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Please do read when you have a chance, I would like to have your input.

If I were part of an advanced (and peaceful) extraterrestrial intelligence, I would certainly want to keep an eye on us for very obvious reasons. :sadcheer:

Veering off the precise topic for a moment, I do not find the zoo hypothesis obviously absurd. After all, we hear again and again about the Fermi paradox. Scientists and philosophers repeatedly point out that given the antiquity of the universe, and given that there is nothing special about our...

The point is here we have scientific data and analysis, and not anecdotal reports, like someone freaking out over a space ship in the sky that turns out actually to be Venus. I should think Steve would appreciate that.

From the second paper: Note that this is not something being discussed on Coast to Coast with Art Bell or whoever does it now. This also bears on the philosophy of science thread. We don’t know if these things were artificial, but as the first paper points out, artificial objects in orbit...

Here is the second paper. Such things likely would show up today, I must assume given the swarm of stuff orbiting the earth, but the main thing here is these things appeared before the start of the space age.

It is not a puff piece, it is an opinion piece. By a Muslim writer who describes the exhaustion and humiliation that Muslims face from bigots. Of course that means nothing to you.

Not sure why the roll eyes from Elixir and the snark from others. I am not making any claims of anything, and nor are the authors. I do put some weight when an astrophysicist finds this paper highly intriguing. The papers themselves are peer-reviewed and published in reputable journals. So...

That is weird, but the second author is an astronomer and physicist who specializes in these sorts of things. Maybe you’d like to read the papers and comment on them?

Here is one of the papers, in Nature.

Here is an article at space.com on this subject. Happily, it includes links to the two papers in question.

Once again …

That’s nice. This thread has nothing to do with any of that.

I’ve already answered this question. Read what I wrote and read the linked material, including from an astrophysicist. Bottom line: the data provides possible evidence that there may have been artificial structures in orbit over the earth in the early 50s, before Sputnik. Nobody suggests that...

This is a philosophical branch known as aesthetics.

Plato’s philosophy of art, and later reactions to it, up to the modern day.

Picasso also believed art should engage with social concerns, hence Guernica among others. This is art philosophy.

Picasso and Braque attempted to do for form more or less what the impressionists did for light. They were motivated by Cezanne’s experiments in flattening the picture plane and simplifying forms. All of this is philosophical, pondering what a picture is and what it is supposed to do. The general...

Of course there is a whole philosophy of art. See Heidegger for example. The philosophy of art goes back to antiquity. Socrates and Plato. In the 19th century the philosophy of art gained new ground with the arrival of the impressionists and post-impressionists, who challenged the very...