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What if Jews are just better?

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In the fait accompli critical theory, postmodern, equity "understanding" of society, all groups are equal in all relevant respects, and so if there are disparate outcomes, it's because society has done something (bad) to cause groups to have differential outcomes. This is accepted without question by the modern left, even though no proof is ever offered. It's certainly the case that people more accomplished than I have been fired for saying far less than I did in my 'what if men are just better?' thread.

Although I predict this thread to have a similar outcome as that one (that is, the people who categorically believe that nearly all relevant differences between men and women is due to social conditioning and/or discrimination, continuing to believe that), I nevertheless want to float another idea, and probably an idea that won't be too popular with the antisemitic left:

Jews are just better at almost every human endeavour (except, I think, sporting/athletic achievement).

What do I mean by this? I mean, for a group that is less than 0.2% of the world population, and 2% of the American population, Jewish achievement is staggeringly disproportionate to its population. Twenty percent of Nobel prize winners are Jewish, (and probably more if Jewish ancestry is considered more broadly). A quarter of Fields medallists (the highest prize in Mathematics) are Jewish.

The success is not confined merely to sciences; Jewish talent is staggeringly abundant in the arts as well. More than a third of Academy Award Best Director trophies went to Jewish directors; more than two-thirds of Tony-award winning composers and lyricists are Jewish. Jewish comedians number among the most successful of all time. Jewish achievement in politics and finance and economics and industry and medicine and literature are widely known.

In the first half of the twentieth century, American universities had quotas to keep out the allegedly 'feeble minded' Jewish population. No doubt similar quotas apply today under 'diversity' initiatives.

I think that Jewish success is partly--or perhaps mostly--explained by higher than average intelligence in the Ashkenazi Jewish population. But explaining differential success between groups as partly dependent on intelligence is anathema to the left. It is forbidden. It is verboten.

The only thing that can explain Jewish success relative to other groups is Jewish privilege. Jews are not just white-adjacent. They must be superwhites.
 
In the fait accompli critical theory, postmodern, equity "understanding" of society, all groups are equal in all relevant respects, and so if there are disparate outcomes, it's because society has done something (bad) to cause groups to have differential outcomes. This is accepted without question by the modern left, even though no proof is ever offered.
Man, hard to crash the thread in just two sentences, but you did a great job of managing it. Huzzah! Also the double strawman is quite impressive as well.

I think what is actually believed is that three plus centuries of slavery and then Jim Crow have impacted opportunity for African Americans in the US. Any doubt of this reality is delusion. The question remains how to address it, not whether it is true.

Although I predict this thread to have a similar outcome as that one (that is, the people who categorically believe that nearly all relevant differences between men and women is due to social conditioning and/or discrimination, continuing to believe that), I nevertheless want to float another idea, and probably an idea that won't be too popular with the antisemitic left:
Did it again. And you wonder why your threads die terrible deaths, The anti-Semitic left? Why is it that conservatives always whine about their ideas being considered systemic racism... yet are always the first ones to call out others as bigots or racists?

Jews are just better at almost every human endeavour (except, I think, sporting/athletic achievement).

What do I mean by this? I mean, for a group that is less than 0.2% of the world population, and 2% of the American population, Jewish achievement is staggeringly disproportionate to its population. Twenty percent of Nobel prize winners are Jewish, (and probably more if Jewish ancestry is considered more broadly). A quarter of Fields medallists (the highest prize in Mathematics) are Jewish.

The success is not confined merely to sciences; Jewish talent is staggeringly abundant in the arts as well. More than a third of Academy Award Best Director trophies went to Jewish directors; more than two-thirds of Tony-award winning composers and lyricists are Jewish. Jewish comedians number among the most successful of all time. Jewish achievement in politics and finance and economics and industry and medicine and literature are widely known.

In the first half of the twentieth century, American universities had quotas to keep out the allegedly 'feeble minded' Jewish population. No doubt similar quotas apply today under 'diversity' initiatives.

I think that Jewish success is partly--or perhaps mostly--explained by higher than average intelligence in the Ashkenazi Jewish population. But explaining differential success between groups as partly dependent on intelligence is anathema to the left. It is forbidden. It is verboten.

The only thing that can explain Jewish success relative to other groups is Jewish privilege. Jews are not just white-adjacent. They must be superwhites.
Well, they are the chosen people after all.
 
Man, hard to crash the thread in just two sentences, but you did a great job of managing it. Huzzah! Also the double strawman is quite impressive as well.

I think what is actually believed is that three plus centuries of slavery and then Jim Crow have impacted opportunity for African Americans in the US. Any doubt of this reality is delusion. The question remains how to address it, not whether it is true.

Um what? You crashed this in one sentence. What does your above sentence have to do with my OP?

Did it again. And you wonder why your threads die terrible deaths, The anti-Semitic left? Why is it that conservatives always whine about their ideas being considered systemic racism... yet are always the first ones to call out others as bigots or racists?

Conservative? Okay luv. Also, "terrible deaths?" Hardly - I think I've had quite a number of threads that have provoked a lot of debate. I just don't know that anyone changed their minds. But the latter is probably true for almost every thread.

Well, they are the chosen people after all.

Not likely. God doesn't exist so she could hardly have chosen the Jews as her people.
 
Um what? You crashed this in one sentence. What does your above sentence have to do with my OP?
Well, it quoted the relevant part, the VBB software does a good job of making it easy to see and read it. Your premise is based on an ignorant presumption of someone else's presumption. Then you call left-wingers anti-Semitic, oh sure, not all of them, but you call left-wingers anti-Semitic. And you ignore the part where this all comes down to access to opportunities, how previous success helps lead to next generational success.

Conservative? Okay luv. Also, "terrible deaths?" Hardly - I think I've had quite a number of threads that have provoked a lot of debate.
Is that what you call senseless cycles of 'Not I didn't" v. "Yes you did"?
 
Your premise is based on an ignorant presumption of someone else's presumption.

Non. The modern left presumes that all relevant differences between groups are due to social factors and discrimination. That is why the left supports equity over equal opportunity, and why the left identifies disparate outcomes with discrimination. Not that the left is coherent: apparently men and women have different brains, but any differences between men and women (like wage differences) or due to forces outside the men and women and not their different brains.
 
Jews in pre-modern Europe faced significant discrimination. They could not own land. They were excluded from the trades. In many places they were confined to ghettos. But they could be money changers. They could engaged in mental/financial occupations. Over centuries this selected for high intelligence. Such that, when the Jews became free to leave the ghettos, the Rothschilds controlled Europe’s finances. Jews are wildly overrepresented with Nobel prizes and on the list of the world’s wealthiest. While creationists and Lysenkoists reject that humans are animals subject to natural selection, Nature doesn’t care about their feelings.
 
Your premise is based on an ignorant presumption of someone else's presumption.

Non. The modern left presumes that all relevant differences between groups are due to social factors and discrimination.
Reasserting a false premise doesn't make it any less false.
That is why the left supports equity over equal opportunity, and why the left identifies disparate outcomes with discrimination.
As noted, you can't wipe away centuries of repression in a few decades.
Not that the left is coherent:
Luckily you are on the coherent side.
apparently men and women have different brains, but any differences between men and women (like wage differences) or due to forces outside the men and women and not their different brains.
What are you actually stating? Despite you being on the "coherent" side, it is hard to actually understand what you are implying there, because it seems you are either intentionally looking for a particular response so you can claim to be a victim or or you are decades behind on biology.
 
I didn't think it was possible to get more than twenty or thirty strawmen in the first paragraph of an OP. Silly me.
 
Hobsbawm said Jews were very well adapted for the Industrial Revolution because they were insular, urban and had a tradition of literacy and education.
 
I saw Bret Weinstein say there are vanishingly small difference in genetic cognitive abilities. But it looked like he was lying. Of all the third rails he is already stepping on, he probably knows better than to take on the final boss third rail.

All of his good work will be destroyed. I don't think I am be dramatic here. He would be seen as a Stefan Molyneux.
 
Metaphor you haven't presented an argument, you've presented a bunch of facts without any context, and so there's no reason to believe that Jews are better based on what you've included in the OP.

To actually make this argument you'd likely need to do years and years of research, or at least link to someone who has already done so. Until that time I don't see any reason to believe the claim.
 
Jews in pre-modern Europe faced significant discrimination. They could not own land. They were excluded from the trades. In many places they were confined to ghettos. But they could be money changers. They could engaged in mental/financial occupations. Over centuries this selected for high intelligence. Such that, when the Jews became free to leave the ghettos, the Rothschilds controlled Europe’s finances. Jews are wildly overrepresented with Nobel prizes and on the list of the world’s wealthiest. While creationists and Lysenkoists reject that humans are animals subject to natural selection, Nature doesn’t care about their feelings.

People are certainly subject to natural selection, but I don't see you present any research backing up your claim.
 
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