Your assumption only and not supported by evidence nor by what we know of Zimmerman's behavior in other situations.
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Please, your "other situations" of disobeying cops is actually one situation when he was a drunken 21-year old. If that is now admissible as evidence, we might as well dust off Martin being in one fight in school as conclusive proof that he must have clocked Zimmerman.
except that there is NO evidence that Trayvon was in any brawls at school. You keep insisting that he was. You keep claiming that this person or that person said he was. But you have yet to provide any evidence.
We have evidence (police reports) showing Zimmerman's behaviors.
We have no evidence of him venturing south from the T until he met with Trayvon again on his way back to his truck.
Actually, we have no evidence that Zimmerman was ever "on his way back to his truck". We do, however, have clear evidence that he ended up approximately 45 feet south of the top of the T.
We can hear from his voice on the call that he slowed down when he saw that Martin was long gone.
Your opinion, not facts
His keys were dropped only a few yards away from the path. What evidence do you haev to prove that Zimmerman chased Martin, except your presupposition that he is apparently the real-life Dexter Morgan?
Since you are the only one in this exchange that mistakes your own person opinion for facts, I find it ironic that you are blathering on about "proof" for something I VERY CLEARLY SAID was my opinion - an opinion that is exactly based on the FACT that Zimmerman's keys were several feet south on the top of the T, and Trayvon's dead body was many more feet further still.
, even the neighbourhood watch guideline that you refer to encourages to be watchful and provide the police with as much details as possible. Moving to a vantage point where he could see whether the "burglar" leaves the neighbourhood or not, without actually putting himself in his path is a reasonable thing to do. Besides the beighbourhood watch instructions do not explicitly say that one must not ever move by foot, or that one should seek shelter from a car if one happens to be on foot.
wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong
Neighborhood watch training does explicitly say NOT to follow or otherwise engage the "suspect".
Nice goal-post moving. I Zimmerman did not engage Martin until later, and the issue here was leaving his car. Ther eis no denying that Zimmerman and Martin had a struggle, and that it was very likely facilitated by Zimmerman trying to detain and/or shoot him while failing to identify himself.
Do you just throw words at the screen when you realize your arguments have failed? There was no "goal-post moving" on my part
Zimmerman getting out of his vehicle when he KNEW he wasn't supposed to, AND taking his gun with him, set up a chain of events that ended in the death of an innocent teenager. If Zimmerman stayed in his truck like his was supposed to, like prudence/safety/caution would make any reasonable person do, then Trayvon would not be dead.
As for your ridiculous twisting of what is being said, you have clearly conceded that you (1) don't know what you are talking about anymore, and (2) are just arguing to argue. No one ever said anything like neighborhood watch training says "one must not ever move by foot, or that one should seek shelter from a car if one happens to be on foot" and you know it. You also know what WAS said and meant.
The context was clearly, that Zimmerman should not leave his F*ing car. Those were your exact words, and that's not explicitly against Neihbourhood watch rules. The rules only say that one should never take any risks or engage the suspect, and that's a whole another argument. As for arguing for arguing's sake, I'm not the one harping on scenarios that are not supported by evidence, just to dehumanize the culprit beyond all reason. All I'm saying is that there are some things about that night that we can extrapolate based on evidence, and some details which are pure guesswork.
You have the neighborhood watch rules and/or training manual for Sanford Florida? Post a link to it. In the meantime, when the murder first happened, the police officer who did the training in that community said he should not have followed Trayvon, should not have been looking for where Trayvon went, should not have been wandering around allegedly looking for street addresses, and sure as fuck should not have taken his gun to go chasing Trayvon. You can wriggle and whine that neighborhood watch rules don't EXPLICITLY say "George Zimmerman will stay in his fucking truck, and not use his gun to shoot innocent teenagers" but frankly, it is a very poor argument on your part.
You have utterly failed to minimize George Zimmerman's full responsibility, and thankfully also failed to convince anyone that Trayvon was in any way responsible for his own death.
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Still waiting for Loren and/or Colorado to explain what Trayvon's "culture" is.
