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bilby said:
peacegirl said:
bilby said:
The smart move would be to recognize that you are wrong, when your errors are detailed for you along with ways in which you can confirm for yourself that they are errors; And to change your position so that you are not wrong anymore.

For example, you could say "OK, I am convinced; Real time vision is indeed impossible, and I shall stop claiming that it occurs".
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No bilby, because he wasn't wrong.
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He?

I didn't mention any 'he'. I am talking about YOU.
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I'm speaking for him, and I will continue to speak on his behalf. And it's not a matter of faith, either, just because he was my father.
bilby said:
peacegirl said:
You think he was, which is why you believe you have the right to act disrespectfully.
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Respect must be earned. We all have the right to act disrespectfully to those who beclown themselves.
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Respect does not need to be earned. We may admire someone's accomplishments, but this does not mean they are deserving of more respect than others.
 
bilby said:
peacegirl said:
I've got a pretty good track record.
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Oh, so you ARE taking the piss.
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I guess so if you say so.
steve_bank said:
steve_bank said:
Pg
NO, I'm not convinced that aluminum is inert and can cause no problems down the road.
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That is nit the questio
Do you understand that the amount of aluminum from vaccines is inconsequential compared to other sources of aluminum in our binderies? Along with microplastics we all have aluminum.

Whether it is toxic or not is another question.

Aluminum from vaccines is irrelevant compared to other sources

Do yu understand?
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Pg ????
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Oh really? I don't know if it's true that aluminum from vaccines is irrelevant compared to other sources. There is a lot of ambiguity.

 
A doctor’s take on giving vitamin K to newborns.

 
peacegirl said:
bilby said:
peacegirl said:
I've got a pretty good track record.
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Oh, so you ARE taking the piss.
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I don't see it as a joke.
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You speak of a track record... but you have no track record. You have no findings, no research, not attempt at either. No experience in the field at all. You position on the subject is based on your unqualified opinion which views more like an agenda.

At best, you are an anti-vaxxer video aggregator. You claim to be uncertain, yet you exclusively post only one side of ht argument that aims to discredit nearly the entire field of pediatricians and doctors.
 
bilby said:
Loren Pechtel said:
Note that some stainless steel is not noticeably magnetic.
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Note that any steel that is noticably magnetic is NOT stainless steel, even if it is marketed as such.

A fridge magnet will not stick to stainless steel, and this fact was used by my boss back in the day when I worked for a glazing company - incoming loads of stainless steel balustrades for fabrication would be tested with a magnet, and could thereby be rejected without even unloading them from the truck, saving a lot of QA effort and money. Back in the '80s, about half of the purported stainless steel arriving in the UK from China was cheaper alloys masquerading as stainless.

Very little of the steel found in kitchens (whether in pots and pans, or in flatware*) is actual stainless steel.






* Knives, forks, and spoons are flatware. "Cutlery" is steel implements with a tempered cutting edge, such as knives, scissors, swords, shears, etc.; A spoon or fork is NOT cutlery.
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Interesting.
 
peacegirl said:
Playball40 said:
peacegirl said:
Jimmy Higgins said:
peacegirl said:
steve_bank said:
I am concerned that if I sail towards the horizon I will fall off the end of the Earth.

I know what science says about a spherical Earth, bit I am am not blabbing nonsense, just voicing my concern.
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How can you use this as a comparison when this has nothing to do with an argument that has not been proven to be 100% true?
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Not much can be said to have been proven 100% true. You are creating a mythical, unattainable standard in order to create a gap to justify letting children get sick.
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You're still not getting my point. What about the children who die from a vaccine or are permanently damaged? If it's an unattainable standard, would they be told that there is a small risk so they could make an informed decision, or would they be told that they should get the vaccine because it outweighs the risks? What if that child turned out to be the one harmed? Would they be told that they were just one of the unlucky ones and ended up as collateral damage for the greater good? :confused2: Do you think that would satisfy the parents who are now grieving? How would you feel if you were the one who convinced the parents to get their child vaccinated? Please be honest. All I'm saying is that honesty is the best policy, and if there is a risk, however small, it's not up to the government to tell a parent what to do for that very reason. Whether all the diseases will come back with a vengeance is still unknown, especially in first-world countries. I am the first to admit I really don't know the answer, but neither does anyone at this name of the game.
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No vaccine is administered without a information sheet being provided and often must be SIGNED first. So your "concerns" are unfounded and false. The government has NEVER required you to give your child a vaccine and you know it. You've been reminded of that repeatedly so I have to assume that, by continuing to make this argument, your just a troll.
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It's just a formality. People are not expected to read it carefully. They are expected to sign the dotted line. When you're already at the doctor's, there is a certain amount of intimidation just by the doctor's presence. I cannot imagine someone reading the paper, which takes time, and then telling the doctor they don't want the vaccine. He'd look at you like you were off your rocker, and believe me, he would try to convince you to get it because the benefits would outweigh the risks. The pressure to get the jab would be overwhelming, and at that point, the information sheet might as well have been thrown in the garbage.
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Oh bullshit. I've raised six children and never ONCE did I feel PRESSURE from their pediatrician. Why can't you just admit you're LYING. There is NO GOVT MANDATE to get a vaccine. Not one.
 
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Jimmy Higgins said:
... yet you exclusively post only one side of ht argument that aims to discredit nearly the entire field of pediatricians and doctors.
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And those things posted are often blatant falsehoods or corruptions for cash money. Take for example that crazy video from that website where the doctor said nanobots would be in the covid vaccine and that moderna would be barcoding our forearms. That crazy doctor also kept pronouncing luciferase like Lucifer-ase. It was a clear clarion call to End Times folks and Revelation: i.e. the mark of the bast and also blatantly false. We all know from having the vaccine that it was false.
 
Don2 (Don1 Revised) said:
Written to peacegirl:
Jimmy Higgins said:
... yet you exclusively post only one side of ht argument that aims to discredit nearly the entire field of pediatricians and doctors.
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And those things posted are often blatant falsehoods or corruptions for cash money. Take for example that crazy video from that website where the doctor said nanobots would be in the covid vaccine and that moderna would be barcoding our forearms. That crazy doctor also kept pronouncing luciferase like Lucifer-ase. It was a clear clarion call to End Times folks and Revelation: i.e. the mark of the bast and also blatantly false. We all know from having the vaccine that it was false.
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She actually posted a video like this???

I don’t view videos. If she posted a video like this it just shows she is more off her rocker than I thought.
 
Playball40 said:
peacegirl said:
Playball40 said:
peacegirl said:
Jimmy Higgins said:
peacegirl said:
steve_bank said:
I am concerned that if I sail towards the horizon I will fall off the end of the Earth.

I know what science says about a spherical Earth, bit I am am not blabbing nonsense, just voicing my concern.
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How can you use this as a comparison when this has nothing to do with an argument that has not been proven to be 100% true?
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Not much can be said to have been proven 100% true. You are creating a mythical, unattainable standard in order to create a gap to justify letting children get sick.
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You're still not getting my point. What about the children who die from a vaccine or are permanently damaged? If it's an unattainable standard, would they be told that there is a small risk so they could make an informed decision, or would they be told that they should get the vaccine because it outweighs the risks? What if that child turned out to be the one harmed? Would they be told that they were just one of the unlucky ones and ended up as collateral damage for the greater good? :confused2: Do you think that would satisfy the parents who are now grieving? How would you feel if you were the one who convinced the parents to get their child vaccinated? Please be honest. All I'm saying is that honesty is the best policy, and if there is a risk, however small, it's not up to the government to tell a parent what to do for that very reason. Whether all the diseases will come back with a vengeance is still unknown, especially in first-world countries. I am the first to admit I really don't know the answer, but neither does anyone at this name of the game.
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No vaccine is administered without a information sheet being provided and often must be SIGNED first. So your "concerns" are unfounded and false. The government has NEVER required you to give your child a vaccine and you know it. You've been reminded of that repeatedly so I have to assume that, by continuing to make this argument, your just a troll.
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It's just a formality. People are not expected to read it carefully. They are expected to sign the dotted line. When you're already at the doctor's, there is a certain amount of intimidation just by the doctor's presence. I cannot imagine someone reading the paper, which takes time, and then telling the doctor they don't want the vaccine. He'd look at you like you were off your rocker, and believe me, he would try to convince you to get it because the benefits would outweigh the risks. The pressure to get the jab would be overwhelming, and at that point, the information sheet might as well have been thrown in the garbage.
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Oh bullshit. I've raised six children and never ONCE did I feel PRESSURE from their pediatrician. Why can't you just admit you're LYING. There is NO GOVT MANDATE to get a vaccine. Not one.
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I never said the government will force anyone to get their children vaccinated, but there are consequences that give parents no choice if they work and can't leave their kids home alone. Moreover, it appears people do not read the inserts carefully when they come into the office because they've already committed to getting the vaccine. It's like the formality when you're getting married. The preacher says: Speak Now Or Forever Hold Your Peace. Do you think anyone is going to object to the marriage while the ceremony is in progress? :oops:
 
peacegirl said:
The preacher says: Speak Now Or Forever Hold Your Peace.
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What the preacher says isn't relevant to what you are saying or sharing. Which are nothing but scare tactics from dubious sources (at best) trying to imply a potential risk that you have repeatedly also said you have no real evidence that there is a risk at all.

In of science, what you have been saying are anecdotes, hearsay, misquotes, and promotion of unverified claims.

All for the goal, you say, to help parents makes the right choices. I'm uncertain how you think anecdotes, hearsay, miquotes, and unverified claims are in any way useful for making a choice.
 
pood said:
Don2 (Don1 Revised) said:
Written to peacegirl:
Jimmy Higgins said:
... yet you exclusively post only one side of ht argument that aims to discredit nearly the entire field of pediatricians and doctors.
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And those things posted are often blatant falsehoods or corruptions for cash money. Take for example that crazy video from that website where the doctor said nanobots would be in the covid vaccine and that moderna would be barcoding our forearms. That crazy doctor also kept pronouncing luciferase like Lucifer-ase. It was a clear clarion call to End Times folks and Revelation: i.e. the mark of the bast and also blatantly false. We all know from having the vaccine that it was false.
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She actually posted a video like this???

I don’t view videos. If she posted a video like this it just shows she is more off her rocker than I thought.
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I posted it but it comes from that childhealthdefense website, the one RFK Jr was heading. These "experts" they are quoting are lunatics. This is like pizzagate level conspiracy stuff.

This one:
Don2 (Don1 Revised)

Post in thread 'Vaccines, Vaccinations Discussions'

Starring Dr Carrie Madej:
hi.childrenshealthdefense.org

The Battle for Humanity - Children's Health Defense Hawai`i Chapter

Video featuring Dr. Carrie Madej discussing COVID-19 Vaccine safety and efficacy, mandates, DNA, mRNA, control of humanity via technology by technocracy
hi.childrenshealthdefense.org hi.childrenshealthdefense.org

The vials look demonic.

Refers to here:
stopworldcontrol.com

Vaccines insert nanobots in our bodies, turning us into HUMAN 2.0, says Dr. Madej

Big Tech collaborates with Big Pharma to create vaccines that inject nanotechnology into humans, starting the process of transhumanism, says Dr. Madej
stopworldcontrol.com stopworldcontrol.com

mRNA Vaccines alter human DNA and start transhumanism
World renowned medical expert Dr Carrie Madej reveals how Big Tech collaborates with Big Pharma to introduce technologies in new vaccines that alter our DNA and turn us into hybrids. The goal is to end humanity as we know it, and start the process of transhumanism: HUMAN 2.0

WATCH NOW!

These people are fucking lunatics.
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Video makes it look like a forearm barcode...the doctor is talking about luciferase which is a thing in biotech...but making it sounds like Lucifer-ase. The video makes it look like you get a barcode on your forearm, but really neither of these were a thing.

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Nanobots:
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The site also mentions chemtrails.

Speaking of which, I posted a couple of wackadoo posts from the mother of the child who died and claims it was caused by a vaccine. These were from her facebook page. One of them was about chemtrails. Clearly, the poor mother is completely brainwashed by these charlatans.
 
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peacegirl said:
This study seems to suggest that an influenza vaccine may prevent hospitalization in those with diabetes.

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Seems to suggest that it may?

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In conclusion, the present systematic review and meta-analysis shows that: 1) influenza is associated with more severe complications in diabetic versus not diabetic individuals and 2) influenza vaccination is effective in preventing clinically relevant outcomes in adults with DM. The identification of patients with diabetes as the target of vaccination campaigns for influenza appears to be justified by available clinical evidence.
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Curious why you decided to share this March 2023 paper all of a sudden.
 
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