George Zimmerman Arrested On Domestic Violence And Weapons Charge

[coloradoatheist]

George Zimmerman has proved himself to be a violent aggressive liar in at least six known situations that did not involve Trayvon Martin. Yet, on a thread about GEORGE ZIMMERMAN yet again being aggressive and violent towards someone WHO WAS NOT TRAYVON MARTIN, multiple people simply can not acknowledge that maybe... just maybe... George Zimmerman was violently aggressive towards Trayvon Martin, killed him, and then lied to cover his own ass after.

Mind boggling.

And at the same time there isn't any possibility that a 17 year old male decided that he got pissed and started a fight?

 

[Nice Squirrel]

Can the same thing be asked for by the people that said Zimmerman followed Martin after the dispatcher told him not to?

It does not make sense if Zimmerman called from his car and he shot Martin away from his car for Zimmerman not to have pursued Martin. Also Martin would not have asked why Zimmerman was following him. So, we can state that unless a wormhole opened up, Zimmerman followed Martin. (There is also this thing called motivation. Martin has no motivation to follow Zimmerman. Zimmerman has declared motivation to follow Martin.)

 

[Nice Squirrel]

But you also don't need to have the exact locations to figure out the probable paths of both people.

But people aren't arguing probable paths. They are arguing specific paths with assumed speeds, distances and trajectories that cannot possibly be known and based upon the evidence are quite fantastical or magical.

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So any update with the pending case against him or are we just going to rehash the case from almost three years ago?

Taken on its own merits, throwing objects at each other is what quarreling lovers often do. I am not sure it by itself should be a criminal offense, otherwise a lot of people would be in jail.

Wait, WHAT!? You think quarreling lovers OFTEN throw objects at each other?! This is your reality?

I wasn't going to say it. Unless you mean snowballs.

 

[laughing dog]

George Zimmerman has proved himself to be a violent aggressive liar in at least six known situations that did not involve Trayvon Martin. Yet, on a thread about GEORGE ZIMMERMAN yet again being aggressive and violent towards someone WHO WAS NOT TRAYVON MARTIN, multiple people simply can not acknowledge that maybe... just maybe... George Zimmerman was violently aggressive towards Trayvon Martin, killed him, and then lied to cover his own ass after.

Mind boggling.

And at the same time there isn't any possibility that a 17 year old male decided that he got pissed and started a fight?

Of course, but that misses the entire point (and ignores the possible reason whys) Martin was and continues to be demonized as a purple drank, burgalizing, fight-mongering thug by a significant number of people to imply or aver that he deserved what he got. On the other hand, the same people portrayed and continue to portray Zimmerman as a lovable dimwitted peaceful law abiding citizen even though there is now plenty of evidence to contradict the peaceful and law-abiding assumptions. Given that we do not know what happened, why should people believe Zimmerman's entire story in light of his revealed tendency towards drawing guns and the obvious fact he has every incentive to lie.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

George Zimmerman has proved himself to be a violent aggressive liar in at least six known situations that did not involve Trayvon Martin. Yet, on a thread about GEORGE ZIMMERMAN yet again being aggressive and violent towards someone WHO WAS NOT TRAYVON MARTIN, multiple people simply can not acknowledge that maybe... just maybe... George Zimmerman was violently aggressive towards Trayvon Martin, killed him, and then lied to cover his own ass after.

Mind boggling.

And at the same time there isn't any possibility that a 17 year old male decided that he got pissed and started a fight?

Sure, but you have a man with an ongoing history of violent aggression who was at that time frustrated* with "them" getting away with "it", and a teen without a prior history who was walking to his girlfriends house.

*frustration is the underlying trigger to anger.

 

[coloradoatheist]

Can the same thing be asked for by the people that said Zimmerman followed Martin after the dispatcher told him not to?

It does not make sense if Zimmerman called from his car and he shot Martin away from his car for Zimmerman not to have pursued Martin. Also Martin would not have asked why Zimmerman was following him. So, we can state that unless a wormhole opened up, Zimmerman followed Martin. (There is also this thing called motivation. Martin has no motivation to follow Zimmerman. Zimmerman has declared motivation to follow Martin.)

I said after the dispatcher said stop following. He got of the car to follow Martin for the directions for the dispatcher and the police. He was then told to stop and he started talking normally with the dispatcher. So the dispute is after the Zimmerman said he lost Martin and the dispatcher said don't follow.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

It does not make sense if Zimmerman called from his car and he shot Martin away from his car for Zimmerman not to have pursued Martin. Also Martin would not have asked why Zimmerman was following him. So, we can state that unless a wormhole opened up, Zimmerman followed Martin. (There is also this thing called motivation. Martin has no motivation to follow Zimmerman. Zimmerman has declared motivation to follow Martin.)

I said after the dispatcher said stop following. He got of the car to follow Martin for the directions for the dispatcher and the police. He was then told to stop and he started talking normally with the dispatcher. So the dispute is after the Zimmerman said he lost Martin and the dispatcher said don't follow.

So Zimmerman just got sucked up into that wormhole? Or did her pursue Martin?

 

[coloradoatheist]

But people aren't arguing probable paths. They are arguing specific paths with assumed speeds, distances and trajectories that cannot possibly be known and based upon the evidence are quite fantastical or magical.

And that's why I asked for which path that martin took or probably took. There are 4 or 5 paths that followed with all but one doubling back. And then for the one for not doubling back, we have to ask if that would be consistent with both testimonies.

 

[coloradoatheist]

I said after the dispatcher said stop following. He got of the car to follow Martin for the directions for the dispatcher and the police. He was then told to stop and he started talking normally with the dispatcher. So the dispute is after the Zimmerman said he lost Martin and the dispatcher said don't follow.

So Zimmerman just got sucked up into that wormhole? Or did her pursue Martin?

Or that he stopped pursuing, lost sight of him, and was waiting for the police officers to come to the scene and help him look.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

So Zimmerman just got sucked up into that wormhole? Or did her pursue Martin?

Or that he stopped pursuing, lost sight of him, and was waiting for the police officers to come to the scene and help him look.

Yes, because that is consistent with his behavior and he was magically at the point go the physical altercation.

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But people aren't arguing probable paths. They are arguing specific paths with assumed speeds, distances and trajectories that cannot possibly be known and based upon the evidence are quite fantastical or magical.

And that's why I asked for which path that martin took or probably took. There are 4 or 5 paths that followed with all but one doubling back. And then for the one for not doubling back, we have to ask if that would be consistent with both testimonies.

Why would have HAVE to double back? Do you have the exact movements on both Martin and Zimmerman at all times? I can come up with about 12 probable paths, none of which double back... in other words, you are just making things up to fit your narrative.

 

[coloradoatheist]

Or that he stopped pursuing, lost sight of him, and was waiting for the police officers to come to the scene and help him look.

Yes, because that is consistent with his behavior and he was magically at the point go the physical altercation.

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But people aren't arguing probable paths. They are arguing specific paths with assumed speeds, distances and trajectories that cannot possibly be known and based upon the evidence are quite fantastical or magical.

And that's why I asked for which path that martin took or probably took. There are 4 or 5 paths that followed with all but one doubling back. And then for the one for not doubling back, we have to ask if that would be consistent with both testimonies.

Why would have HAVE to double back? Do you have the exact movements on both Martin and Zimmerman at all times? I can come up with about 12 probable paths, none of which double back... in other words, you are just making things up to fit your narrative.

And at the same time you are forgetting about at least two documented fights by Martin and the one where he got detention because the teacher said he hit someone.

What are the twelve probable paths?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

So Zimmerman just got sucked up into that wormhole? Or did her pursue Martin?

Or that he stopped pursuing, lost sight of him, and was waiting for the police officers to come to the scene and help him look.

Amazing that people make up scenarios that Zimmerman hasn't even alleged. That's dedication!

 

[fromderinside]

burp. Zimmerman arrested. Again? burp.

'nuff sed.

 

[RavenSky]

George Zimmerman has proved himself to be a violent aggressive liar in at least six known situations that did not involve Trayvon Martin. Yet, on a thread about GEORGE ZIMMERMAN yet again being aggressive and violent towards someone WHO WAS NOT TRAYVON MARTIN, multiple people simply can not acknowledge that maybe... just maybe... George Zimmerman was violently aggressive towards Trayvon Martin, killed him, and then lied to cover his own ass after.

Mind boggling.

And at the same time there isn't any possibility that a 17 year old male decided that he got pissed and started a fight?

George Zimmerman has proved himself to be a violent aggressive liar in at least six known situations that did not involve Trayvon Martin.
George Zimmerman profiled Trayvon Martin, and with no factual basis immediately pegged him as one of "these assholes [that] always get away."
George Zimmerman chose to take a gun with him when he followed Trayvon Martin.
George Zimmerman, by his own admission, chose not to identify himself to Trayvon Martin.
George Zimmerman lied about many key aspects of what happened that night, and gave grossly conflicting versions of it.

No, there is no rational reason to believe that Trayvon Martin just suddenly "decided that he got pissed and started a fight" just as there is no rational reason to believe in leprechauns.

 

[RavenSky]

Yes, because that is consistent with his behavior and he was magically at the point go the physical altercation.

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But people aren't arguing probable paths. They are arguing specific paths with assumed speeds, distances and trajectories that cannot possibly be known and based upon the evidence are quite fantastical or magical.

And that's why I asked for which path that martin took or probably took. There are 4 or 5 paths that followed with all but one doubling back. And then for the one for not doubling back, we have to ask if that would be consistent with both testimonies.

Why would have HAVE to double back? Do you have the exact movements on both Martin and Zimmerman at all times? I can come up with about 12 probable paths, none of which double back... in other words, you are just making things up to fit your narrative.

And at the same time you are forgetting about at least two documented fights by Martin and the one where he got detention because the teacher said he hit someone.

False.

The two "documented fights" were scheduled boxing/wrestling type matches, timed and with rules. They are zero evidence of any sort of inclination that he suddenly "decided that he got pissed and started a fight" with George Zimmerman.

"one where he got detention because the teacher said he hit someone" <----------------- post the link

 

[coloradoatheist]

Or that he stopped pursuing, lost sight of him, and was waiting for the police officers to come to the scene and help him look.

Amazing that people make up scenarios that Zimmerman hasn't even alleged. That's dedication!

On his video his version was..."I got out of the car to check for a street sign and see where he went" The dispatcher said stop and I said okay. I went to RVC to look for an address, and I was walking back when I got jumped.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

Yes, because that is consistent with his behavior and he was magically at the point go the physical altercation.

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But people aren't arguing probable paths. They are arguing specific paths with assumed speeds, distances and trajectories that cannot possibly be known and based upon the evidence are quite fantastical or magical.

And that's why I asked for which path that martin took or probably took. There are 4 or 5 paths that followed with all but one doubling back. And then for the one for not doubling back, we have to ask if that would be consistent with both testimonies.

Why would have HAVE to double back? Do you have the exact movements on both Martin and Zimmerman at all times? I can come up with about 12 probable paths, none of which double back... in other words, you are just making things up to fit your narrative.

And at the same time you are forgetting about at least two documented fights by Martin and the one where he got detention because the teacher said he hit someone.

Please provide the documentation of Trayvon Martin's past physical altercations.

 

[coloradoatheist]

Yes, because that is consistent with his behavior and he was magically at the point go the physical altercation.

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But people aren't arguing probable paths. They are arguing specific paths with assumed speeds, distances and trajectories that cannot possibly be known and based upon the evidence are quite fantastical or magical.

And that's why I asked for which path that martin took or probably took. There are 4 or 5 paths that followed with all but one doubling back. And then for the one for not doubling back, we have to ask if that would be consistent with both testimonies.

Why would have HAVE to double back? Do you have the exact movements on both Martin and Zimmerman at all times? I can come up with about 12 probable paths, none of which double back... in other words, you are just making things up to fit your narrative.

And at the same time you are forgetting about at least two documented fights by Martin and the one where he got detention because the teacher said he hit someone.

Please provide the documentation of Trayvon Martin's past physical altercations.

We had the one with the three rounds, one other that didn't have mention of rounds, and the one he got detention for. Even Jeantel just said she thought it was a normal fight. I'm also curious how often fights occur at the school that he went to.

 

[coloradoatheist]

And at the same time there isn't any possibility that a 17 year old male decided that he got pissed and started a fight?

George Zimmerman has proved himself to be a violent aggressive liar in at least six known situations that did not involve Trayvon Martin.
George Zimmerman profiled Trayvon Martin, and with no factual basis immediately pegged him as one of "these [that] assholes always get away."
George Zimmerman chose to take a gun with him when he followed Trayvon Martin.
George Zimmerman, by his own admission, chose not to identify himself to Trayvon Martin.
George Zimmerman lied about many key aspects of what happened that night, and gave grossly conflicting versions of it.

No, there is no rational reason to believe that Trayvon Martin just suddenly "decided that he got pissed and started a fight" just as there is no rational reason to believe in leprechauns.

And how many of the six know situations did he call the cops prior to the event? How many times did he call the 311/911 calls about real suspects and at least one of them was caught later? For carrying a gun, we allow citizens to carry guns so they don't have to be afraid of criminals. And for identifying himself, we don't know which was said, one account was "What are you doing here?" That would be a normal introduction in a conversation before identifying oneself. According to the supposed conversations all that was said, "Why are you following me" followed by the punch. And for the last part, that was young foolishness because we do tel stories slightly different each time we tell them and I am curious if his lawyer told him to do the walkthrough or the interview after the incident.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

But you also don't need to have the exact locations to figure out the probable paths of both people.

There's a presumption of guilt--Martin was black, Zimmerman wasn't. Unless you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman is innocent he's guilty.