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Let's talk about the problems in Australia for a change!

I once wanted to visit Costa Rica for two reasons, the fact that the country has no military and that a third or maybe it's a forth, is not ever supposed to be developed. I even wanted to move there, but Mr. Sohy wouldn't. We had our passports and had planned the trip, which was going to be related to his work, but it was canceled at the last moment. I've been to Canada, Mexico and the Caribbean Islands. I love people from other cultures and other countries. I've worked with a delightful Haitian nurse who had to work as an aide before getting her license here. I've worked with many people from Mexico, and one from New Zealand, as well as a few from England in my earlier years as a nurse. I've had neighbors from. Italy, Germany, and Poland when I was growing up and Italian culture is a big part of the area of New Jersey where I grew up. In the South, Black folks are often the majority and I currently have more Black friends than white friends. I love them all. I love black culture, their music, their slang, etc.

So, it seems to me, like it's people from other countries who are making prejudiced remarks about Americans. We have our assholes here, just like any other place. Btw, there is a tiny city in the Atlanta area that is considered the most culturally diverse place in most of the world. It is full of immigrants from all over the world, many of them speak several languages, unlike most of us. If I had stayed in Texas, my Spanish would be greatly improved because you can't be a nurse in a city like San Antonio without being fairly fluent in Spanish.

Let me add that I know lots of people who have traveled the world extensively, including a close friend who lives near me. My neighbor in Indy took an extensive trip to Europe when we were living there. I asked her if the Europeans hated her due to our president. She said no, they felt sorry for her. With age, I no longer enjoy traveling, plus it's expensive and uncomfortable for me. But, that doesn't mean that I don't have some understanding and respect for people from other parts of the world or that I make bigoted remarks about them. I started this thread mostly because so many stereotypes were made about the US by some of our Australian members, so I thought it would be entertaining to point out some of the issues in your own courtly. It was mostly meant to be fun and hopefully for all of us to realize that we are all humans, which sadly are the worst, most destructive animals on the planet. :p
 
Imagine if we describe "Seppos"
You do that and we just might start calling you hoons, kankys or bandana benders. :p Actually, I found a list of about 80 terms that can be used to insult Australians.


Are we silly enough yet?
A hoon is specifically a hooligan in a car. If someone cuts you off in traffic, or does burnouts on the public highway, he is a hoon.

A banana (not bandana) bender is specifically a Queenslander.

I have never heard the word "kankys", and nor as far as I can see has Google - are you sure it's an insult, or even a word?
Yes. I found a long list of about 80 insults for Australians and it explained the meaning of each one, but I was just having fun responding to Patooka's comment about Seppos. So, lighten up!
So what is a kanky? I am not insulted, just interested. I genuinely have never heard the word before, and can't find it online.

Does it mean Drongo? Galah? Derro? Ranga? Dipshit? Crim? Pom? Wowser?

I feel I ought to know. Preferably before I yell it at someone.
Sorry. I spelled it wrong. I should have written Kangy

Kangy​

The word Kangy is a racial slur that has been used historically to degrade and dehumanize australians. The word is still used by some people for this purpose, and it is seen as offensive and hurtful to australians. If you are unsure about whether or not it is appropriate to use the word Kangy, it is best to err on the side of caution and avoid using it in any situation.

Actually, there were so many words on the insult list that I probably simply forgot the word I meant to say. That's all. You really took that post way too seriously. Words don't really bother me either, but I do find it weird when people from other countries refer to Americans as Yanks, since Yankees or Yanks are old term used to describe people from the Northeastern part of the US. Southerners have never been referred to as Yanks. The natives of the Southern US might take that as an insult. Just call us Murkins. And, the reason we use Americans to describe ourselves is because the other countries in America don't have America in their names. I didn't name my country so don't blame me.
Yankees were all of those living north of the Mason Dixon line, siding with the Union/United States of America rather than the Confederacy. Like most easterners, you seem to regard the Midwest as some anonymous flyover place, with special distaste for Indianapolis.
No. I don't. I don't hate Indianapolis other than the traffic, the doctors and the cold winters. The people are nice, until they get behind the wheel of a car. ;) My neighborhood there was racially integrated and the neighbors who I met were all lovely people. I met the biggest, nicest group of atheists there that I've ever known. Actually, there were two groups, but the one called Northern Indiana Atheists etc. was the group we spent more time with by meeting up every Sunday to chat and socialize. The traffic was so bad that I didn't even drive the entire time I was there. I didn't expect that level of traffic in the suburbs. It was as bad as any large city I've driven in when I was younger. It was common for people to run red lights, ignore stop signs and tail gate etc.

Of course, no place is as friendly and racially mixed as where I live now. And to be honest, drivers are getting more obnoxious everywhere., but at least the traffic is tolerable here.

My point was that at least when I was in my 20s and moved to SC, the only time I heard anyone referred to as a yankee, was when someone was from the Northeast. Sure, way back during the Civil War, it was different, but it seemed to have changed by the time I was a young adult. Perhaps it was that common hatred of the so called Coastal liberals. I don't know for sure. But now that I think about it, I never met anyone from the midwest during those years, so I'm not sure how they would have been addressed by some of the people I knew in SC. Plus, I took it all as a. joke when they made fun of my Jersey background. Now, the only time I hear the term Yankee is from someone from another country. Weird.
Indy traffic is indeed a bit crazy. I’ve driven through enough to know which routes I want to take or to avoid. Rarely have I had to ever actually be. Inside Indianapolis, for more than 50 years. In general, I’m not a big city person. Where I am now, I can see nature from my house and a few minutes will take me to a river in one direction, lakes and forest in the other. 20 minutes takes me to farmland and prairie. Very little traffic—for us a traffic jam is about 25 cars/five minute delay. I can walk downtown, to the library or movie theater or bank or post office. There are things I don’t like but it suits us.
I refer to myself as a suburban girl although I have lived in one big city during my 20s, and that was San Antonio, a sprawling mess of traffic, but a rather nice place to live at the time.

I live in the city limits of a small city and I have a very wooded back yard. About 6 years ago, it was all supposed to be developed but for some reason, it never happened so we are hoping it never will as there are many places not far from here that aren't congested and could easily be developed. We are only a few miles from what is now called exurban areas. I think that's defined as being no more than 50 miles from a city, not quite rural, but similar. Jobar lives in such an area, and we still see him from time to time.? We do have a nice little walkable downtown but I'm a bit too far from it and my damn painful feet won't let me walk very far any longer so I just do aerobics 3 times a week.

Anyway, as long as the development never happens, I will enjoy all the beautiful birds that come to our feeders, and the other wildlife as well. I do hate that so many people abandon dogs in the South, or let them roam free as one who thinks of dogs as my favorite people, it makes me cry whenever I see a stray dog or one who is allowed outside unsupervised.

I'm glad. you like where you live. It's nice to have a place where you feel comfortable and where you have friends and good neighbors. Sure, I have the needy one, but I also have some wonderful ones who are never demanding of me. Oh wait. We are off topic again. :D
 
It was mostly meant to be fun and hopefully for all of us to realize that we are all humans, which sadly are the worst, most destructive animals on the planet. :p
I have posted this before. It is worth posting again.

“When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you see why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or partial system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind.”​

— J. Krishnamurti​

 
Australia as an arid land cannot support perpetual population growth.
There is no land, arid or otherwise, that can support perpetual population growth. No planet either. As regional or global limits are approached, life gets less and less pleasant for individuals. There’s nothing unique about Australia that way.

I said Australia because that's the subject of this thread, but it applies to all countries, the whole planet.
 
Imagine if we describe "Seppos"
You do that and we just might start calling you hoons, kankys or bandana benders. :p Actually, I found a list of about 80 terms that can be used to insult Australians.


Are we silly enough yet?
A hoon is specifically a hooligan in a car. If someone cuts you off in traffic, or does burnouts on the public highway, he is a hoon.

A banana (not bandana) bender is specifically a Queenslander.

I have never heard the word "kankys", and nor as far as I can see has Google - are you sure it's an insult, or even a word?
Yes. I found a long list of about 80 insults for Australians and it explained the meaning of each one, but I was just having fun responding to Patooka's comment about Seppos. So, lighten up!
So what is a kanky? I am not insulted, just interested. I genuinely have never heard the word before, and can't find it online.

Does it mean Drongo? Galah? Derro? Ranga? Dipshit? Crim? Pom? Wowser?

I feel I ought to know. Preferably before I yell it at someone.
Sorry. I spelled it wrong. I should have written Kangy

Kangy​

The word Kangy is a racial slur that has been used historically to degrade and dehumanize australians. The word is still used by some people for this purpose, and it is seen as offensive and hurtful to australians. If you are unsure about whether or not it is appropriate to use the word Kangy, it is best to err on the side of caution and avoid using it in any situation.

Actually, there were so many words on the insult list that I probably simply forgot the word I meant to say. That's all. You really took that post way too seriously. Words don't really bother me either, but I do find it weird when people from other countries refer to Americans as Yanks, since Yankees or Yanks are old term used to describe people from the Northeastern part of the US. Southerners have never been referred to as Yanks. The natives of the Southern US might take that as an insult. Just call us Murkins. And, the reason we use Americans to describe ourselves is because the other countries in America don't have America in their names. I didn't name my country so don't blame me.
Yankees were all of those living north of the Mason Dixon line, siding with the Union/United States of America rather than the Confederacy. Like most easterners, you seem to regard the Midwest as some anonymous flyover place, with special distaste for Indianapolis.
None of which matters from an Australian perspective; You yanks like to think of your nation as varied, and of the variations as significant and important, but the reality is that stereotypes about other countries are always simplistic, and frequently out of date, and often almost unrecognisable to the actual inhabitants of the place, so you ain't gonna get nobody else to agree with youse about that.

Probably your failure to understand this is due to the fact that none of you ever leave the USA, and your tendency to think of the rest of the world (if you ever do) as being full of people just like yourselves, only not quite as good. ;)

Of course, there is a grain of truth in most stereotypes, and there are certainly some Americans who really are that self-centred (and you made one President, so there's that, too).
Why did most of the Americans I met in Australia through work fall into that category? You lot seemed to deliberately send them to Oz.
Being world hegemon does that. The English still believe that foreigners all secretly speak and understand English, and are just using their own languages to annoy Englishmen, and to plot in secret and to say rude things about them behind their backs.
You mean that is not true? Another illusion shattered.
 

But, that doesn't mean that I don't have some understanding and respect for people from other parts of the world or that I make bigoted remarks about them. I started this thread mostly because so many stereotypes were made about the US by some of our Australian members, so I thought it would be entertaining to point out some of the issues in your own courtly. It was mostly meant to be fun and hopefully for all of us to realize that we are all humans, which sadly are the worst, most destructive animals on the planet. :p

I am glad you started the thread. I have always enjoyed poking fun at my own kith & kin. And others too.
Concerning the sterotyping of the US by Aussies I am still waiting to have some or all of these sterotypes changed. Let's keep going.
 

Historically, migration is a win-win - the migrants get a better life, and their new country gets a stronger economy, because migrants bring their education and skills with them, and need not be educated at public expense while producing zippo for two decades like native-born citizens do.
Controlled migration is always a win-win.
The losers are the countries from which the migrants come - they lose their most innovative and daring people, and get to keep the lazy and cowardly ones.
I am always uneasy with countries like Australia, UK etc. importing trained/skilled people from 3rd world countries (to use a term that is imprecise). We are taking from those countries the people they will need to help them in the future. We would be better off rolling our own (training our own people)
 
Imagine if we describe "Seppos"
You do that and we just might start calling you hoons, kankys or bandana benders. :p Actually, I found a list of about 80 terms that can be used to insult Australians.


Are we silly enough yet?
A hoon is specifically a hooligan in a car. If someone cuts you off in traffic, or does burnouts on the public highway, he is a hoon.

A banana (not bandana) bender is specifically a Queenslander.

I have never heard the word "kankys", and nor as far as I can see has Google - are you sure it's an insult, or even a word?
Yes. I found a long list of about 80 insults for Australians and it explained the meaning of each one, but I was just having fun responding to Patooka's comment about Seppos. So, lighten up!
So what is a kanky? I am not insulted, just interested. I genuinely have never heard the word before, and can't find it online.

Does it mean Drongo? Galah? Derro? Ranga? Dipshit? Crim? Pom? Wowser?

I feel I ought to know. Preferably before I yell it at someone.
Sorry. I spelled it wrong. I should have written Kangy

Kangy​

The word Kangy is a racial slur that has been used historically to degrade and dehumanize australians. The word is still used by some people for this purpose, and it is seen as offensive and hurtful to australians. If you are unsure about whether or not it is appropriate to use the word Kangy, it is best to err on the side of caution and avoid using it in any situation.

Actually, there were so many words on the insult list that I probably simply forgot the word I meant to say. That's all. You really took that post way too seriously. Words don't really bother me either, but I do find it weird when people from other countries refer to Americans as Yanks, since Yankees or Yanks are old term used to describe people from the Northeastern part of the US. Southerners have never been referred to as Yanks. The natives of the Southern US might take that as an insult. Just call us Murkins. And, the reason we use Americans to describe ourselves is because the other countries in America don't have America in their names. I didn't name my country so don't blame me.
Yankees were all of those living north of the Mason Dixon line, siding with the Union/United States of America rather than the Confederacy. Like most easterners, you seem to regard the Midwest as some anonymous flyover place, with special distaste for Indianapolis.
None of which matters from an Australian perspective; You yanks like to think of your nation as varied, and of the variations as significant and important, but the reality is that stereotypes about other countries are always simplistic, and frequently out of date, and often almost unrecognisable to the actual inhabitants of the place, so you ain't gonna get nobody else to agree with youse about that.

Probably your failure to understand this is due to the fact that none of you ever leave the USA, and your tendency to think of the rest of the world (if you ever do) as being full of people just like yourselves, only not quite as good. ;)

Of course, there is a grain of truth in most stereotypes, and there are certainly some Americans who really are that self-centred (and you made one President, so there's that, too).

Being world hegemon does that. The English still believe that foreigners all secretly speak and understand English, and are just using their own languages to annoy Englishmen, and to plot in secret and to say rude things about them behind their backs.

I bet plenty of Americans feel exactly that way about Spanish speakers in the US.
My response was to Sohy re: the term Yank.

There are lots of Americans who leave the US first travel, including my children Abd a number of my friends. I’ve only been to Canada because that’s as far as I’ve been able to drag my husband. I have personal reservations about spending the amount of money I would like to spend on travel without my husband also wanting to travel or otherwise indulge an interest of his. It’s been frustrating as we have friends who are in similar financial positions who have spent the time and money to travel.

Frankly, I always assumed I would do a lot of travel and had planned to spend a year or two in Europe. Ah, my misspent youth! Spent furthering education, raising kids, tending to various family obligations.
 
Kangaroo is the single common borrow word into English from the once widely distributed Guugu Yimithirr language of northern Queensland. A few generations ago, a common urban legend held that gangurru "originally meant 'I don't know' in Ab----ne", but nope, it was just the local term for the large dark colored versions of the species, and is attested to by one of Cook's own logs, thus among the first Australian words to be preserved in the historical record.

Another interesting fact about Guugu Ymithirr is that before European contact, it was one of just a small handful of global languages that uses cardinal (sun-direction) indexicals rather than somatic (bodily) indexicals for proximate direction giving. So for instance in Guugu Ymithirr, one would likely say something like "take the seat to your south", rather than "take the seat to your left". This made the poor beleaguered language a touch point for debates about the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis among linguists in the 1990s. You could say that some of them became hopping mad.

This solves a problem I read in a S F story many years ago. A lot rested on the ability to tell an alien species which button to push when they didn't have the right/left concept, and there were no visuals.

Thinking about it over the years I couldn't remember how the author solved it.


Historically, migration is a win-win - the migrants get a better life, and their new country gets a stronger economy, because migrants bring their education and skills with them, and need not be educated at public expense while producing zippo for two decades like native-born citizens do.
Controlled migration is always a win-win.
The losers are the countries from which the migrants come - they lose their most innovative and daring people, and get to keep the lazy and cowardly ones.
I am always uneasy with countries like Australia, UK etc. importing trained/skilled people from 3rd world countries (to use a term that is imprecise). We are taking from those countries the people they will need to help them in the future. We would be better off rolling our own (training our own people)

Me too. We should be taking in refugees, and leaving trained and skilled people to build their own country. Of course, sometimes those categories overlap.

And investing in our own youngsters, instead of hijacking the training investment of countries that can't afford to lose it.

I have friends, a doctor and an engineer, who are not allowed to practice in Australia. Too busy trying to make a living to take on the bridging requirements. They're doing OK financially, but there is a lot of knowledge going to waste.
 

Historically, migration is a win-win - the migrants get a better life, and their new country gets a stronger economy, because migrants bring their education and skills with them, and need not be educated at public expense while producing zippo for two decades like native-born citizens do.
Controlled migration is always a win-win.
The losers are the countries from which the migrants come - they lose their most innovative and daring people, and get to keep the lazy and cowardly ones.
I am always uneasy with countries like Australia, UK etc. importing trained/skilled people from 3rd world countries (to use a term that is imprecise). We are taking from those countries the people they will need to help them in the future. We would be better off rolling our own (training our own people)

Australia as an arid land cannot support perpetual population growth.
There is no land, arid or otherwise, that can support perpetual population growth. No planet either. As regional or global limits are approached, life gets less and less pleasant for individuals. There’s nothing unique about Australia that way.
...and fortunately, there's no prospect of any such perpetual population growth, nor is it required for perpetual economic growth.

But that's enough of this DBT hobbyhorse derail - if he wants to talk about population growth, he can resurrect any of a number of earlier pointless threads on the subject.

Yet our government is doing it's very best to maintain growth, practically panicking at the mere thought of the economy stalling or 'stagnating.'

I don't see a point in the foreseeable future where we adopt a steady state economy or put a cap on Australia's population.

''Switzerland will vote this summer on a proposal from the far-right Swiss People’s party (SVP) to limit the country’s population to 10 million.''

So, if it passes, it'll be interesting to see how that policy pans out for the Swiss.
 

Historically, migration is a win-win - the migrants get a better life, and their new country gets a stronger economy, because migrants bring their education and skills with them, and need not be educated at public expense while producing zippo for two decades like native-born citizens do.
Controlled migration is always a win-win.
The losers are the countries from which the migrants come - they lose their most innovative and daring people, and get to keep the lazy and cowardly ones.
I am always uneasy with countries like Australia, UK etc. importing trained/skilled people from 3rd world countries (to use a term that is imprecise). We are taking from those countries the people they will need to help them in the future. We would be better off rolling our own (training our own people)
As an American, I feel the same way. I am in total favor of allowing immigrants here who simply want a better life, especially those who have been persecuted for their religious beliefs or political views. I've known quite a few and I've even helped out one a little bit. We have "stolen" so many doctors from India, a country that likely needs them for their own people, a country that has far more poverty than our own. But, these doctors know they can make far more money here, so they choose to come here. it's a very complicated problem and I certainly don't have the power to change it.

All I know is that people like me piss off the conservatives because I embrace and value cultural diversity. Despite being a strong atheist, I fully support religious freedom as long as the SCS is respected. And, no. People like me are not rare. We may or may not be the current majority, but I honestly don't know. We do not think we are better than the citizens of any other country. I find it a bit ironic that some seem to see Americans through a stereotypical, narrow viewpoint, while denying their own prejudices. They assume that most Americans have never traveled to other countries, while not understanding that while many have, most don't have the time or money to enjoy world wide travel.

Plus, there are other ways of interacting with people from other cultures and countries. What percentage of you have ever come to the US and visited different parts of the country? Who has spent time in our poverty stricken neighborhoods, as much as I have both as either a resident during my young adulthood, or as a home health nurse? Some of you seem to think we are all like our insane, bigoted president or that we are all isolated from those who are from different backgrounds, while nothing could be further from the truth.

Most of us older adults have grandparents or great grandparents who were immigrants from countries all over the world. My husband's grandmother was from Syria and her husband was from Lebanon. His other grandparents were from Lebanon and even my mother in law spoke fluent Arabic. I personally know a dear woman locally who is from Lebanon. My small city is full of immigrants from many countries. My great grandparents were from Ireland, Poland, and Germany. I have no doubt that my father's grandfather was what was commonly referred to as poor white trash, people who the British forced to leave in hopes of getting rid of all the poor, low class citizens. I read about this in a book a few years ago, but I don't make stereotypes about all British people based on the worst in history. Diversity is what makes our lives more interesting.

No country or group of people is without their faults and shortcomings. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool. Anyone who has studied or read extensively about other animals, knows that humans are the worst, most dangerous, destructive animals on the planet. One of my mottos is "My mind is not for sale or rent to any god or government." So no. I don't believe my country is so special. I just want it to be better, as I'm sure you all want the same for your own country.
 
With respect to the OP, it is almost a general rule that any thread involving another nation will eventually become about how dumb and unworldly Americans are. And it's not restricted to IIDB.
 
With respect to the OP, it is almost a general rule that any thread involving another nation will eventually become about how dumb and unworldly Americans are. And it's not restricted to IIDB.
In fairness, we rather invite that sort of attention with our actions in the world.
 
With respect to the OP, it is almost a general rule that any thread involving another nation will eventually become about how dumb and unworldly Americans are. And it's not restricted to IIDB.
In fairness, we rather invite that sort of attention with our actions in the world.
I don't dispute that. In fact I've been critical of the US myself. Especially when it comes to guns, and our pathological notion that might but makes right - particularly among American men.
 

Historically, migration is a win-win - the migrants get a better life, and their new country gets a stronger economy, because migrants bring their education and skills with them, and need not be educated at public expense while producing zippo for two decades like native-born citizens do.
Controlled migration is always a win-win.
The losers are the countries from which the migrants come - they lose their most innovative and daring people, and get to keep the lazy and cowardly ones.
I am always uneasy with countries like Australia, UK etc. importing trained/skilled people from 3rd world countries (to use a term that is imprecise). We are taking from those countries the people they will need to help them in the future. We would be better off rolling our own (training our own people)

Australia as an arid land cannot support perpetual population growth.
There is no land, arid or otherwise, that can support perpetual population growth. No planet either. As regional or global limits are approached, life gets less and less pleasant for individuals. There’s nothing unique about Australia that way.
...and fortunately, there's no prospect of any such perpetual population growth, nor is it required for perpetual economic growth.

But that's enough of this DBT hobbyhorse derail - if he wants to talk about population growth, he can resurrect any of a number of earlier pointless threads on the subject.

Yet our government is doing it's very best to maintain growth, practically panicking at the mere thought of the economy stalling or 'stagnating.'

I don't see a point in the foreseeable future where we adopt a steady state economy or put a cap on Australia's population.
You are (again) conflating population growth with economic growth; And (again) this hobbyhorse error of yours belongs in another thread.
 
this hobbyhorse error of yours
That's no hobby horse, it's mainstream economics, accepted theory, null hypothesis and common knowledge.
The embedded error is rarely acknowledged due to the novelty of population pressures on a global scale. But simple math does disprove any tight correlation between population and productivity, and on a per capita basis I'd venture that it's probably a reverse correlation if any.
We have a lot of excess personnel and simultaneously, untapped capability for productivity. Stupidity and greed are all that impedes the widespread success of HSS as stewards of a green planet.
 
Australia imports problems.

James*, 16, screams as a pack of black-clad teenagers drag him to the ground and stomp on his head while an attacker films on his phone in Sydney's Strathfield Park.
In another video, the gang forces a different 16-year-old into a toilet block and repeatedly punches him while calling him a "f*****" and a "kafir", or nonbeliever. Blood runs down his face as he begs, "I'll do anything."
A third clip shows a boy in a cropped top lying silent on the grass, his hands shielding his face as he is repeatedly stomped on and called a "gay dog", while one attacker shouts "Dawlatul Islam" — Arabic for Islamic State (IS).
"I'll f***ing shoot you, you little dog," one attacker says, before the victim finally emits a single high-pitched cry, and the video cuts out.
The footage is among recordings played in Sydney courts or circulated in chat groups, and obtained by ABC Investigations from court files, victims and members of the public.

It documents a surge of violence against gay and bisexual young people in Sydney at the hands of a resurgent IS terrorist network in the two years before the Bondi attack.
A two-year ABC investigation into the reawakening of IS can reveal the attackers in the videos were linked to the same terrorist network as Naveed and Sajid Akram, the father and son responsible for the Hanukkah massacre that killed 15 people at Bondi Beach in December.
Five teenagers have so far been convicted over the bashings.

Several of them congregated around a radical Bankstown prayer hall, Al Madina Dawah Centre, which was ordered to close after the Bondi shooting.

News

"Queers for Palestine", you gotta laugh.
 


''Switzerland will vote this summer on a proposal from the far-right Swiss People’s party (SVP) to limit the country’s population to 10 million.''

So, if it passes, it'll be interesting to see how that policy pans out for the Swiss.
Yes. What would happen to the poor bunny who is the 10,000,001st Swiss?
 
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Australia imports problems.

James*, 16, screams as a pack of black-clad teenagers drag him to the ground and stomp on his head while an attacker films on his phone in Sydney's Strathfield Park.
In another video, the gang forces a different 16-year-old into a toilet block and repeatedly punches him while calling him a "f*****" and a "kafir", or nonbeliever. Blood runs down his face as he begs, "I'll do anything."
A third clip shows a boy in a cropped top lying silent on the grass, his hands shielding his face as he is repeatedly stomped on and called a "gay dog", while one attacker shouts "Dawlatul Islam" — Arabic for Islamic State (IS).
"I'll f***ing shoot you, you little dog," one attacker says, before the victim finally emits a single high-pitched cry, and the video cuts out.
The footage is among recordings played in Sydney courts or circulated in chat groups, and obtained by ABC Investigations from court files, victims and members of the public.

It documents a surge of violence against gay and bisexual young people in Sydney at the hands of a resurgent IS terrorist network in the two years before the Bondi attack.
A two-year ABC investigation into the reawakening of IS can reveal the attackers in the videos were linked to the same terrorist network as Naveed and Sajid Akram, the father and son responsible for the Hanukkah massacre that killed 15 people at Bondi Beach in December.
Five teenagers have so far been convicted over the bashings.

Several of them congregated around a radical Bankstown prayer hall, Al Madina Dawah Centre, which was ordered to close after the Bondi shooting.

News

"Queers for Palestine", you gotta laugh.
I will merely note that Queers for Palestine originated in US/UK before we decided in our foolishness to start our own local branches.

Assumilation vs. Multiculturalism. Which is better? I have my own opinion.
 
With respect to the OP, it is almost a general rule that any thread involving another nation will eventually become about how dumb and unworldly Americans are. And it's not restricted to IIDB.
In fairness, we rather invite that sort of attention with our actions in the world.
My grandfather served in WW2 in Australia, PNG and the Pacific Islands. He met many Americans.
One day when I was about 8 or 9 I was watching the news on the telly with him.
He suddenly blurted out, with vemon, "Never trust a Yank with money".
"Yes Poppy".
I can't recall exactly what triggered that outburst and I never dared asked him, nanna or mum why he said that.
But 55 years later it is as if he just said it.
 
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