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    Both the Israelis and the Palestinians suck

    I haven't. And there is very simple reason for that - I'm a secular jew. As many of israeli jews. Does it mean that they don't identify themselves as jews? Of course not. They make Jewish wedding (chuppah), circumcision, celebrate jewish holidays etc. All what is called a jewish tradition. And...
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    Both the Israelis and the Palestinians suck

    Sorry but arguments like "I know" don't impress me. As well as the substitute of "jews" by "secular minded Jews". It doesn't work this way. Jews are a people and not a group of specifically minded people. I presented you data and it doesn't matter that you don't like it. And you again present an...
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    Both the Israelis and the Palestinians suck

    Not correct. One of my preconditions is "Are they ready to build their country and defend it?". Palestinians don't demonstrate will to build their state but rather to destroy jewish one. Until it is so my answer is "no". Anyway it's only hypothetical because palestinians already are in Palestine...
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    Both the Israelis and the Palestinians suck

    In this case I agree with you. The postwar shock is over (may be excluding Germany) and Europe is the same Europe.. The disgusting "modern society" is on its way to nowhere..
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    Both the Israelis and the Palestinians suck

    Oh, I almost forgot about my "Great Teacher" from Sweden. How to Survive as a Jew in Sweden At one point I glanced around our compartment: there were four other people there, four adults witnessing a single mother and her five-year-old child being attacked by a grown man. They did nothing. I...
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    Both the Israelis and the Palestinians suck

    Anti-Semitism forcing Jews out of France, says Israel Around 3,200 people left last year, a 63% jump when compared to 2012. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27018606 Europe's Jews fear being recognized as such Survey finds that rise in anti-Semitism prevents Jews from wearing traditional...
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    Both the Israelis and the Palestinians suck

    Do those Methodists consider themselves as a people? Have they a history as a people? Do they want be a people living in their own country? Are they ready to build their country and defend it? If all answers are "yes" my answer definitely is "yes". And it doesn't metter that I have no idea who...
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    Both the Israelis and the Palestinians suck

    My "reason"? Three killed teenagers.. It's very unfortunate I cannot use some appropriate expressions from my native language..
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    Both the Israelis and the Palestinians suck

    For you reasons don't matter? OK, I got it.
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    Both the Israelis and the Palestinians suck

    You forgot to point out why it was done: "the building was in response to the Palestinian killing of three teenagers last month". If the buildings are illegal they will be soon removed by israeli authority.
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    Both the Israelis and the Palestinians suck

    For palestinians the question is why stop fighting, for jews - why start fighting.
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    Both the Israelis and the Palestinians suck

    It's not about land, it's about jewish state.
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    Both the Israelis and the Palestinians suck

    I don't see any chances for any solution in the foreseeable future.
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    Both the Israelis and the Palestinians suck

    The only place where "some jews" can defend themselves is Israel. And you are very unhappy with it. Not only you of course. Multiple repeating of your BS aka "disagreement" doesn't make it more sensible.
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    Both the Israelis and the Palestinians suck

    "ignorance" "brutal oppression" "theft" "It wants to oppress people and steal" is nothing to do with criticism. It's not about "the Israeli government", it's about state of Israel and of course about its people. It's not expression of disagreement but expression of hatred.
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    Both the Israelis and the Palestinians suck

    I'm aware there are a lot of people who are very upset by the fact that today jews can defend themself. For you it is very hard to accept that but you have to live with it.
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    Both the Israelis and the Palestinians suck

    You constantly confuse nationality and religion. Do you actually understand what you are speaking about? Jewish and democratic state. Just try be a little bit correct. Muslims have plenty countries to live. Jews have only one. No, it isn't. It is a fact. Just try to live with it. As long as...
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    What should Israel do?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel#Birth_rate
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    Both the Israelis and the Palestinians suck

    What you are stunning so much? That it is amoral to suppress other religion? Or for you it is so unexpectedly that in Israel there is no precedence of one religion over another? I think it is you who should explain your strange comment. Let's say it a little bit different: if arabs recognize...
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    Both the Israelis and the Palestinians suck

    Not only silly but also amoral. And this is why Israel doesn't do it. So you think that removing David star from the israeli flag resolves the conflict? OK, I got it. What did you say about idiots? BTW muslims also do circumcision. Does it mean that you prefer circumcised islamic penises to...
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