Friends and Family Who Died Yet Were Never Saved

[DBT]

Saved for what purpose? To worship, praise and sing hymns to our saviour for eternity? Eternity is a long time.

 

[bilby]

Speaking earthly it does not seem possible.

There's a simple explanation for why it seems that way.

 

[Tigers!]

Saved for what purpose? To worship, praise and sing hymns to our saviour for eternity? Eternity is a long time.

Eternity is indeed a long time.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Saved for what purpose? To worship, praise and sing hymns to our saviour for eternity? Eternity is a long time.

I've wondered if any kind of eternal life would be hell.

 

[Thomas II]

My wife and I have been talking about this topic for quite a while now.
Having your daughter get engaged, realising retirement is just around the corner, a younger sister becoming a grandmother, parents passing on etc. all cause you to think about some things much more seriously.
We have had relatives, friends die who were not saved and we do wonder just what exactly does that mean. Seeing it written in words is much different to actually contemplation the realities of said words.

How would Heaven for example be, if we knew that person X was not there? We are told that there will be no tears in Heaven.
I have no idea how it will work in practice i.e. you are in one place and family, friends are in the other place (choose which one you wish).
Speaking earthly it does not seem possible.
My wife and I will will leave that to God. It is his home and he is responsible for such things.

"Salvation is wholly by the grace (unmerited favor) of God..."

(As you say "Leave that to God")...Be thankful for all you have...

 

[DBT]

Saved for what purpose? To worship, praise and sing hymns to our saviour for eternity? Eternity is a long time.

Eternity is indeed a long time.

With the number of things that can be thought, felt and done being finite, existence may become an endless repetition of the same sets of events. Caught in a Cosmic Loop with no way off. Perhaps a memory wipe to freshen things up, yet a memory wipe is a form of death.

 

[Rhea]

How would Heaven for example be, if we knew that person X was not there? We are told that there will be no tears in Heaven.
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My wife and I will will leave that to God. It is his home and he is responsible for such things.

My mother brought up god and the lack of religiosity in her children just before she descended into dementia some years back. She wanted to know if we were going to come back to the church, she was worried aboout our eternal souls.

I reminded her that her church taught her there were no tears in heaven and that her god promised her she would be delightfully happy while her children burned in hell. So no problem, right?

I don’t know what she told herself to recover from that. It’s something she’ll have to work out - whether she wants to worship a being that would torture her children and make her smile about it.

 

[Tigers!]

My wife and I have been talking about this topic for quite a while now.
Having your daughter get engaged, realising retirement is just around the corner, a younger sister becoming a grandmother, parents passing on etc. all cause you to think about some things much more seriously.
We have had relatives, friends die who were not saved and we do wonder just what exactly does that mean. Seeing it written in words is much different to actually contemplation the realities of said words.

How would Heaven for example be, if we knew that person X was not there? We are told that there will be no tears in Heaven.
I have no idea how it will work in practice i.e. you are in one place and family, friends are in the other place (choose which one you wish).
Speaking earthly it does not seem possible.
My wife and I will will leave that to God. It is his home and he is responsible for such things.

"Salvation is wholly by the grace (unmerited favor) of God..."

(As you say "Leave that to God")...Be thankful for all you have...

Be thankful for what you have is wise advice. I fail at it too much,

 

[southernhybrid]

We have had relatives, friends die who were not saved and we do wonder just what exactly does that mean.

Maybe the problem is the use of the word "saved"?

According to Jesus's own Church, the RCC, Baptists are not saved. I know this because they taught me for 12 years.

Protestants are hell bound sinners who don't care about God, they make themselves gods. Or, at least, the humans who led them away from Jesus are made into gods.

Or something like that...

I dunno. I don't believe any of that stuff anymore, haven't for decades. I don't think humans know anything about who is saved and who is not. Any more than we know how Santa's reindeer fly.
Tom

Your post brought back some childhood memories. Most of my friends were Catholic and I was a Baptist. We preached to each other and I worried that my little friends were all hell bound, while I guess they might have thought the same about me. Luckily, it didn't interfere with our friendships because we didn't dwell on it too much.

I used to be a volunteer in a local elementary school. Sometimes the girls would beg me to stay and have lunch with them. There are very few Catholics where I live, but sometimes the conversations that these little 3rd grade girls had about religion reminded me of my own childhood. They talked about being saved etc. Hopefully, some of them will think about these things more seriously as they reach adulthood and free themselves from the bonds of fundamentalism. I sometimes wondered what they would think if they knew their favorite volunteer was an atheist.

 

[Thomas II]

My wife and I have been talking about this topic for quite a while now.
Having your daughter get engaged, realising retirement is just around the corner, a younger sister becoming a grandmother, parents passing on etc. all cause you to think about some things much more seriously.
We have had relatives, friends die who were not saved and we do wonder just what exactly does that mean. Seeing it written in words is much different to actually contemplation the realities of said words.

How would Heaven for example be, if we knew that person X was not there? We are told that there will be no tears in Heaven.
I have no idea how it will work in practice i.e. you are in one place and family, friends are in the other place (choose which one you wish).
Speaking earthly it does not seem possible.
My wife and I will will leave that to God. It is his home and he is responsible for such things.

"Salvation is wholly by the grace (unmerited favor) of God..."

(As you say "Leave that to God")...Be thankful for all you have...

Be thankful for what you have is wise advice. I fail at it too much,

We all do...