to democracy world-wide comes from professional right-wing liars. Among the many MANY lies is the lie that ALL present-day "facts" are lies, even the facts presented to help combat the professional liars.

But you do you, thebeave.

Looks like you need your hearing checked.
Alleging that my post asserts that “a particular statement is true based on the intuition or perceptions of some individual or individuals, without regard to evidence” is just naked bullshit. The EVIDENCE is
RIGHT HERE. If you dispute that evidence or have evidence to the contrary of what was asserted, lay it out. Don’t whine about not being spoon-fed.

I turned up the speaker volume to the maximum, then re-read what you wrote and I still didn't hear anything. I guess you're right.

I'm not going to spend a lot of time going through the emoji-laden post (that seems to have originated from some rando's Facebook page) and double check whether the claims align with the text in the actual bill. I did however, decide to take a quick look at one claim from the emoji text to see how it compares to the bill you linked:

WHEN LGBTQ+ KIDS HAVE NOWHERE LEFT TO GO
Sec. 44125: Strips healthcare + protections
Your gay nephew? Your trans friend? Denied care, expelled from school, forced into the shadows

And I can't even find Sec. 44125 at all. There's a section 40000, but that has to do with Science, Commerce and Transportation. I might be missing something, so hopefully you can at least point me in the right direction so I can check it out.

Did somebody ask for Section 44125? The Wayback Machine has LOTS of snapshots of "Big Beautiful Bill Act"; the very first one I clicked on not only had a Section 44125 but wen on and on about the all the prohibited procedures, as though gender transition was the biggest threat to Amerika since Pearl Harbor.

AN ACT



To provide for reconciliation pursuant to title II of H. Con. Res. 14.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the ``One Big Beautiful Bill Act''.

. . .

SEC. 44125. PROHIBITING FEDERAL MEDICAID AND CHIP FUNDING FOR GENDER
TRANSITION PROCEDURES.

(a) Medicaid.--Section 1903(i) of the Social Security Act (42
U.S.C. 1396b(i)) is amended--
(1) in paragraph (26), by striking ``; or'' and inserting a
semicolon;
(2) in paragraph (27), by striking the period at the end
and inserting ``; or'';
(3) by inserting after paragraph (27) the following new
paragraph:
``(28) with respect to any amount expended for specified
gender transition procedures (as defined in section 1905(kk))
furnished to an individual enrolled in a State plan (or waiver
of such plan).''; and
(4) in the flush left matter at the end, by striking ``and
(18),'' and inserting ``(18), and (28)''.
(b) CHIP.--Section 2107(e)(1)(N) of the Social Security Act (42
U.S.C. 1397gg(e)(1)(N)) is amended by striking ``and (17)'' and
inserting ``(17), and (28)''.
(c) Specified Gender Transition Procedures Defined.--Section 1905
of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 1396d) is amended by adding at
the end the following new subsection:
``(kk) Specified Gender Transition Procedures.--
``(1) In general.--For purposes of section 1903(i)(28),
except as provided in paragraph (2), the term `specified gender
transition procedure' means, with respect to an individual, any
of the following when performed for the purpose of
intentionally changing the body of such individual (including
by disrupting the body's development, inhibiting its natural
functions, or modifying its appearance) to no longer correspond
to the individual's sex:
``(A) Performing any surgery, including--
``(i) castration;
``(ii) sterilization;
``(iii) orchiectomy;
``(iv) scrotoplasty;
``(v) vasectomy;
``(vi) tubal ligation;
``(vii) hysterectomy;
``(viii) oophorectomy;
``(ix) ovariectomy;
``(x) metoidioplasty;
``(xi) clitoroplasty;
``(xii) reconstruction of the fixed part of
the urethra with or without a metoidioplasty or
a phalloplasty;
``(xiii) penectomy;
``(xiv) phalloplasty;
``(xv) vaginoplasty;
``(xvi) vaginectomy;
``(xvii) vulvoplasty;
``(xviii) reduction thyrochondroplasty;
``(xix) chondrolaryngoplasty;
``(xx) mastectomy; and
``(xxi) any plastic, cosmetic, or aesthetic
surgery that feminizes or masculinizes the
facial or other body features of an individual.
``(B) Any placement of chest implants to create
feminine breasts or any placement of erection or
testicular prostheses.
``(C) Any placement of fat or artificial implants
in the gluteal region.
``(D) Administering, prescribing, or dispensing to
an individual medications, including--
``(i) gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH)
analogues or other puberty-blocking drugs to
stop or delay normal puberty; and
``(ii) testosterone, estrogen, or other
androgens to an individual at doses that are
supraphysiologic than would normally be
produced endogenously in a healthy individual
of the same age and sex.
``(2) Exception.--Paragraph (1) shall not apply to the
following when furnished to an individual by a health care
provider with the consent of such individual's parent or legal
guardian:
``(A) Puberty suppression or blocking prescription
drugs for the purpose of normalizing puberty for an
individual experiencing precocious puberty.
``(B) Medically necessary procedures or treatments
to correct for--
``(i) a medically verifiable disorder of
sex development, including--
``(I) 46,XX chromosomes with
virilization;
``(II) 46,XY chromosomes with
undervirilization; and
``(III) both ovarian and testicular
tissue;
``(ii) sex chromosome structure, sex
steroid hormone production, or sex hormone
action, if determined to be abnormal by a
physician through genetic or biochemical
testing;
``(iii) infection, disease, injury, or
disorder caused or exacerbated by a previous
procedure described in paragraph (1), or a
physical disorder, physical injury, or physical
illness that would, as certified by a
physician, place the individual in imminent
danger of death or impairment of a major bodily
function unless the procedure is performed, not
including procedures performed for the
alleviation of mental distress; or
``(iv) procedures to restore or reconstruct
the body of the individual in order to
correspond to the individual's sex after one or
more previous procedures described in paragraph
(1), which may include the removal of a pseudo
phallus or breast augmentation.
``(3) Sex.--For purposes of paragraph (1), the term `sex'
means either male or female, as biologically determined and
defined in paragraphs (4) and (5), respectively.
``(4) Female.--For purposes of paragraph (3), the term
`female' means an individual who naturally has, had, will have,
or would have, but for a developmental or genetic anomaly or
historical accident, the reproductive system that at some point
produces, transports, and utilizes eggs for fertilization.
``(5) Male.--For purposes of paragraph (3), the term `male'
means an individual who naturally has, had, will have, or would
have, but for a developmental or genetic anomaly or historical
accident, the reproductive system that at some point produces,
transports, and utilizes sperm for fertilization.''.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I win!

 

[thebeave]

Let me tout the famous Wayback Machine One.More.Time. It has become one of my very favorite (and one of the very most important) sites on the entire Web.

For example, hearing the complaint that drafts of the ``One Big Beautiful Bill Act'' differed among themselves, I
* went to archive.org
* entered https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1/text into its search bar
* pressed enter
* was presented with a calendar showing times of snapshots of the target webpage (I screenshotted that and post part of it at the end of this post)

Note that each date on the calendar can contain multiple snapshots. After clicking on a day, you must click on a specific snapshot. I know little or nothing about details, but I certainly doubt that the Wayback Machine offers any guarantee that ALL intermediate revisions will be recorded.

Sounds like you and Swammerdami are advocating for truthiness.

The threat to democracy world-wide comes from professional right-wing liars. Among the many MANY lies is the lie that ALL present-day "facts" are lies, even the facts presented to help combat the professional liars.

But you do you, thebeave.

Looks like you need your hearing checked.
Alleging that my post asserts that “a particular statement is true based on the intuition or perceptions of some individual or individuals, without regard to evidence” is just naked bullshit. The EVIDENCE is
RIGHT HERE. If you dispute that evidence or have evidence to the contrary of what was asserted, lay it out. Don’t whine about not being spoon-fed.

I turned up the speaker volume to the maximum, then re-read what you wrote and I still didn't hear anything. I guess you're right.

I'm not going to spend a lot of time going through the emoji-laden post (that seems to have originated from some rando's Facebook page) and double check whether the claims align with the text in the actual bill. I did however, decide to take a quick look at one claim from the emoji text to see how it compares to the bill you linked:

WHEN LGBTQ+ KIDS HAVE NOWHERE LEFT TO GO
Sec. 44125: Strips healthcare + protections
Your gay nephew? Your trans friend? Denied care, expelled from school, forced into the shadows

And I can't even find Sec. 44125 at all. There's a section 40000, but that has to do with Science, Commerce and Transportation. I might be missing something, so hopefully you can at least point me in the right direction so I can check it out.

Did somebody ask for Section 44125? The Wayback Machine has LOTS of snapshots of "Big Beautiful Bill Act"; the very first one I clicked on not only had a Section 44125 but wen on and on about the all the prohibited procedures, as though gender transition was the biggest threat to Amerika since Pearl Harbor.

AN ACT



To provide for reconciliation pursuant to title II of H. Con. Res. 14.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the ``One Big Beautiful Bill Act''.

. . .

SEC. 44125. PROHIBITING FEDERAL MEDICAID AND CHIP FUNDING FOR GENDER
TRANSITION PROCEDURES.

(a) Medicaid.--Section 1903(i) of the Social Security Act (42
U.S.C. 1396b(i)) is amended--
(1) in paragraph (26), by striking ``; or'' and inserting a
semicolon;
(2) in paragraph (27), by striking the period at the end
and inserting ``; or'';
(3) by inserting after paragraph (27) the following new
paragraph:
``(28) with respect to any amount expended for specified
gender transition procedures (as defined in section 1905(kk))
furnished to an individual enrolled in a State plan (or waiver
of such plan).''; and
(4) in the flush left matter at the end, by striking ``and
(18),'' and inserting ``(18), and (28)''.
(b) CHIP.--Section 2107(e)(1)(N) of the Social Security Act (42
U.S.C. 1397gg(e)(1)(N)) is amended by striking ``and (17)'' and
inserting ``(17), and (28)''.
(c) Specified Gender Transition Procedures Defined.--Section 1905
of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 1396d) is amended by adding at
the end the following new subsection:
``(kk) Specified Gender Transition Procedures.--
``(1) In general.--For purposes of section 1903(i)(28),
except as provided in paragraph (2), the term `specified gender
transition procedure' means, with respect to an individual, any
of the following when performed for the purpose of
intentionally changing the body of such individual (including
by disrupting the body's development, inhibiting its natural
functions, or modifying its appearance) to no longer correspond
to the individual's sex:
``(A) Performing any surgery, including--
``(i) castration;
``(ii) sterilization;
``(iii) orchiectomy;
``(iv) scrotoplasty;
``(v) vasectomy;
``(vi) tubal ligation;
``(vii) hysterectomy;
``(viii) oophorectomy;
``(ix) ovariectomy;
``(x) metoidioplasty;
``(xi) clitoroplasty;
``(xii) reconstruction of the fixed part of
the urethra with or without a metoidioplasty or
a phalloplasty;
``(xiii) penectomy;
``(xiv) phalloplasty;
``(xv) vaginoplasty;
``(xvi) vaginectomy;
``(xvii) vulvoplasty;
``(xviii) reduction thyrochondroplasty;
``(xix) chondrolaryngoplasty;
``(xx) mastectomy; and
``(xxi) any plastic, cosmetic, or aesthetic
surgery that feminizes or masculinizes the
facial or other body features of an individual.
``(B) Any placement of chest implants to create
feminine breasts or any placement of erection or
testicular prostheses.
``(C) Any placement of fat or artificial implants
in the gluteal region.
``(D) Administering, prescribing, or dispensing to
an individual medications, including--
``(i) gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH)
analogues or other puberty-blocking drugs to
stop or delay normal puberty; and
``(ii) testosterone, estrogen, or other
androgens to an individual at doses that are
supraphysiologic than would normally be
produced endogenously in a healthy individual
of the same age and sex.
``(2) Exception.--Paragraph (1) shall not apply to the
following when furnished to an individual by a health care
provider with the consent of such individual's parent or legal
guardian:
``(A) Puberty suppression or blocking prescription
drugs for the purpose of normalizing puberty for an
individual experiencing precocious puberty.
``(B) Medically necessary procedures or treatments
to correct for--
``(i) a medically verifiable disorder of
sex development, including--
``(I) 46,XX chromosomes with
virilization;
``(II) 46,XY chromosomes with
undervirilization; and
``(III) both ovarian and testicular
tissue;
``(ii) sex chromosome structure, sex
steroid hormone production, or sex hormone
action, if determined to be abnormal by a
physician through genetic or biochemical
testing;
``(iii) infection, disease, injury, or
disorder caused or exacerbated by a previous
procedure described in paragraph (1), or a
physical disorder, physical injury, or physical
illness that would, as certified by a
physician, place the individual in imminent
danger of death or impairment of a major bodily
function unless the procedure is performed, not
including procedures performed for the
alleviation of mental distress; or
``(iv) procedures to restore or reconstruct
the body of the individual in order to
correspond to the individual's sex after one or
more previous procedures described in paragraph
(1), which may include the removal of a pseudo
phallus or breast augmentation.
``(3) Sex.--For purposes of paragraph (1), the term `sex'
means either male or female, as biologically determined and
defined in paragraphs (4) and (5), respectively.
``(4) Female.--For purposes of paragraph (3), the term
`female' means an individual who naturally has, had, will have,
or would have, but for a developmental or genetic anomaly or
historical accident, the reproductive system that at some point
produces, transports, and utilizes eggs for fertilization.
``(5) Male.--For purposes of paragraph (3), the term `male'
means an individual who naturally has, had, will have, or would
have, but for a developmental or genetic anomaly or historical
accident, the reproductive system that at some point produces,
transports, and utilizes sperm for fertilization.''.

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Gosh. I feel like such a fool.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

No, it is a response.

Responses can inform.

*smacks Elixir on forehead with newspaper*

Stop it! We are screwed if we accept that "responses can inform" is a viable excuse for accepting an answer provided by an "AI" that has very little in the way of QC/QA involved. At the very best, that provides one with a starting point, not a finishing point.

I asked an AI for help with changing string gauges on a guitar with a Floyd Rose bridge and locking nut, and it INFORMED me fully of everything I needed to know including a thing or two I had not considered.

As we tell new engineers, computers are great... but if you don't have a good grasp on what the answers it should provide before it provides them, you really have no idea if the computer gave you something that is viable or remotely accurate. AI search engines are much worse and much less reliable than engineering software! They can provide you the right and wrong answers with the exact same sense of certainty. At least engineering software can raise red flags.

AI is no different from a person in that regard. To say that it cannot inform, is just WRONG. Sure, it can give bad info, irrelevant info etc, but so can a person.

Except you could have gone directly into the legislation and looked yourself. Like I did. It took a bit more work, but right off the bat, there was no Section of that number. So less than one minute in, I knew that there was something amiss.

 

[Elixir]

Gosh. I feel like such a fool

Right? This thing is so opaque, so full of bait-and-switch bs … the whole fucking thing is an exercise in deceit.

Everything in this bill is Nazi shit.

My own grandparents had some really good advice about what to do about that.

Yah. My parents too.