Thoughts on the Inane Political Reaction to San Bernardino

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

The thing is the terrorists are a small subset of the KKK.

Just like terrorists are a small subset of both Hamas AND Hezbollah.

Your double standards are showing.

This is a good point.

 

[repoman]

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The thing is the terrorists are a small subset of the KKK.

So those guys who go out and put on bed sheets with eye slits are doing so out of pride and patriotism? They are not hiding from the fact that they support what atrocities you call a small percentage of them do in their name?

Wear a mask. Be a coward. If Daesh person's can't stand full bearded in front of a camera are they patriots, heros, or scared that if they were actually known they'd be brought to justice by their neighbors toot sweet?

As an aside, What I'm getting is confused by the fact that Muslim women have bought into the idea that they are so alluring that they must be hidden entirely form view.

They're the equivalent of the guys demonstrating outside the abortion clinics--not the same thing as the guys who shoot abortionists.

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The thing is the terrorists are a small subset of the KKK.

Just like terrorists are a small subset of both Hamas AND Hezbollah.

Your double standards are showing.

No--like the terrorists are a subset of Palestinians.

Hamas and Hezbollah are all either shooters or people supporting shooters.

 

[untermensche]

Hezbollah was conceived by Muslim clerics and funded by Iran after the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982, and was primarily formed to offer resistance to the Israeli occupation.

Described as a "state within a state", Hezbollah has grown to an organization with seats in the Lebanese government, a radio and a satellite TV station, social services and large-scale military deployment of fighters beyond Lebanon's borders. Hezbollah is part of the March 8 Alliance within Lebanon, in opposition to the March 14 Alliance. Hezbollah maintains strong support among Lebanon's Shi'a population, while Sunnis have disagreed with the group's agenda. Following the end of the Israeli occupation of South Lebanon in 2000, its military strength grew significantly, such that its paramilitary wing is considered more powerful than the Lebanese Army. Hezbollah receives military training, weapons, and financial support from Iran, and political support from Syria. Hezbollah also fought against Israel in the 2006 Lebanon War.

Hezbollah organizes an extensive social development program and runs hospitals, news services, educational facilities, and encouragement of Nikah mut‘ah. One of its established institutions, Jihad Al Binna's Reconstruction Campaign, is responsible for numerous economic and infrastructure development projects in Lebanon. Hezbollah has set up a Martyr's Institute (Al-Shahid Social Association), which guarantees to provide living and education expenses "for the families of fighters who die" in battle. An IRIN news report of the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs noted:

Hezbollah along with Amal is one of two major political parties in Lebanon that represent the Shiite Muslims. Unlike Amal, whose support is predominantly in the South of the country, Hezbollah maintains broad based support in all three areas of Lebanon with a majority Shia Muslim population: in the South, in Beirut and its surrounding area, and in the northern Beqaa valley and Hirmil region. It holds 14 of the 128 seats in the Parliament of Lebanon and is a member of the Resistance and Development Bloc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah

To claim that "Hezbollah are all either shooters or people supporting shooters" is pure ignorance.

 

[KeepTalking]

So those guys who go out and put on bed sheets with eye slits are doing so out of pride and patriotism? They are not hiding from the fact that they support what atrocities you call a small percentage of them do in their name?

Wear a mask. Be a coward. If Daesh person's can't stand full bearded in front of a camera are they patriots, heros, or scared that if they were actually known they'd be brought to justice by their neighbors toot sweet?

As an aside, What I'm getting is confused by the fact that Muslim women have bought into the idea that they are so alluring that they must be hidden entirely form view.

They're the equivalent of the guys demonstrating outside the abortion clinics--not the same thing as the guys who shoot abortionists.

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The thing is the terrorists are a small subset of the KKK.

Just like terrorists are a small subset of both Hamas AND Hezbollah.

Your double standards are showing.

No--like the terrorists are a subset of Palestinians.

Hamas and Hezbollah are all either shooters or people supporting shooters.

And the KKK are either lynchers, or people supporting lynchers.

 

[ksen]

The bombs are dropped intentionally.

If they are dropped in an illegal and immoral endeavor then it is terrorism.

If Poland drops bombs on the invading German Army and some German civilians are killed then that is not terrorism.

We justify things done in self defense that are not justified in blatant acts of aggression.

Of course they're dropped intentionally. What matters is why. If the anticipated gain is to terrify by intentionally inflicting death upon the innocent, that's one thing, but targeting enemy combatants while unfortunately and incidentally killing innocent people in the process is another thing entirely.

The condition of legality is irrelevant, but the condition of morality isn't; however, terrorism implying immorality doesn't mean immorality implies terrorism, so even if by chance the act of bombing was both illegal and immoral, then it's still not necessarily terrorism, as an act can be both wrong and not satisfy the conditions of terrorism.

"shock and awe" not terrorism

 

[Colonel Sanders]

Interesting that the right-wing is having all sorts of flatulent issues with the Democrats not calling the attack based on Islamic Extremism. They seem to think that calling it that changes the game and all of a sudden we know the root cause, the Qu'ran and therefore the solution is obviously... well... they haven't gotten past there other than "We need to do more" and Obama's policies have failed America. This from the same party who was in the White House when 3000 people were murdered while the Admin worried of "rogue nations" and missile defense shield.

Regardless, the Republican Solution to terrorism is clearly:

1) Call it Islamic Extremism
2) ...
3) Victory over terrorism

It is kind of lame to not refer to the phenomenon for what it is. It is Muslims committing acts of terror in the name of the religion of Islam. But you're right, it's not all that important. Unless you're talking about motherfuckin' Freedom Fries, that is... God, I can't believe they actually did that. It's like the nation went out and got super drunk one night and pissed its pants in front of the neighbors. So embarrassing.

Also though, keep in mind that 9/11 was nothing compared to Benghazi.