Sudan Massacre

[TSwizzle]

The wanton slaughter in Sudan seems to have reached new heights, blood shed that is visible from space apparently.

The leader of Sudan's paramilitary Rapid Support Forces (RSF) has declared an investigation into what he called violations committed by his soldiers during the capture of el-Fasher. The announcement by Gen Mohamed Hamdan Dagalo, known as Hemedti, came after escalating reports of civilian killings following the RSF takeover of the city in the Darfur region on Sunday. The RSF leader spoke after international outrage about reports of mass killings in el-Fasher, apparently documented by his paramilitary fighters in social media videos. BBC Verify has analysed the footage confirming that they show the RSF soldiers executing a number of unarmed people in the city. The UN Security Council is holding an emergency session on Sudan, which is in its third year of civil war between the army and the paramilitary fighters. British Foreign Office Minister Stephen Doughty said the UK had called the meeting as the "scale of suffering is unconscionable, often based on ethnicity, women and girls facing sexual and gender-based violence, and there is evidence mounting of defenceless civilians being executed and tortured".

BBC

 

[Gospel]

Just a bunch of Arabs doing what they learned from the “civilized world.” And don’t come at me with “violence is just part of human history”, this isn’t simply that. What’s happening here is the same colonial logic, in Arab uniforms.

 

[TSwizzle]

Just a bunch of Arabs doing what they learned from the “civilized world.”

Eh?

And don’t come at me with “violence is just part of human history”, this isn’t simply that. What’s happening here is the same colonial logic, in Arab uniforms.

What?!

 

[Gospel]

Just a bunch of Arabs doing what they learned from the “civilized world.”

Eh?

And don’t come at me with “violence is just part of human history”, this isn’t simply that. What’s happening here is the same colonial logic, in Arab uniforms.

What?!

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[steve_bank]

I listened to a BBC report with interviews lasr night.

Someone who was part of the South Sudan independence fight and who served as a foreign minister in the first first government was interviewer.

He is is not happy with the government he helped create. Now he is forming another militant group to overthrow the current government and he says if it comes to violence so be it.

It never ends. I am tired of hearing it all due to 'the west'. Islam startedwith violence, forced conversion and conquests.

Shaka Zulu conquered tribes having nothing to with the west.

Africa to a large degree is tribal. It plays out in Nigeria. Rwanda.

After the Brits left India eventually India built on the infrastructure the Brits left behind and developed a democracy and economy.

Yemen is a proxy war between Iran and Saudi Arabia, Persian verses Arab,.

 

[Derec]

Just a bunch of Arabs doing what they learned from the “civilized world.”

Eh?

And don’t come at me with “violence is just part of human history”, this isn’t simply that. What’s happening here is the same colonial logic, in Arab uniforms.

What?!

Gospel always blames those of European descent for every ill in the World.
Even when it's Arab Sudanese fighting against black Sudanese while being funded by the UAE.

 

[Emily Lake]

Just a bunch of Arabs doing what they learned from the “civilized world.”

Wait, what?

Are we just gonna gloss over the whole cradle of civilization, oldest established society known to man, with millennia of conquest, slavery, and violence?

I mean... Arabs have been doing this pretty much since Arabs have been a thing. So have Mongols and Vikings and such.

 

[Tigers!]

Just a bunch of Arabs doing what they learned from the “civilized world.” And don’t come at me with “violence is just part of human history”, this isn’t simply that. What’s happening here is the same colonial logic, in Arab uniforms.

The Arabs were fighting each other long before Mohammed ever arrived. They did not learn it from anyone else. All self-taught, just like everybody else.

Our favourite pastime is fighting each other.

 

[Tigers!]

I am glad that perhaps we can drag our attention from Gaza for a second to see just waht else is happening around us.

Sudan
Cameroons
Congo
Mymanmar
Horn of Africa
Nigeria
The list goes on.

Trouble is when it is non-whites killing non-whites so many do not seem to care.

 

[TSwizzle]

I am glad that perhaps we can drag our attention from Gaza for a second to see just waht else is happening around us.

I’m afraid not Tigers! You see, unless it is the joooos that are the perceived villains then the nose piercing student types don’t give a shit about what is going on elsewhere.

Trouble is when it is non-whites killing non-whites so many do not seem to care.

Indeed, they don’t give a shit about darkies killing each other, particularly when those darkies are Christian darkies.

 

[ZiprHead]

I am glad that perhaps we can drag our attention from Gaza for a second to see just waht else is happening around us.

I’m afraid not Tigers! You see, unless it is the joooos that are the perceived villains then the nose piercing student types don’t give a shit about what is going on elsewhere.

Trouble is when it is non-whites killing non-whites so many do not seem to care.

Indeed, they don’t give a shit about darkies killing each other, particularly when those darkies are Christian darkies.

Is the US supplying the weapons being used the way they are in Israel?

 

[Tigers!]

The UAE has been supplying the RSF in Sudan with many weapons.
Granted not aerial 500kg bombs, but weapons enough to cause so many causalties.

 

[Gospel]

How I went about making my argument was wrong. What I'm trying to say isn't. Ethnic cleansing isn’t unique to Europe or colonialism. Civilizations have been eliminating or relocating populations based on identity since the earliest empires, Assyrian deportations, Chinese frontier purges, Mongol massacres, and Ottoman relocations all fit the pattern. What changed with Europe wasn’t the idea but the infrastructure, modern states turned ethnic dominance into formal policy, justified by race science and nationalism rather than raw conquest.

The massacres in Sudan differ from Mongol or early Ottoman atrocities in motive and structure. The Mongols’ violence was a military strategy to enforce surrender, not ethnic purity. The Ottomans began as conquerors too, but by their decline were already showing the modern and learned logic of homogenizing populations, culminating in the Armenian Genocide.

What’s happening in Sudan today ain't a god damn conquest, it’s internal ethnic cleansing. It’s about erasing specific groups, not expanding rule. The pattern of mass killing repeats through history, but the ideology behind it has evolved, from imperial dominance to ethnic purification.

 

[Gospel]

Gospel always blames those of European descent

No, I don’t, that’s just not true. It’s not my fault history doesn’t always make Europeans look great. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Ya know, like when Texas was ‘sized’ under false pretenses. Me stating a fact isn’t the same as accusing every single person from an particular side of this rock of personally doing it. That's just ridiculous. You weren’t even alive back then, so I really don’t get why you’re rushing to defend people who aren’t you.

 

[Elixir]

You weren’t even alive back then, so I really don’t get why you’re rushing to defend people who aren’t you.

He thinks they looked like him?
Just a guess.

 

[Gospel]

Just a bunch of Arabs doing what they learned from the “civilized world.” And don’t come at me with “violence is just part of human history”, this isn’t simply that. What’s happening here is the same colonial logic, in Arab uniforms.

The Arabs were fighting each other long before Mohammed ever arrived. They did not learn it from anyone else. All self-taught, just like everybody else.

Our favourite pastime is fighting each other.

Great, if what’s happening in Sudan has supposedly been going on ‘forever,’ then you should be able to name an empire that completely wiped out everyone for being a specific "race" in the lands they conquered. I’m sure there would be plenty of examples if that were true.

The reality is that pre-modern empires absolutely conquered, killed, and displaced people, but that’s not the same as modern ethnic cleansing. Ancient and medieval powers didn’t exterminate entire populations simply for being the ‘wrong race’ the way we define race (a European standard btw) today. Their violence was usually tied to resistance, tribute, or power, not to erase specific groups from existence. It didn't matter to them who resisted FFS.

 

[Gospel]

Indeed, they don’t give a shit about darkies killing each other, particularly when those darkies are Christian darkies.

Muslim darkies are being killed too.

 

[TSwizzle]

Indeed, they don’t give a shit about darkies killing each other, particularly when those darkies are Christian darkies.

Muslim darkies are being killed too.

They aren't being killed by jooooos though.

 

[Gospel]

Indeed, they don’t give a shit about darkies killing each other, particularly when those darkies are Christian darkies.

Muslim darkies are being killed too.

They aren't being killed by jooooos though.

Does that make the killings better to you? I don't get why you're saying this.

 

[Derec]

No, I don’t, that’s just not true. It’s not my fault history doesn’t always make Europeans look great. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You are certainly grading Europeans on a different scale.

Ya know, like when Texas was ‘sized’ under false pretenses. Me stating a fact isn’t the same as accusing every single person from an particular side of this rock of personally doing it. That's just ridiculous.

And African or Asian or American Indian cultures never "sized"[sic] territory under false pretenses?

You weren’t even alive back then, so I really don’t get why you’re rushing to defend people who aren’t you.

Neither are the cultures for whose sins you always blame Europeans "you".